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celtics23 Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:23 PM
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TDPS: Tea Party GOP Debate Embarrassing Propaganda...CNN should be ashamed
 
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 04:25 PM
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1. CNN? The channel that brought us the Rapture Index in the mid-oughts?
They have NO SHAME.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 05:37 PM
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2. David Pakman is completely correct. Objectivity does not mean giving everyone equal time. It means:
~ not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.

Pretending all opinions are equal is just part of infotainment, and terrible journalism. The Tea Party makes a mockery of facts in all they stand for. They don't believe in climate change, or other science they dislike. They call republican ideas, like cap and trade and mandating insurance, socialist. (Personally I agree with them about the mandate, there should be a single payer or at least a public option. But they are right for the wrong reasons. They don't think governments should have anything to do with helping its citizens, but don't have a problem with Big Brother policies.) They don't know that their own taxes - and this from a group that calls themselves a tax revolt - are the lowest they have been in a lifetime. The same people who call themselves teabaggers, caused the debt and deficit by their support of the Bush tax cuts and their support of the Iraq War. Now they scream about it with no sense of irony. The list goes on.

Any truly objective news outlet would treat them as a curiosity at best, not something to be legitimized.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:43 PM
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4. +1 well said.
Lou
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:37 AM
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6. There have been rallies on the left: The US Uncut Movement.
Lots of drama to in the US Uncut movement.. Scores of people attacking Wall Street or the home turf of Wall Street goons.. ( CEO's) Those events get barely 10 seconds, if that.. How can a counter movement to the tea idiots happen if they don't get time..
Packman is right.. The CNN Intro had more of the feel of an extended Gobber political attack ad.. That intro saved the Tea freaks and their corporate backers hundreds of thousands of dollars in ad money, they didn't have to spend.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:17 AM
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7. Exactly true.
The Tea Party is a figment.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:26 PM
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3. I completely agree with what David Pakman's saying.
And I think the co-anchor was just playing devil's advocate.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:57 PM
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5. hey without CNN we wouldn't have Glenn Beck. so far
right wing Fox had to dump him in front of the camera..
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:18 AM
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8. it is not because the tea party is represented on 1000 radio stations and no one shames them, so it
is acceptable.

that's where the tea party came from, the left completely ignoring RW talk radio while it kicked internet ass.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:01 AM
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9. So what are we supposed to do - left wing hate radio?
Talk radio only works for stirring up extreme and hostile emotions. It's not a useful medium to encourage thoughtfulness, because the first thing that happens when you get thoughtful is that you shut the fucking radio up. It's not the content that makes RW radio harmful, it's the emotional tone - we need to solve the problem of why people want angry, hateful bigots ranting out loud in their personal space so much of the time. I find this in "leftists" too, and it baffles me. Whatever the emotional reward is for listening to Rush (remember when many "liberals" listened to Rush too, with the excuse that they needed to know what their opponents were saying?), it just slips past me. I don't get it.

Are you suggesting we revive the Fairness Doctrine? I think we should, but that generally marks me as a fringe progressive kook.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:28 PM
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12. shame local sponsors of the RW stations and universities that do sports on them, picket the stations
an relentlessly expose the coordinated lying and swiftboating in real time, recognize it's importance getting us into this mess, elevate limbaugh to head of the GOP where he belongs (his ratings and personal fortune are irrelevant- he needs to be front and center and exposed).

the dem party is STUPID for not providing a searchable database of teh main talkers transcripts so the swiftboating of their candidates can be challenged BEFORE it hits the MSM as established fact merely because it has been pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week with no one in their face.

there is NO organized opposition the right's best media tool.

legislative fixes like a new fairness doctrine being the remedies of leftists kooks (as also screamed by naive and troll-used progressives) is testament to the effectiveness of unchallenged talk radio's lies about it being absorbed into the mainstream and progressive blogs.

as for progressive radio, you might want to catch some thom hartmann, stephanie miller, randi rhodes, and others who regularly take calls from cons, provide intelligent news, analysis, perspective, and humor. all of them have been able to compete with and beat the big RW talkers when competing on an even playing field in blue areas. the RW has a monopoly, and 'market forces' they worship are not operating 'freely' in most parts of the country re talk radio.
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MNmom Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:05 PM
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10. The media never points out the Republican lies.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:13 PM
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11. Page Socrates
"What is good TV?" he would ask Mr. Parkman and his sidekick (I forget his name).

We would get two completely different answers. Mr. Parkman would answer from the public perspective, where the purpose of a television news channel is to inform the public, while the sidekick would answer from the business perspective, where broadcasting is a business and the purpose is to make money.

Socrates would moderate the discussion in an attempt to reconcile the two ideas. I'm not sure he would be able to do succeed.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:18 PM
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13. Kr...surprised at the inability of David's sidekick to comprehend the larger picture. nt
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:48 PM
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14. This had all the makings of a promo for "The Great Escape!"
Even the music had that serious, intensive drive!

Mitt Romney as "The Early Front Runner"
Rick Perry as "The Newcomer"
Michele Bachmann as "The Firebrand"
Ron Paul as "The Libertarian"
etc.

Kind of sounds like:

Steve McQueen as "The Cooler King"
James Garner as "The Scrounger"
Charles Bronson as "The Tunnel King"
Donald Pleasance as "The Forger"
etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkwmIDx9RwQ

:rofl:

What CNN horseshit! United Artists did it much better in 1963!
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