Police 'anger' over Supercop move (fmr LAPD chief Bill Bratton appointed by UK PM Cameron)

[alp227]

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The Police Federation says officers are angry about David Cameron's decision to consult US "Supercop" Bill Bratton. Asha Tanna reports for Channel 4 News from today's edition; article.

[sabrina 1]

1. Why wouldn't they be? It is pretty insulting to them

for him to invite someone from another country, who probably knows very little about the UK and its problems, to do that job. But we're Global now, and countries don't have any sovereignty anymore.

Maybe we ought to mind our own business right here, and let other countries mind theirs. All this Globalism they are so fond of only benefits the wealthy.

[liberalmike27]

4. Here is an idea

Find out what is wrong,and fix the problem. Unemployment? Provide jobs. Need something to do? Open the recreation centers back up. Ask some folks, sent out opinion surveys, hey just make the f**king situation a little bit better, to where they won't do it again.

But no, the poor are for fighting wars, and filling up your private prisons, right, so some crony can make some money on the misfortune of paupers, same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

We're not that far from it here either--people stealing copper, raiding homes, in home invasions, robberies, and murders are daily occurrences, and suicides are up. While we waste trillions killing foreigners in a war that isn't going to benefit anyone but oil, mineral, and geographic concerns, certainly not Americans, the very same Americans get the crap end of the stick precisely because we're dicking around in places where we shouldn't be. And somewhere down the line, the people we're destroying for oil, will once again, renew the cycle.

Might as well add a bit of truth to this thread. Not a word on the why of it, not at all. But that is the corporate media isn't it, those who profit most because of the massive monies injected into campaigns to elect our politicians. Seeing all of this, why would a population not demonstrate, and riot. How much can you let politicians blow corporations, while they are pooping on your head.

[JDPriestly]

2. Bratton has a strategy that prevents crimes.

Here in LA we now have a graffiti number that we can call. I called it once to report graffiti on the back of a building on major street.

The graffiti was removed (painted over) within 24 hours.

Prompt graffiti removal is just one of the ways that the police can discourage crime especially gang violence. Bratton is very intelligent and will help the British and work with them in the context of their culture. This is just false pride. The British should welcome Bratton's help.

The British have spent far more money on surveillance than even the US has from what I can tell. That surveillance, however, does not prevent the kind of emotional, mob violence that just took place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Bratton

[emilyg]

3. Bratton cleaned up Times Square.

[rizlaplus]

5. PSNI (formerly RUC) in north of Ireland

They could call for advice from the PSNI (formerly RUC) in the north of Ireland. The RUC never had a problem in using baton rounds against men, women and children. Why go to the USA for police advice?

[Enthusiast]

6. I can understand how the police would

feel insulted.

[davey1000]

London Police Feeling Insulted? What about Joe Public?

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When you have been burgled, when you have had your car roof
used as a trampoline and when you have had a plank rammed
through your car windshield THEN you can talk.  In my case
they also looted my garden and sheds. (this in a "low
crime area" ha-ha. It was low crime twenty years ago but
vermin get everywhere)  I put up CCTV and within NINE HOURS
there was a yob (an adult actually) on candid camera.  In
spite of being found with stolen property where he lived all
he got was a telling-off.  Incidentally it was a female PCSO
who caught him, perhaps the old-time-coppers are too old and
tired.
    Somehow I get the feeling that if Bill Bratton was in
charge, letting burglars get away with just a Police Caution
would be a thing of the past.  The trouble is that talk is
cheap and locking up burglars is expensive so the government
likes to use the talking method.  When louts and burglars just
get cautions is it any wonder that things are out of control? 
Incidentally the CCTV wasn't totally pointless as the yob was
arrested at work and sacked on the spot.  Shopkeepers cannot
be expected to employ burglars can they?

An old colleague, sadly no longer with us, summed things up
very well about forty years ago.  "Catching burglars and
locking them up COSTS MONEY; nicking motorists MAKES MONEY. 
You can't really disagree with that can you?

[davey1000]

8. London Police Feeling Insulted? What about Joe Public?

When you have been burgled, when you have had your car roof
used as a trampoline and when you have had a plank rammed
through your car windshield THEN you can talk.  In my case
they also looted my garden and sheds. (this in a "low
crime area" ha-ha. It was low crime twenty years ago but
vermin get everywhere)  I put up CCTV and within NINE HOURS
there was a yob (an adult actually) on candid camera.  In
spite of being found with stolen property where he lived all
he got was a telling-off.  Incidentally it was a female PCSO
who caught him, perhaps the old-time-coppers are too old and
tired.
    Somehow I get the feeling that if Bill Bratton was in
charge, letting burglars get away with just a Police Caution
would be a thing of the past.  The trouble is that talk is
cheap and locking up burglars is expensive so the government
likes to use the talking method.  When louts and burglars just
get cautions is it any wonder that things are out of control? 
Incidentally the CCTV wasn't totally pointless as the yob was
arrested at work and sacked on the spot.  Shopkeepers cannot
be expected to employ burglars can they?

An old colleague, sadly no longer with us, summed things up
very well about forty years ago.  "Catching burglars and
locking them up COSTS MONEY; nicking motorists MAKES MONEY. 
You can't really disagree with that can you?

[blank space]

7. Police Unions are

one of the few unions that trully worry me - In Australia they have forced the resignation / sacking of two Senior cops in as many years.

Whats more - I think if any police force on earth needs some outside oversight it is the UK police - or does the News Of the World scandal not apply since the riots ??