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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 12:02 AM
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Van Jones' Netroots Interview: It's Different When The Missiles Are Coming Over The Horizon At You
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Van Jones To Netroots: Quit Beating Up On Obama
Christina Bellantoni | July 23, 2010

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"I can't stand it. President Obama volunteered to be the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg," Jones said at Netroots Nation while being interviewed by journalist Ari Melber of The Nation.

Jones, who resigned last year after conservatives targeted him as an extreme leftist, refrained from any Obama-slamming of his own. Speaking to a large second-day crowd, Jones reminded the group that he quit and wasn't pushed out. "I resigned. I did not want to be the banana peel that the president of the United States slipped on trying to win on health care," Jones said.


He cautioned bloggers from despairing and going after Obama. "This is harder than it looks. Having spent six months in the White House, it's a totally different experience when you're sitting there and the missiles are coming over the horizon at you," he said.

While some expected Jones, now with the Center for American Progress, to go after the administration for failing to get climate change done this year, he said he thinks it still can be done.

Full piece:http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/van-jones-to-netroots-quit-beating-up-on-obama.php


Sherrod Is 'A Teachable Moment' About Hope

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Although his speech was tinged with moments of humor, satire and a call to positive action, it was in the question and answer session (which begins about 30 minutes into the below video) with Ari Melber that things really got heated.

Given that the week's news was dominated by the story of how Andrew Breitbart used a deceivingly edited video to target and smear an African-American Obama appointee, Shirley Sherrod, in an effort to portray her as a racist and a threat to white people over whom she, as a member of the Administration, could exercise power, Melber saw some obvious parallels between Sherrod's experience and Jones' before he left the Administration. And, true to the Netroots Nation reputation, Melber minced no words in asking Jones to talk about how his race, and Sherrod's, made them targets for the right-wing smear machine. Jones, however, drew distinctions between his experience and that of Sherrod's -- and then noted that, with the rise of social networking and the amount of information out there about anybody, he and Sherrod wouldn't be the last to be targets. In fact, he expects about 15 percent of Americans to have an experience similar to his, in which something that someone else finds out about them online will impact their jobs.


Melber: The White House doesn't want to say it, the media, most people in the media don't want to say it. So I'll say it. You were targeted because you're black, because you're progressive, and because you lived a life full of work that was creative and experimental at times, which made it easier to smear you and lie about you. We're not here today to only focus on the past, but your experience, Ms. Sherrod's experience, and, as Rachel Maddow put it so well this week, the experience that will continue to repeat as long as we allow it to work. What can you tell us about what people can do to fight back? And what can the media do, in your view, having lived through this in a way that very few people have to suffer through, what can the media do to actually put facts first?

Jones: Well, first of all, I think we have to recognize that we are in a new world. So that people criticize the White House, criticize the NAACP, to criticize different news outlets. We've never been here before. You remember that 2006 was the first election that YouTube impacted with the "macaca" incident and George Allen. We're in a world where we've taken away our immune system, the old filters, the old gatekeepers, the old Walter Cronkites. We've banished them, but we don't have new ones, so we're in a situation without antibodies and so the information system has taken a huge leap forward but the wisdom system has not. The wisdom system has not.

So you can any data you want to about anybody at any time and do anything with it you want to. And people are now engineering viruses and pumping them into the body politic. And we don't have the antibodies yet. And it will be a long process. What eventually will happen, big picture, is that 5% of the country will have an experience like mine, lose a job because of something on Facebook or something, and then 10%, and then it will be 15% and then it will stop because enough people will have seen it and enough people had it happen to them to too a friend that there will be a completely different level of wisdom that will emerge in society. That's the long-term.

You see, you can have confidence in your country, you can confidence that we will adapt as a culture to these changes in the technology. In the short term, it will be tougher because there are financial incentives to be more shrill, to be more outrageous because there are more outlets so the people that scream the loudest will be rewarded in the short-term.

...

What I think I would say about the overall situation, though, is that this is a learning moment. And you're right. I had a much more colorful life than Ms. Sherrod. I mean, let's be honest: I was distinguishable as a radical leftist in the Bay Area when I was young... You've got to get up early, you've got to work weekends to be distinguishable as a leftist as a young guy in the Bay Area. So sure, it's easy then to grab stuff and to make people think that I'm somebody who's scary.

This woman is like Rosa Parks. This woman is as pure as the driven snow and she got slimed. And so, again, to be clear, people learned quicker. Luckily people could find the full video and audio, which wasn't as easily available in my case, that kind of stuff, and the thing turned around fast. So we have a happy ending.


Full piece: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/07/van-jones-full-speech-sherrod-is-a-teachable-moment-about-hope-video.php


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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 03:38 AM
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1. He's got a great sense of optimism and it's true this level of hyper ventilation can only exhaust ..
Edited on Sat Jul-24-10 03:52 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
itself. It's going to get better in time, there's a point of recognition where folks on the right will realize they've been part of a game. You can almost hear it in their voices on Alan Colmes's radio show(a lot better than Hannity and Colmes), in their voices you hear an element of is everything I believe wrong or at worst a lie. We're making breakthroughs we really are the truth finally will outlast. Great inspiring words at 14 minutes in, a lot more diplomatically put than first reported. Van is totally right it's always about what we can do first than expecting change to start in DC, it's always change from the people first.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 05:29 AM
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2. I was privileged to hear Van Jones speak
at the NAACP Awards.
Most impressive!

He could be President Obama's twin in many ways.

The ability to see a broad view of complex issues and articulate them in a way that is rare.

Excellent video.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 02:03 PM
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5. Is there a way to hear..
Colmes online,I listen to him on the radio already.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:47 PM
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7. Here's his website
I has links to his podcasts, videos, Facebook, Twitter etc etc...

http://www.liberaland.com/

:hi:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:00 PM
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8. I like your optimism, as well
Optimism is essential to be able to keep passion alive. Whatever that passion may be. I have found that it's easier to be pessimistic in the world we're living in today and often find myself struggling to keep it at bay.

Listening to commentators like Van Jones, Rachel Maddow et al and reading posts like yours help keep that positive spirit alive in these difficult times we're still living in.

Thank you.

:hi:
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 10:41 AM
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3. rec'd, favorited, tweeted, and facebooked
Everyone should listen to this.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 11:24 AM
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4. K and wish I could recommend again and again

Please take the time to read/view each link because he defines America.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-24-10 02:49 PM
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6. Love Van Jones who is a man of integrity
and honor..I cannot say that enough:loveya:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:39 PM
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9. Kick n/t
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