Women celebrate in Tripoli's Martyrs' square

[Iterate]

Run time: 02:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHyC4FMCEgI   Posted on YouTube: September 02, 2011 By YouTube Member: AlJazeeraEnglish Views on YouTube: 309   Posted on DU: September 02, 2011 By DU Member: Iterate Views on DU: 2367

 
Thousands of women gather in Martyr's square to mark the end of Gaddafi's rule.

It's family night as well. ETA photo:
Al Jazeera's Evan Hill sent us this picture of a traffic jam of cars heading to Martyrs' square to join the celebrations. The lights in the background are Martyrs' square.

[DURHAM D]

1. Thanks for posting.

I just gave it a rec and its still zero.

Amazing - Why would anyone unrec these pics?

[TheWraith]

2. Well, clearly all of those people are western imperialist running dog lackeys!

No true Libyans could possibly be happy about the downfall of their dictator. I'm sure all those photos were taken and distributed by the CIA, flown across the ocean on planes fueled with newly stolen Libyan oil. :sarcasm:

Seriously... I'm glad to see the Libyan people are happy, and I hope that they apply the inventiveness they displayed fighting Ghaddafi to rebuilding their country. :)

[joshcryer]

17. It's not over quite yet but this has been a long time coming for a small minority here.

We believed in the Libyan revolution from day 1, and while many turncoats showed their true colors, we are still here, behind them the whole way. Libya I believe will change the landscape in the middle east forever.

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. a**holes like to unrec

[tabatha]

8. Just jealousy.

And poor losers.

[Dokkie]

3. Oh yea

I bet these women would have been cheering whoever won the war. I bet even more so for the crazy racist crazy rebels who would want nothing more than wipe out all the black Libyans. Then again, i don't blame the women for coming out and acting for the cameras. I spent my the 1st 17yrs of my life living in a country control by brutal dictators and not one day did I wish for the west to send bombs down my city to free me or my family. This is saying a lot because Libyans under Qaddafi enjoyed a far better standard of living, freedom, respect from their govt than what Nigerians got under Abacha or Babangida

Also I can bet a $1 m that the picture above is definitely not Tripoli or anywhere in Libya after the bombing campaign conducted by NATO and its western allies. So yes I unrecced this war propaganda piece

[Iterate]

4. What did they ever do to you personally to earn such depth of hatred?

That, and are you going to carry it for the rest of your life? They're celebrating, in peace, and since they knew Gaddafi better than anyone on DU, I'll take their word that his downfall is worth celebrating.

The picture at first glance appears to be taken from the Al Mahary Hotel(or nearby), and is looking SW towards Martyr's Square along the Kornich, with the harbor and port to the right. You don't owe me anything.

[Amonester]

6. Check Dokkie's profile, Iterate.

His hobby is... Trolling... with a : and a ) :)

Nothing constructive to do, I guess. :(

(I alerted.)

[Dokkie]

9. Damn, I have been outed

Cos we know that if I was really a throll, the 1st thing I would do is announce it in my user profile. The truth is that I am very very skeptical of whatever comes out of this war loving press. They gave us the Indian protest passed off as Libyan protest at Matyr square and at this point every thing I hear from them sounds like the Kuwati incubator story all over again.

Also I seriously doubt that post war Libya night scene is that bright. You could easily mistake that picture for any big city in America. Its filled with dazzling sky scrapers sitting by a beautiful lake and also driving to a protest with your car seems like the behaviour of an American and not a libyan

Alert all you want and I still would not change my hobby to anything but trolling. This is not the 1st time someone tried to shut me up because am not cheerleading this war

[Amonester]

10. You have the right to your opinion, and to say it as often as you want.

But... I don't know about if trolls would announce it in their user profile or not...

trolls are trolls... anything to disrupt, you know?

[Amonester]

12. Allow me to add, how much do you expect anyone will take your opinion seriously

if you openly make public the fact that trolling is your hobby?

IOW, how "young" are you? :shrug:

[Iterate]

13. As a good skeptic you would know that detail is your friend.

It's the hardest thing to fake, and when you have a mass of it, it will wreck any foolish abstraction, stereotype, conspiracy theory, or unfit ideology. Everything is one time, one place, one event.

The downside of it is, you need many history books, not one, and thousands of (preferably) first person accounts, not just one network reporter. If I could listen to a ten hour interview with each of four million adult Libyans, I would. The upside is that I know that there is no such thing as a generic big city, and that 66% of Tripoli residents prefer to use their cars for their personal transport. It's work, but it beats being frustrated and cynical.

[joshcryer]

15. Gaddafi subsidized cars and fuel and they're ubiquitous in Libya.

Note that this still did not prevent a popular uprising.

[Dokkie]

11. Yes

I don't have a problem with people celebrating. What I am worried about is that thousands of people you do not see who are mourning this illegal invasion of their country. The people who now have to live in a destroyed country under the rebel madmen who took it over.

In a normal world I would be rejoicing with them if it wasn't for the fact that I have seen such celebration stagged by Western governments (celebrating the toppling of Saddam Hussein statue) and also the fact that this movement was supported by the british and french govt, the same govts that supported the Nigerian govt when we tried to break away from Nigeria.

So yes, I really really don't want to be fooled again

[Iterate]

14. We're probably within a few weeks

of learning more precisely how popular the revolution has been. We can say with some certainty that for the areas liberated to date, the support is in the 90-95% range. The cities are peaceful and getting back to a normal life. It's time for people to realize that the "rebel madmen" as you call them are in fact simply Libyan civilians who will soon go home. In fact, most of them fought near their homes until recently. I don't know of any significant armed civilian v. civilian conflicts. Remember that most of Tripoli was liberated from inside before any rebel army arrived. They were sweeping streets and setting up checkpoints the next day.

There are nine towns left, with a total population of less than 175,000 out of 6+ million. They aren't critical, but the can't be ignored forever. The only reason they matter is that the remnants of the Gaddafi armies are inside and remain a threat. If those armies surrender, it's over, regardless of any remaining Gaddafi support from civilians.

The destruction is limited to a relatively few areas, mainly Misrata, Brega, and Zawiya. If you want a ray of hope, just look at how quickly those are recovering. Or look at Tarounha, a town of 50,000 near Bani Walid and Tripoli that had some (but probably not majority) Gaddafi support. The FF army entered with little fighting(as the Gaddafi army had fled), then left the city alone and secure.

In other words, either by accident or design, the west supported a popular revolution. Gaddafi tried a "Tienanmen" strategy and it backfired. If western media is driving you crazy (or RT for that matter) dump it and look to the detail and Libyan stories you can find online. You know more and sleep better. No need to be a cheerleader; they aren't asking for that.

[tabatha]

7. You forgot the sarcasm thingy.

[joshcryer]

16. I've noticed that the most positive videos out of Libya from AJE get the most vile...

...responses in existence. Look at the YouTube comments. There's a social study in that comment section alone. I am utterly shocked AJE has not locked comments at this point, but I think they want the video to speak for itself, as it clear has done.

It has riled up the pro-Gaddafi authoritarians to the point of utter glee for me. :)