CNN on the 9-11 mystery plane

[lovuian]

Run time: 03:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKJ3W0X3tXA   Posted on YouTube: September 13, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: September 14, 2007 By DU Member: lovuian Views on DU: 7134

 
This has made the News and there is film of the White plane and we have had no official reports on it

[againes654]

1. I can't get the video to word

Grrrrrrr. Guess I will keep trying.

[pretzel4gore]

87. best go to internet cafe for these vids

unless your system is able, youtube etc just not going to load:(
a $20 acc't at a cafe keeps you up-to-date, and lets the home system alone

[FourScore]

2. I didn't know about this. Thanks for posting it. n/t

[lovuian]

3. This is proof that the Warren Commission withheld information

from the public and the EB4 looks very similiar and could be mistaken as a commercial jet

why was it eliminated from the 911 Warren Commission report and CNN now finally has come out and questioned it OWN report

[Rick Myers]

4. That is clearly an E-4B, the video is clear enough for a positive id

Nothing else has that specific configuration. Period.

[lovuian]

5. so where is the explanation on why it was flying

over the whitehouse

why didn't it go up and intercept the 911 plane heading for it

or was this part of the smoke screen for the public

[jefferson_dem]

10. Couldn't it have gone airborn after the twin towers were hit...

as a precautionary measure, just in case we needed it?

Pretty cool but I don't see the conspiracy.

[lovuian]

16. if it went up airborn before the towers was hit then it should

have defended the Pentagon if it was up by initializing missiles defending the whitehouse

and whats a EB4 mission control plane up without being defended with fighter jets in a wartime mode???

this doesn't make sense at the time we were under attack

[Rick Myers]

11. It's a command and control aircraft. Not armed.

May have been there to pick up Unkle Dick if necessary. The fact that it was in restricted airspace is interesting, since it would have needed to land at Andrews to board anyone...

E-4B "Nightwatch"

The Boeing E-4B Advanced Airborne Command Post, with a project name of "Nightwatch", is an aircraft operated by the United States Air Force and is specially built to serve as a survivable mobile command post for the National Command Authority (the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense, and successors)...

(from Wikipedia)

[lovuian]

38. well I hate to tell them a Survivable mobile command with

no weapons to defend it isn't going to survive very long

who thought this up???

but heres a thought they obviously weren't worried about defending itself obviously they knew the enemy wasn't going to attack it???

and HOW did they KNOW that???

[Pawel K]

17. You conspiracy theorists are batshit crazy dude

sorry to sound rude but you can clearly see what this was. What do you mean why didn't it intercept the 911 plane? This is nothing more than a communications station, it has no weapons on board. No matter how much evidance is shown to you and no matter how much evidance you lack nothing will change your mind in regards to this. And having so many of you here makes us all look bad, as I've said many times.

[lovuian]

20. ROFL crazy dude thats me but even CNN would like to know

WHY we weren't told and WHY the commission didn't report that communication plane up in the sky ...it would show how they defended the country against attack... so we could be proud something worked that day Norad didn't

[Pawel K]

22. I'm up for some amusement. What do you make of this mystery plane?

Please, do enlighten me.

[lovuian]

24. No Why don't you explain it you have all the answers Its very

explainable I'm amused tell me why please
You first

[Pawel K]

25. See, that's how you guys work

In your crazy world it's not up to you to provide evidance for your conspiracy theory, its up to the people that call you on your bullshit to prove a negative. It doesn't work quite that way, you should know that.

[lovuian]

30. there is evidence film of a unknown white plane flying in

restricted air space over the Whitehouse with NO explanation from Whitehouse Military or 911 Commision

when there is NO explanation then people wonder what are you hiding

or are we all suppose to go to bed with the formal explanation that Terrorists attacked America while Norad Military FBI and CIA slept at the wheel

Don't question just sit back and swallow the explanation

this was a MAjor attack resulting in thousands of deaths

We DEMAND explanation on incompetence and Negligence

[GMFORD]

51. You didn't answer the question.

Since 0 information has been provided, anything anyone says is just a theory or a guess. Curious what yours is since you are so quick to call someone else names who does have a theory.

[JuniperLea]

56. Learn to spell...

And to form proper sentences. More importantly, learn to use the "spell check" function available on DU.

You are making us all look like a bunch of idiots.


:eyes:


You are behaving no better than the infamous "get a brain moran" dude.

[lovuian]

73. Forgive me I didn't spell correctly

One thousand apologies I'm so sorry

It almost makes a person not what to post here for fear of being called a "get a brain moran" dude

So sorry

I hope I spelled it right

[orleans]

102. Juniperx wasn't talking to you. it's okay. i'm reading your posts

and enjoying what you're saying. and i'm agreeing with you. and, from what i can tell, you're spelling just fine.

[lovuian]

107. Doh Juniper sorry dude I thought you were talking about me

Doh!!! Simpson grabs a donut

[angstlessk]

113. Well, hell, if you misspelled a word..that PROVES the OCT to be correct

the people who believe the boosh conspiracy theory will try to find anything to dissuade anyone from critical thinking...

[whathappened]

76. i'.m feeling as mean as a junk yard dog tonite

why don't you shove your webster book up yours and let us just spell as we see fit , fuck webster , who says he new how to spell

[razors edge]

66. Let us take a look at your statements.

"See, that's how you guys work In your crazy world it's not up to you to provide evidance for your conspiracy theory, its up to the people that call you on your bullshit to prove a negative."

1) What evidence has been provided from the official story that there were 19 Muslim hijackers aboard those planes that day, go to the official flight logs of passengers and you can't find them, at least not that many of them, and there is no video with a time date stamp of them entering the airports. You can say lack of proof means nothing, but the proof that the official story is a lie is in the logs inability to place the accused at the scene of the crime.

2) How do you explain a group of 19 Muslims hijacking four planes that day as anything other than a conspiracy?

3) There is proof positive that Bush was sitting in a classroom full of children for at least 7 minutes after Card informed him the nation was under attack, how did the secret service know he was safe to just sit there when his location that day was announced days ahead of time?

4) why is Usama Bin Laden still to this day not listed at the FBI's ten most wanted list in connection with 9-11? Many of his other achievements are listed, but not 9-11, please explain that. http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


Answer those four simple questions and you will have my respect and admiration, answer not and show yourself as a shill for the greatest lie ever told told to a nation.

[lovuian]

27. First you said it had No weaponsHow do you know its unarmed?

Do you know all about the plane tell me? Its a communications plane

Why have a communications plane unarmed flying around the whitehouse

heres a suppose if we are under attack
someone could have shot it down and it crash in the whitehouse
or hit it

But its too bad it couldn't or wouldn't defend the Pentagon

[Pawel K]

28. We know its unarmed just by looking at it

if that doesn't satisfy you go on and read all the information available on this plane, including wikipedia.

Dude, just stop. You are making yourself look bad. Then again I'm sure in your world I'm a government agent trying to silence you, huh?

[lovuian]

31. Wikipedia has all the information on a TopSecret Communication

base I'm going to hurry up and read that

Dang Wikipedia knows everything even TopSecret stuff

DUDE thanks

[Pawel K]

36. Oh I get it now, you opened my eyes

contributors to wikipedia don't have the top secrect information regarding the weapons but somehow you do. This is dumb, I'm done with this topic. For fucksake dude, you didn't even know 9/11 involved 4 planes, and we're supposed to take you seriously? Do me a favor and don't anwser that, its what we call a rhetorical question. Like I said, Im done with this idiotic conversation.

[JuniperLea]

61. Thank God!

You were making no sense anyway.

[obiwan]

78. John Hinckley initially appeared unarmed. And look at what he did.

You cannot tell if an aircraft is armed or unarmed by merely looking at it, unless you work for "Jane's All The World's Aircraft" or similar. For instance, an F-117 stealth fighter carries all of its armaments internally, so externally it appears unarmed. In reality, it is very lethal. In addition, none of the hijacked airliners on 9/11 were armed, yet they managed to kill hundreds of people. Your argument is specious at best.

Dude, just stop. You are making yourself look bad. You are not literate enough to be a government agent. So I am not worried, either in my world, yours, or anyone else's.

[TwilightGardener]

79. How would a 747 be armed? Do you see bomb bay doors on it?

Tailguns? Missiles? It might have some countermeasures against attack, but I highly doubt it's armed in the conventional sense.

[lovuian]

80. well heres the point why send up a defenseless plane in a

attack area and its mission control to boot!!!

"I highly doubt its armed in the conventional sense"

good point but maybe its unconventional like being able to push a button which releases a nuclear missile in a silo

its mission control in case of nuclear war

would you call it freakin dangerous

what if it had a button to shoot a missile somewhere

What ya think???

[TwilightGardener]

82. You're talking about different things now. Armed vs. defenseless vs. nuke-launching.

The point is, we may never know why it was in DC on that day, and maybe it just isn't something that we need to know. I highly doubt it was up to no good.

[lovuian]

83. you could be right Your so trusting

I wish I could trust Bush and Cheney like that

I just am suspicious

911 was not Bush and Cheney's finest hours even though they like us to think that

They wanted us to think Rudy was a hero and yet Christine and Rudy said the air was OK down at ground zero

No wonder we are losing in Iraq caue our military leaders need to rethink their strategies

[superkia]

33. Go talk to Valerie Plame, oh wait she isnt allowed to talk.

[lovuian]

35. Ya and I have found some WMD in Iraq too

that you can have

[soulcore]

88. The point is that all air traffic was CLOSED.

Why was this one plane, evidently a command and control center, in the skies above Washington when everything else (including our jet interceptors it seems) was grounded, or participating in drills.

[TwilightGardener]

92. Um...because it's the DOOMSDAY plane? If ANY plane is going

to be in the air when we are under attack, it'll probably be...the DOOMSDAY plane! The NAOC is an airborne command and control center for JUST SUCH A SCENARIO!! Hol-eee shit.

[lovuian]

95. A doomsday Plane and it has NO protection ???

A doomsday machine with vital equipment that if crashed got in the wrong hands ...be very bad and yet NO wing fighters to defend it

Nothing just a big ole white 747 flying up there defenseless hovering over the whitehouse watching the Pentagon smoke and be attacked

How did it get there so fast and yet NO OTHER FIGHTER planes got there

fighters are faster than a E4B right???

[TwilightGardener]

97. I'm pretty sure the folks that operate it know what they're doing.

And they're never going to tell you about it. Peace--:-)

[lovuian]

108. Dude I'm not so sure they do cause why fly in a hostile area

with no protection

But maybe they somehow knew there was No bogies out there to attack

and how did they know that???

[bridgit]

89. that is my understanding as well

that craft's pilots & crew are standing by hair triggered & spring loaded to bail into action

[lovuian]

96. Hir triggered & spring loaded like a button pushing plane

that when a button is pushed a missile fires???

and when a missile fires then you would want eye confirmation right because hey your secret and nobody knows your there

except thousands of Freakin people and CNN and BBC

Idiots

[defendandprotect]

6. Weren't we supposed to think that the White House was threatened . . .. ??

I seem to recall that --

[lovuian]

8. I'll just say by the film footage

I concede 4 planes

[Pawel K]

26. Umm...there were 4 planes

one of them was brought down. You don't recall flight 93?

[lovuian]

34. oops your right it was four good point concede that

I'll edit that

[thereismore]

7. They scrambled E-4B before they scrambled fighter planes?

I think E-4B was part of 9/11 somehow.

[lovuian]

9. you would scramble a E4B before defending the Pentagon

with the faster fighter planes??? what an error in judgement

[againes654]

12. Maybe....

it wasn't an error????:shrug:

[huskerco]

15. They clearly lied

The Government has denied that this plane was in Washington D.C. on 9/11. Why did they lie? Isn't that enough in itself to justify a reopening of the 9/11 investigation?

[lovuian]

19. there is evidence it lied and eye witness reports from

CNN reporters and secret service must have seened it and obviously didn't know it was ours if they were frightened and hurrying people away

[Rick Myers]

18. The E-4Bs are rotated around to various bases.

I think there are 4 of them, total. One always on alert. But it seems to have gotten 'on scene' pretty damn quickly...

It makes no sense to put that aircraft anywhere near an actual attack. But that is what it was...

[lovuian]

21. good point and it was defenseless during the attack No

accompanying fighter jets ... you put up mission control with no defense

Does that make sense hmmmm

if I had mission control for Nuclear attack I would want defense to protect it

[JuniperLea]

58. THAT is the bottom line...

IF no one knew what was going on with the hijacked planes and the attack plans, it makes no sense at all to send an unarmed communications plane into that area without proper protection by armed fighter jets.

IF...

[ewagner]

29. Excellent Point Rick

Remember "Looking Glass"?

It was supposed to be far, far away from harm's way......

That E4B should NEVER have been in the vincinity of the projected target area...remember flt 93 was supposed to be heading for the white house...and flt 77 (?...I think) had already hit the Pentatgon....

I'm sure the info is classified up the yazooo but my guess is somebody screwed up...again....

[hedgehog]

106. It's possible you just hit the nail on the head.

If you knew that a plane was headed to crash into the White House and you have no idea of where it is and when it will arrive, maybe you scramble the one plane that's ready and have it circle the White house to block the attack plane. Not much of a plan, but people were working the seat of the pants method that day. Presumably, someone else ordered the plane out of the area.

[lovuian]

109. well thats a crazy idea an E4B can get to the whitehouse

before anybody else but heres the other crazy thing E4B flys alone mission control is going to defend the whitehouse from attack

thats a real stretch but I agree possible

just if thats so our Military is pathetic on their strategies and is probably why 911 was such a travesty

everyone in the Military head honchos should have had the buttss demoted

sorry this strategy sucks
fighters should have gotten to the target site before a E4B
but how convenient that the E4B gets there and it can't shoot down the plane before it hits the pentagon

this is screwed freakin up

and the 911 commision which is SUPPOSE to give recommendations on how to defend our country better

forgets to put this in the report

oh ya you can see why

[hedgehog]

112. I don't mean to suggest that it was a good idea, just the possibility that

it was the best someone could come up with on 2 minute's notice. There seems to be a consensus that it was an E4B, so for whatever reason, it was flying alone that day that moment.

[lovuian]

114. thats a possibility your right

but was it 2 minutes notice??? wasn't it like longer since the first plane hit the World Trade Center

I think Bush was like sitting reading Pet Goat like more than two minutes

[Kermitt Gribble]

13. This is the first I've heard of the "Mystery Plane"

Thanks for the post, very interesting.












edit for spelling(fat fingers)

[tridim]

14. Just one more of the thousands of basic unanswered questions from that day

A question that will probably never be answered or even addressed.

[lovuian]

23. but this is on film and reported by CNN

and Warren Commision failed to put an explantion in their report

[Rick Myers]

45. Didn't the Warren Commission investigate JFK's shooting?

[lovuian]

55. LOL Omg freudian slip its the 911 Commission

sorry

[defendandprotect]

70. Same thing --- !!!

[spirit of wine]

32. No Doubt This Raises Too Many Questions

A New Investigation must be opened before next years election. I hope one that can be seen as impartial, perhaps an outside country without political ties. If nobody actually has an answer to these new questions than nobody should think looking for real honest answers should be a problem.

[defendandprotect]

71. Many of the first investigations of JFK and 9/11 came from OUTSIDE our own country --

and they were right on!!!

Two coups on democracy ---

[Redstone]

37. Oh, give it a fucking rest, would you?

Redstone

[lovuian]

40. No I will not rest until I understand how the Pentagon

was attacked by a bunch of Bozo's and I spend my tax earned money to have my country defended

then I'm freakin lied to that WMD are in Iraq by this government and we go to freakin war spending tons of my tax dollars

and I;m told to just give it a rest

Sorry I'm not letting this regime off the hook so easy

[Redstone]

42. OK, have at it, and enjoy.

Redstone

[lovuian]

44. Thanks

I appreciate your understanding

[JuniperLea]

60. Not to mention...

"permission"


:eyes:

[JuniperLea]

59. Gee... how nice of you to allow others freedom of speech...

:eyes:

[frylock]

67. enjoy your chocolate rations..

the lack of curiosity by some posters is truly astounding. everything is as it seems. continue shopping and reproducing.

[Pawel K]

39. 7 recommendations for this stupid topic

can you people please think before you click that recommend link?

[lovuian]

41. Lov ya

Dude hang in there
I understand your frustration truly

[jgraz]

50. OK, I thought about it. K&R.

[wildbilln864]

52. me too!

K&R! :hi:

[jgraz]

54. See ya at Guantanamo!

:hi:

[1monster]

57. You've just prompted me to reccommend this thread... The point isn't the theories, it is that there

are far far too many unanswered questions regarding 9/11. And I suspect that once there are any truthful answers forthcoming, there will be many mny more questions that need answering.

Why so hostile to asking the questions? Or do you like being told to move along because there is nothing to see here? Do you really believe that what you don't know can't hurt you???

[Pawel K]

85. What questions are you asking about this plane?

What answers do you want them to give you?

Our country was under attack, we had this plane on 24 hour stand by near washington, so it responded. If anything this should make you sleep better at night since at least something went right that day. And the reason they don't want to comment on this is that they don't want to tell the whole fucking world about how they respond to these types of attacks. I know this administration has hidden behind the classified label to hide their crimes, but believe it or not there are actually somethings in this world that we do need to keep secret.

These questions are dumb, you people that keep recommending this haven't even read a damn thing the author has said, he didn't even know 9/11 involved 4 planes, he thought it was 3. And people like you give him exposure to keep posting these half baked theories. What difference does it make to you people that this plane was up there? How does that fit in to that idiotic theory these people have that Bush brought the towers down using holograms.

Yes, questions need to be asked. These questions involve the incompetence of our government, not some stupid conspiracy theories. So before you go on to defend the OP again explain to me how this plane fits in to anything involving a conspiracy.

[1monster]

91. If I knew that, I could be giving the answer. I don't know how or even whether

the plane fits into the events of 9/11/01. But neither do you.

As for what answers I want... I want the truth. But I very much doubt any of us will ever hear it from those in power now or in the future.

I certainly don't accept the answers we have been given thus far about 9/11. Some of those answers are so ludicrous that only people who were in shock from the events could have accepted them.

[lovuian]

94. So they want to keep this plane a secret then WHY take it

in the attack area where all the cameras and terrified people were running for safety... Now that they have the plane on film the secret is out as well as eye witnesses... Does the 911 commission just think that the pathetic excuse that they had lots of stuff to put together is an excuse... that 911 commissioner didn't deny that the plane wasn't there did he and he didn't say the film was BS

All he said was that there was just too much ...to look at

His body language said a lot the blinking of his eyes and his insincere chuckle that the theory our own government attacked us

He got caught in a LIE and so we are just suppose to Believe him... cause he is the COMMISSIONER

Let me tell you the standard tactic

first you call the person crazy who questions
then you get a titled (phd lawyer or reputable person) the socalled "expert"
they come and and say No what you saw isn't true crazy
and thats it over done


unfortunately you need people to TRUST
and after NO WMD in Iraq
Trust is Broken

CNN had to come out and VERIFY its own reporter and its own film
lately people don't TRUST their reporting

propoganda doesn't work if there is no trust or credibility
talk to Russia

[1monster]

104. Hey, I was arguing FOR asking the questions. The people in power have

have lied so much that there's talk that Persian rug makers are sending all of their rug weavers to Washington to take notes...

[TwilightGardener]

105. They don't keep the planes a secret. Come out to Omaha and

watch it circle the skies. They're just not going to divulge everything it does, everyone it flies around, and every mission it goes on.

[Pawel K]

116. But by asking these questions without any premise in to those questions

you are throwing a bunch of bullshit out and trying to draw your own conclusions from it with no evidance to back anything up, just empty questions that mean absolutely nothing. Anybody can take an event, especially if its a tragic event, ask a bunch of stupid questions, and then claim there is some conspiracy behind that event because all the questions can not be anwsered.

So to continue this what answers do you not accept in to 9/11? Which of those answers do you think are "so ludicrous that only people who were in shock" could accept them? It's easy to make these statements, its a little harder to actually give examples so people like me know what you are talking about.

I have no doubts the 9/11 commission white washed this administration's failures in the lead up to 9/11. That's why most people are not happy with their finidings. But to claim a conspiracy because the people we continue to elect are too chicken shit to stand up to this administration dumbs down this entire argument to the point where sane people like me can't even bring up the fact these investigations were whitewashed because as soon as we do we sound like the OP does. Because of people like the OP, because of these stupid questions you guys continue to bring up, anybody that questions the 9/11 commission report is seen as a crazy conspiracy theorist. And if these stupid discussions continue to be brought up to the greatest page every single time they come up this great community with so much information is going to become one big punch line which is why I continue to hope that people will think a little more before they endorse this type of shit.

[1monster]

117. For starters, that two 110 story buildings could fall in their own footprits in eight and

ten seconds respectively. (That is freefall speed... Wasn't there any structural resistance at all going down to the areas where there was no fire damage?)

Two: That the only person who did anything to avert further disasters was the (Democratic) Secretary of Transportation who ordered all domestic flights down at the nearest airport... Why was he the only one to do anything (according to him, he was not in touch with anyone in the Administration when he made that order).

Three: The incredible (and Iuse that word intentionally) failure of NORAD.

Four: Given that there were militry, anti-terroism exercises going on that morning and STILL there were no military aircraft up in time to stop the flight that crashed into Pennsylvania more than an hour and a half AFTER the first tower was hit, WHY NOT?

Five: Why no action was taken when it was known that first one, then two, then three, and finally four flights had been highjacked.

And those are only the first questions that come to mind.

So to continue this what answers do you not accept in to 9/11? Which of those answers do you think are "so ludicrous that only people who were in shock" could accept them? It's easy to make these statements, its a little harder to actually give examples so people like me know what you are talking about.

on edit: separated into paragraphs, clarified a sentence.

[Pawel K]

119. If I give you a reasonable explaination for all that will you listen

or just brush it off? let me know as this will take me some time, but if you are going to brush it off and not listen then I won't even bother. Cool?

[1monster]

120. That would depend on your qualifications to give me a "reasonable explanaton."

How are you qualified?

By the way, I had to show that film, "Why the Towers Fell" in five different history classes one day, so I am familiar with that less than believable explanation.

If you have something better than that and that explains other anomalies, I'm open to listen.

But to be quite honest, the fact that almost all of the evidence from the towers was immediately sold and shipped extremely quickly, most evidence is strictly speculation on anyone's part.

[lovuian]

121. Hey maybe you can explain reasonably how the 911 Commission

book and report failed to report on the mystery plane flying over the whitehouse

and how the 911 Commissioner still refused to admit that it was there and the film was legit

the excuse was we just had so much to deal with

It felt surreal that here is evidence and yet the 911 Commission just refuses to see it or acknowledge it

911 Commission is the final word. They are the experts but unfortunately there are many mysteries that linger

The flying out of Bin Laudin family by Aschcroft

The workers at the 911 cleanup weren't properly attired for toxins and yet Pentagon and Pennsylvania crews were

We want answers

[TwilightGardener]

93. Thank you for your sanity. I've been trying to say the same thing, but

you've succeeded.

[JuniperLea]

62. Gee... I thought you were through with this conversation

:shrug:

[JuniperLea]

63. I'm about to make it 12!! eom

[frylock]

68. you've spent an awful lot of time bumping this stupid topic..

curious to be sure. rec'd just to spite you.

[Rick Myers]

43. Just a guess, but it IS possible the plane was at Andrews on alert

Then took off, 'scrambing' to first get airborne, then out of the area. My general assumption is the Nightwatch plane would GET AIRBORNE first, then decide on a flight plan. Maybe this airplane was told to get outta Washington airspace, and maybe it was on the way to meet AF One once it landed somewhere. I don't have a detailed timeline in front of me, but AF One bugged out of Sarasota and eventually landed at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.

But it was clearly a 747 variant with a flag on the tail that very unique antenna dome behind the flight deck. No other aircraft has that specific feature. It's an E-4B.

[lovuian]

46. you put up a E4B first ok I understand that but right after it you

put up a couple of fighters to defend it right

and fighters are Faster than the EFB right

where is the fighters that go with the EFB and why go over washington??? get the hell out of there???

oh and one fighter could have hightailed it and defended the Pentagon before it was hit

No explanation from 911 commission on WHY and Where and who

Just No explanation

Hell its a UFO

[wildbilln864]

47. Maybe it was...

part of one of the many exercises going on at that time. One was an drill designed exactly like the attacks that happened. Strange dat!

[lovuian]

53. Well then just tell us it was a drill but if it was a drill shouldn't

it be protected by fighters if its not armed

[Felinity]

48. Does anyone check for duplicates anymore?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1800314

[lovuian]

49. this is the video

so people can see it easier

[JuniperLea]

64. Oh hell no...

We much prefer to be badgered by the self-appointed DU police!


:eyes:

[Festivito]

65. Another bizarre conspiracy to hide the real conspiracy.

Yep, the military sat on this. SO WHAT? It's good they have one; it's good they keep it quiet.

BUT, NOW, released as Bush lies start to roost.
1. It gives the left busy work.
2. It gives the rightwing pundits fodder:

"It's a gold mine for conspiracy theorists."
Read... THEY ARE NUTTY TO BE NUTTY.

And a bunch of trolls fire responses.

And what happens to the real conspiracy?
The Military-Industrial-CONgressional - MEDIA -CHURCH Complex.

Shhhhhh! No one notices.

[SirBlackAdder]

69. Sorry to butt in here.....

The plane shown looks to have the star-wars laser attachment on it. If that is the actual plane...from what I remember,

Chernoff said he 'had a bad feeling', a couple months ago, about a terrorist attack, so they know something is up. Other than that people in Government treat it like a business, like insurance, they know something will happen, they refuse to enact policies for screening out people, because OBVIOUSLY the Neo-Conservatives WANT the US MILITARY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. And some Democrats do also, the Bush 'administration' is not being opposed very well by the 'democrats' who are afraid of another attack, meaning instant NEOCON administration for 4 more years, until the next ;attack', then 4 more years of the Neocons, if we last that long.

...hmmmmmm. Where is Nader, and Gore?

[lovuian]

74. Well Now your picking up what I was thinking. How do we Know

it was defenseless??? cause it makes no sense to put up Mission Control with no defenses

People who tell me its Defenseless and look on Wikipedia as evidence got to think about it a bit more

Maybe it had top notch defenses and people don't know cause its TOP SECRET

[Festivito]

81. WOW! Two posts having NOTHING in reply to prior post. Interesting.

laser. CherNoff? screening. attacks. fear. Nader. Gore.

What? Busy work?

Answered by: defenseless. got to.

Interesting.

Welcome newbie. Hope you learn a lot.

[lovuian]

84. Yes the picture is bigger

You won't here me argue on that point

[defendandprotect]

72. Did CNN in resurrecting this plane ask why the 9/11/Warren Commission didn't report this -- ?

Or investigate it -- ???

Farce upon farce and our tax dollars keep flying away and into the pockets of . . . .
Bush cronies.

[lovuian]

75. Ok another great point Why did CNN come out with this report on

9/11

Give me ideas everybody

My gut tells me this video was taped on 911 and it has been on You tube with the 911 Bloggers asking What was it???

this people are the reporters we need out there

CNN had to bring it up because its their film their reporter and they never asked the obvious question until

as Cooper showed us what the 911 Bloggers are asking "Did it coordinate the attacks on the US"

Was it Mission Control Osama Binnie Laudin Cheney???

thats what the Blogger hinted at
CNN was a bit embarrassed
and CNN doesn't have the only footage of this white mystery plane
BBC and others do too

But don'tcha love the 911 Commission guy We just had so much information that we just couldn't remember a white plane flying over the Pentagon after the Pentagon was hit... we just had too much stuff to remember or write about

GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK... thats a BIG thing buddy

[Phrogman]

77. Yes this is big, and there must be a bigger reason for CNN to be releasing this info at this time

possibly to head off something else thats come to light, or to throw a distraction into somebodies independent research.

But AFTER ALL THE DENIAL, finding out that the government had a plane in the air and over the pentagon during the attack is HUGE FUCKING NEWS!

[subsuelo]

86. It could also be

That someone at CNN finally came around to accepting some difficult realizations for once?

I know, wishful thinking. But it could be the case, couldn't it?

[Phrogman]

90. That would be nice...e0m

[lovuian]

98. You know what would be Nice is to know and hear testimony

of the soldiers who were on that plane

They got an interesting view maybe even video tape from an aerial view

of the damage done to the Pentagon

how much ya want to bet they had a video camera on that plane so they could relay information to the Generals

Whats its capabilities ???

Did Congress or the Commission even ask the questions???

[Phrogman]

100. I'd like to know why a plane that expensive would be in the air during an "attack"?

If I'd been the pilot I might of thought to get out of Pentagon airspace before the AA fire intended for the attacking AC hit my plane.

I would think that this would just be common sense.

[lovuian]

110. I agree that makes sense I nominate Phrogman to be

head of Homeland Security he has real potential

[defendandprotect]

99. Is CNN trying to openly defy Bush/Cheney . . . . CNN isn't going to be loved by WH for this -- !!!

[wildbilln864]

101. And check this out......

link
:hi:

[orleans]

103. i'd recommend but it's been too long. i'm recommending in spirit! n/t

[wildbilln864]

111. kick! n/t

[baldguy]

115. An E4-B was over DC

Was there another over NYC?

[bdamomma]

118. that was probably the Bin Laden family being flown out.