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Britethorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:30 AM
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Tragedy in Tucson: Don't Blame the Right
 
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We need to put the breaks on.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:46 AM
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:43 AM
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2. Can we say a nice thing about the government and STILL blame the Right...?
Because I don't think the two are antithetical, especially seeing that the goal of the Right is to make sure the government gets reduced to the military and police.

As to good things, as a photographer, I'm especially grateful for the creation and preservation of the National Parks and Forests -- often (although few realize it today) against massive efforts by "the Right" of the time to prevent any part of the country from being spared from "harvesting" of its natural resources by the Robber Barons who are the spiritual ancestors of those pulling the Teabaggers' strings.

But, as an American in general, I deeply appreciate the New Deal's work in pulling us out of the Great Depression -- and all other efforts, primarily by progressives and Democrats, to provide a "safety net" to protect us from the depredations of the Social Darwinist state conservatives seem so hell-bent (and I mean "hell" literally, in this case) on creating here.

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Britethorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 12:52 PM
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9. People take a lot of things for granted. . .
Like the FDA, the EPA and the Interstate Highway system to name just a few. Do any of these creations of the government work perfectly? Of course not, but we are still far, far better off with them than without them.

As for blaming the Right, if Rep. Giffords is as well liked in D.C. as she is said to be, I'm hopeful that many in the Right will come forward and begin to wash the hate speech out of their rhetoric. Perhaps I am too great of an optimist, but I think that a Silence from the Left would bring far greater shame to the Right than any words of blame we could cast toward the Right.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:52 AM
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3. Our government isn't broken?
Wow.

The senate is a dysfunctional mess that can't get anything done without bribes.

The swinging door between Wall Street and government officials is incentive for self-serving and out in the open corrupt politics.

Corporations basically pull the strings of all our public officials and it's not even behind closed doors anymore. They rub it in your face.

Communities are selling off infrastructure to cover budget shortfalls for a year or two to private operations who then own it for 75 years or more.

This country is sinking and our government is filled with self-serving, corrupt individuals whose first priority is taking care of themselves and representing those who do that best--and it ain't us.

They talk about the funding problem of social secrutiy and why we need to overhaul the system and then they CUT funding with a two percent FICA cut. The game is obvious.

I'm sorry I don't share your rose colored glasses.

Reality won't let me.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:17 AM
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4. I can say this was an absolute inevitability.
How many times has Cenk Uygur warned of this in the last two years? There are a lot of good things government does for us (it's employing me temporarily) and we are reminded of those things every time some right-wing politician talks about cutting them off.
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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:33 AM
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5. Our officials make government inefficient
It's not a question of whether a well functioning government can and should do good for its citizens.

But we're talking about THIS government--the one where regulation is a dirty word and safety nets are being torn apart.

We starve education programs of funding and complain how terrible they are.

THIS government is not working.

This is not the government of FDR.

How do we fix that?
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politic_vic Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:31 AM
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6. My Veteran's health care is the best I've ever had,
I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have my Government run health care. The great thing about government services is that their main goal is to provide a "SERVICE" unlike private contractors who's main goal is to "MAKE MONEY".
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:34 AM
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7. well in one sense your right
Representative government use to do good things for it's people. We as voters are broken and get the government we install. However the government is secretive and deceptive. It does things without our consent like this recent tax cut on borrowed money. There have been peaceful marches that have been ignored. Our reps aren't listening to the majority anymore but the minority. Most of us are saying tax the uber wealthy but are they listening? MSM is no longer the 4th estate and doesn't inform but instructs us what to think.

I don't think most see the government as the enemy but many do. They're on the right. The rest of us work very hard to have our voice be heard. But as others have stated corporate money has more influence. Campaign finance should be a huge issue but it's not right now because the economy is so bad and so many hurting. They've stolen our social security surplus to pay for tax cuts and occupations or the debt. We have a crook for a governor in my state. Bank lobbyists have been elected in many states to Congress.

Not sure it's time to put the brakes on. SOP is serving Wall Street not Main. But I agree that hating government is not the answer and is how we got where we are. Norquist has said he wants it so small to drown it in a bathtub. That's the right my friend.

We had a financial coup d'état. We can't ignore that. Corruption abounds. No it's time to demand and hold accountable those we send to Washington.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:41 AM
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8. Unfortunately, we had tens of thousands of years of violence by the right wing ....
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 10:44 AM by defendandprotect
50+ years of right wing political violence in America --

Did Hitler rise solely because people had general criticism for their

government post-WWI --

or because of right wing propaganda creating hatred for liberalism, true social

remedies which the original NAZI party offered for labor, health, health care and

women's rights -- ? Hatred for Jews and African Americans?

Really not different than from what is going on today.

Let's also recall that it was right wing lies which has involved our nation in two

illegal and immoral wars of aggression --

wars which should have been ENDED as the right wing left office --

Pelosi in '06 on video: "Democrats were elected to end the war!" --

Then what?

Five years later -- Democratic Party refunding for the wars since '06 -- and now we

since '08 Bush/Obama wars.


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