Ron Paul's Full Speech at CPAC 2011

[DrGee5]

Run time: 21:04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM8d_Arjz6g   Posted on YouTube: February 11, 2011 By YouTube Member: RonPaul2008dotcom Views on YouTube: 39271   Posted on DU: February 13, 2011 By DU Member: DrGee5 Views on DU: 2316

 

[physioex]

1. Ummmm....wont settle well with the Neocons.

He is talking about ending foreign aid, and keeping our noses out.

[Hardrada]

2. Go, Ron Paul!

Make sense to the CPAC goons.

[Hulk]

3. These poor fools....

..they didn't know whether to cheer or jeer. I honestly don't think 90% of the idiots knew what he was talking about. Only the Paul Supporters have any idea what this old fart is even talking about. I agree with a lot of his positions...but he is way over the line on 50% +or- of what he is talking about.

Old fart talks over the crowd's head. Nation of morons. I'd say this crowd was a perfect representation of the air heads in this country.

[W T F]

4. Is it just me?

, or am I hearing Ron Paul talk like a liberal and hearing conservatives cheer him on? "Get out of Iraq"? what happened to " we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here"? Conservatives don't have principles, they just go with what ever their told to do. blindly following their leaders and not questioning them.

[ozone_man]

12. Not just you.

There is much that he has in common with left issues that Kucinich or Sanders would support. The primary difference is social programs, the environment. But ending the FED, wars, corporate welfare, big brother spying on public (Patriot Act), are issues that I certainly support, but Obama and other corporate politicians don't. In many ways. it's like Bush has not left office. We're still immersed in these illegal wars, still bailing out Wall Street, the insurance companies, threatening SS cuts.

[AnneD]

5. Watch your back Ron.....

People that speak the truth tend to have short life spans in this country....JFK,MLK,RFK,MX,. Neocons have a long reach on the right and left end of the political spectrum and they don't like losing the sweet scam they have going here.

[FrenchieCat]

6. WTF? Ron is already older than dirt......

:rofl:

[Name removed]

8. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[physioex]

9. Paul over Obama.....

Never!!! Ron Paul is a real nut bag on every other issue.

[ozone_man]

13. It would be something to see debates between him and Obama

on why we're over there fighting illegal wars, why we bailed out Wall Street instead of Main Street, why Obama hired Clinton financial advisors like Summers, or rehired Bush ones (Bernanke), the same ones who got us into this financial mess.

[K8-EEE]

7. "New Senator from KY..."

OK I get that he's the dad but ugh, Rand Paul is a creep.

[The Wizard]

11. Rand Paul?

You mean Kim Jong Paul.

[civilisation]

10. even a stopped clock,. .

I agree with the 50ish percent making some sense. No country should be so involved in oppression around the world as the US is today. It is clearly wrong. When more money goes to the military war machine than to programs of social uplift, as the case is today, things are SERIOUSLY wrong!
As well the FED, and the whole monetary bankster system, is nothing but a pyramid scam that accelerates wealth from the many to the sociopathic few. The money system needs to be torn down, and a new system built up, to work for the good of everyone, not just a few who are evil enouph to stomp on the lives of those around them to aggrandize themselves.

Where he goes over the cliff, is in his thinking that a "Free Market" is some form of answer,. this takes ZERO accounting of all the many externalities. Say, a logging corporation cuts down all the trees in a watershed, and sells them for private profit, sure they make loads of money. However, they leave the watershed decimated. Destroying fish spawning ground,. (bankrupting fishers miles away) tourism for that area, etc. etc.
Really all natural resources are 'owned' by all of us,. how any indvidual or group can claim a right to exploite and sell them for private profit is beyond my understanding. They should be payed for their labour (extraction, processing, shipping) and the profits used by all the people. You can call me a commi in that regard.
There needs to be an organized 'voice of the people', i.e a government in some form, that imposes the collective will of the people to protect and regulate the actions of individuals and groups (corporations), holding them to account! How these freepers think corporations will be restrained by a free market is never brought up by them.

[Atypical Liberal]

14. Yeah, he almost stepped in it.

Where he goes over the cliff, is in his thinking that a "Free Market" is some form of answer,. this takes ZERO accounting of all the many externalities. Say, a logging corporation cuts down all the trees in a watershed, and sells them for private profit, sure they make loads of money. However, they leave the watershed decimated. Destroying fish spawning ground,. (bankrupting fishers miles away) tourism for that area, etc. etc.

I agree. I like Ron Paul. On many of his stances, like war, I prefer him over Obama. But he almost stepped on his own landmine during his speech. He was talking about the problems in the Middle East and how they are caused by our meddling in their government, but he neglected to point out that we have also been meddling in their economics. I think he is spot-on about our interference in other people's governments, but I think he is ignoring the brutality of unregulated capitalism. Not to mention, of course, that these wars are simply ways to protect corporate interests in the first place.

[UpScope]

15. Lumbering Paul

Ron Paul and libertarians in general are so enamored of the imagined perfect symmetry of an ideology that is ultimately as utopian as Marxism, that a practical analysis of logical outcomes is precluded - and that would be to weaken the government which acts as a buffer between the rapaciousness of corporations and the citizenry resulting in the primacy of wealth and corporations whose only responsibility is to increase their own wealth and power. How much liberty does a flock of sheep have?

[AlbertCat]

20. Ron Paul and libertarians in general are so enamored of the imagined perfect symmetry of an ideology

... that is ultimately as utopian as Marxism,


********


Well put.


Ron wants the government to leave you alone.... unless you are pregnant. This paradox of ideology alone should be enough to make one pause... big time.

[Atypical Liberal]

22. The problem with the libertarian philosophy.

The problem with the libertarian philosophy is two-fold. Firstly, they ignore greed, and the fact that some people will do anything to satisfy their greed. Secondly, as those with no scruples go forth to satisfy their greed, they accumulate power, and, as we all know, power corrupts.

Left alone, the scum will rise to the top, consolidating power into an unassailable conglomeration. This was how we ended up with robber barons in the past, and it is why there is so little difference between Democrats and Republicans today.

[AlbertCat]

19. There needs to be an organized 'voice of the people'

There needs to be an organized 'voice of the people', i.e a government in some form,


Like a House.... of Representatives.... or something....


that imposes the collective will of the people to protect and regulate the actions of individuals and groups (corporations),


Yeah! They could make laws regulating these industries!


holding them to account!


We used to actually do those things a bit.... when I was a kid, and earlier....

[bowens43]

16. Ron Paul is out of his freaking mind

but even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.

[vets74]

17. Surely now this is a CONSERVATIVE LEFT

This is not in any way the Far Right Beck, Limbaugh, Fox News, Murdoch, Koch message.

Every major point from Paul matches what in EU is the Left:

-- The "Patriot Act" is nothing but an attack on the Fourth Amendment

-- America cannot afford 900 military bases in 135 countries -- plus this use of force does not work

-- Diplomacy has to be aimed at maximizing freedom worldwide

-- The Federal Reserve is operating as its own government, its own pot o' gold for the finance sector insiders

-- Government should never be allowed to do what its citizens are not allowed to do

Ron Paul barely maintains contact with the traditional states-righter bigots. He drops a couple of bread crumbs: that government programs are inefficient, that "bipartisanship" has led to higher spending and taxes.

Big whoop. Ron Paul is now a Man of the Left. Let us rejoice, let us ring forth as with Jerusalem:

Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O'clouds unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

The thrusts of this speech go to thorough acceptance of Left positions related to human political affairs.

BTW: two speaking flaws slip through. He said "$4 billion" for Federal Reserve profligacy, where that figure is $4-trillion. Insider giveaways are at least $4-trillion from October 2008 to the present. He also fails to appreciate that The Fed redistributed fully 20% of America's wealth to the insiders -- Big Bubble I (1994-2000) and Big Bubble II (2003-2008.)

But he is learning.

He also said "Samuel Johnson" toward the end. He meant to say John Adams, apparently got started toward the wrong Adams, Sam Adams (smuggler and brewer, turned Governor of Massachusetts), and ended up with Lyndon Johnson's surname.

Samuel Johnson was that Englishman who wrote the great dictionary and was subject of James Boswell's "The Life of Samuel Johnson."

[Charleston Chew]

18. an asset

Regardless of what Ron Paul stands for he needs to be recognized as an asset to the Liberal Progressive movement as he keeps arch conservatives divided.

I could also argue that Sara Palin and Glenn Beck are useful in much the same way.

[Charleston Chew]

21. related links

At Gathering, Ron Paul Is No. 1 for 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/us/politics/13cpac.html?ref=us

Scenes From the Conservative Political Action Conference
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2011/02/13/us/20110213_CPAC.html