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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 10:01 PM
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US citizens to Obama: No more sacrifices (Al-Jazeera English)
 
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 10:06 PM
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1. I agree - I'm sick of the mega-rich and corps stealing while the rest of us have to sacrifice nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:44 PM
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4. But...`
Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 11:48 PM by butterfly77
a lot of small town America had no problem with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer as long as bush was the president,and they thought they were teaching people in big cities a lesson.

I wonder how many of these people are teabaggers,were any of them on the mall with Beck??? Don't get scared now, didn't you get what you wanted last November???

Did their chickens come home to roost shouldn't we take the advice they kept giving the rest of us during the bush years.? PULL YOURSELVES UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS,we need to stay in Iraq because it is protecting America: WE GOT TO FIGHT THEM OVER THERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE!!

HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN??? sing it for us RED STATE AMERICA!!!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 12:29 AM
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6. A huge % of the U.S. is dumbed down by churches. That's why I blame churches
They're greatly responsible for what's happened in this country.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:33 AM
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7. Mega-churches yes, small liberal churches, not so much
...in the 1980's there was an organized effort with wing nuts to infiltrate and destroy liberal churches. It worked to a degree. This is because liberal churches were addressing things like racism, poverty, and war, which are money makers to elitists who actually believe God loves the rich more and empowering anyone else was a threat to their quivering rationale.

Liberal religion is thoughtful and mostly about social justice. It is not about fear mongering so it can line some gaudy preacher's pockets to fly his corporate jet and live in a mansion. I have seen the same with liberals in the Jewish and Muslim communities as well. Almost always fear trumps God and using religious fear is a known pocket liner. Just get those people afraid and their wallets open up like the flood gates of hell. Whether it is Bin Laden or Pat Robertson, fear works. I believe this is because people are more attuned to fear than love and some believe if they simply fill the coffers, this will some way pay for their own downfalls instead of doing the work of actually thinking and doing.

This is why Liberation Theology put the Reaganites into a tizzy because it empowered the little guy instead of allowing the rich to exploit them to enrich themselves further. It took fear out of the equation and replaced it with the empowering of all (the ancients called that agape or "love of the world"). Ironically the wing nuts took over the mechanics of Liberation Theology and used it to enrich themselves, trampling on the message. Because they knew it worked ~ worse, they were AFRAID it would work since uh-oh, capitalism wasn't the only thing that worked. So they called it "communism" (while adopting the method themselves to enrich a few) and went about going to nations who were adopting it, orchestrating wars, the assassination of a saintly arch bishop, raping nuns, killing babies, and decimating entire communities.

Yet Jerry Falwell used the same method himself ... Those mega-churches with mini-malls hawking their wares in a sense is an adaptation of Liberation Theology. Simply put, it came from out of the scriptures, which said, "If one man has a plow and another a horse, put them together and help one another so you both eat..." Of course the Falwells of the world simply "forget" (and want others to forget) that their own prophet Jesus went amuck in in rage that such a place was in his place of worship. He went through such a "mini-mall" selling sacrificial offerings, food, pilgrim's needs, and turned over the tables of the money changers who were greatly profiting off the poor in the name of God.

Liberation Theology was *not* about profit, it was about sharing so all have enough, which was put into practice by the poor in South America. To their astonishment it worked and instead of laboring for "the man" communities burgeoned where they had no need of him anymore. They developed co-ops and health clinics to help one another. It began to cut into the profits of their rich overlords and we can't have that. The elite believed they "deserved" to enrich themselves on the backs of the poor and thus the perversion by reintroducing fear instead of embracing love (agape) as is taught in most religions. This "agape" means literally putting into practice the "love your neighbor as yourself" no matter whether your neighbors are of your faith, part of your blood family or live across the world.

(sigh) Though I guess this is because I have been greatly influenced by a group of awesome people like those at the Poverty Institute, a seminary master's degree that ALL religious leaders are invited to take, whether Christian, Jew or Muslim.

It makes me sad when folks think we ALL are at fault for the perversion of the message that has caused so much misery and war ~ because some use fear to in the name of God to mask their greed. Those of us are put together with people who in truth, horrify us. Many of us actually believe in "silly" stuff like, "It is harder for a rich man to get to heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle". We would point out this saying is telling us that greed is the ultimate sin. But the difference is we can SEE it in economics, politics, not because "God says so," but because greed causes the miseries in this world where one hoards it all with indifference ignoring the fact their hoarding, usually in the name of God, causes their own neighbors to starve.

Cat in Seattle

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:17 AM
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9. Which are the liberal churches?
Are there certain ones that can be found in most places?

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Jim_Shorts Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 06:50 PM
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15. That's what i would like to know
Here in Michigan there is a church on every corner and they are all conservative. Voters are 2 to 1 repubs and they play fox news in all the restaurants and hospitals.

Conservatism starts in the churches, it seems to me.
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:58 PM
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16. You do have to look HARD for them but they exist ...
...that is, the ones the Wingnuts did not destroy and take them over.

UCC (NEVER mistake the United Church of Christ with the Church of Christ ~ absolute opposites), Congregationalists, Quakers (yes you heard me right, they are WAY more social justice-y than ANY other faith), SOME Presbyterian, SOME Catholics, the Christian Church, Bretherne Church, and SOME Baptists (mostly the American Baptists, not the Southern Baptists) are full of progressives.

Hope this helps


Cat in Seattle
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:19 AM
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10. I think a lot of Americans believed that the Bush problems would go away with
Edited on Sun Jul-17-11 11:20 AM by 1monster
Bush.

When Obama was elected, it was because people were sick to death of the Bush practices that were driving us to bankruptcy. Even I, who was not a believer in the miracles that many Obama voters trumpeted he would bring, thought that things would get better under Obama.

Yes, there has been some change, but no where near enough to infuse optimism. And too much has not changed for the better or at all. We are still in Iraq and Afghanistan throwing away lives and money profligately and Obama has added Libya. Banks, insurance companies, and other corporations are still holding us hostage for life and home while taking our money, offshoring our jobs, and not paying even a fraction of their fair share of taxes, indeed, even getting more tax moneys back than they paid in...

It's not that people gave Bush a break that they refuse to give Obama. It's that we no longer have any resources left. There isn't anything to sacrifice when you've already given all you have and are in debt. When you've lost the roof over your head, what else do you have?

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:49 PM
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13. The problem with a lot of people is..
they don't/didn't really know what the republiCONS are the republiCONS were planning and setting up situations,paying off people,setting up roadblocks,using their fake Democrats in the Democratic party before Obama even took office.

What did they think was going on the months before his inauguaration they were planning. The base of the Democrats a lot of them don't really pay attention to politics until election time and that is what the CONS were counting on they want them to become so angry with Obama that they won't vote.

Now,as we are going through this debt ceiling debate,I am really,really wondering what world do the republiCONS live in where they think the people can't see that they want their way or the highway and no tax increases for their rich buddies.

While people who didn't pay attention at first,have been sitting home and going from job fair to job fair,filling out numerous applications and talking to others while waiting for job interviews or in line for jobs.

I guess they think we don't talk to each other,WRONG REPUBLICONS,the people are on to your shit. I guess they think we can't see them talking up the so called job creators,and I guess they think we can't see how they won't negotiate with Obama no matter what..

Who put Grover Norquist,Demint.lindsay graham and the rest of these asshole over us all,what gives them the authority to decide what is best for 300 million people???

It won't be long now and I can't wait..
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 10:19 PM
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2. K&R!
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:35 PM
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3. sounds like she said 'annual f*ck your county fair'?
never been to one of those
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 08:05 AM
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8. made me do a double take too lol n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 12:24 PM
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11. Maybe the Fockers run the fair.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:51 PM
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5. Too fucking bad they are afraid to protest the Republicans!
Bunch of wimps!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 12:28 PM
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12. The little people need to realize that they are sacrificing so that the military can get over 50%
of the yearly budget.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 06:34 PM
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14. Shout it loud.
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