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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 10:56 PM
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Bob Schieffer - Hayward, Barton & The High Price of Gaffes
 
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 12:11 AM
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1. The danger for Obama is that no one is listening anymore...
..because they are either uninterested in the message, or simply do not believe the message. In either scenario, "the people" tune out, the leader loses traction and it is almost impossible to bring the people back to the party.

This spells electoral doom.

The only solution is either a change of leadership or a major change of policy direction.

P69
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 01:03 AM
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2. It's the other way around. Bob Schieffer needs to spend less time on TV.
And Obama needs to spend more.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 03:40 AM
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3. Bob couldn't get enough of W on TV though.
That old bastid is a republican hack.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 05:30 AM
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4. Actually, I don't think the president spends that much time
on TV, at least not delivering formal addresses. The problem is we have a 24/7 media constantly chattering away at us, and mostly with pure garbage. At some point, you just have to tune it out. Obama's recent speech was not particularly inspiring, but I'm not sure that's what he was going for. I think it was intended to be informative, as in explaining what's been going on, and what the plan is going forward. But of course Americans, with the media taking the lead, have to be bitching about something.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 06:49 AM
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5. Quite Insightfull
Especially the "pure garbage" comment from the 24/7 media.

Just yesterday I saw a CNN comment that the leak has to stop by August or it is all over for Obama. August is the date the relief wells are scheduled to be completed, not the date the existing well gets capped. Past experience with relief wells shows that it takes being in operation for a minumum of 3 months to get the pressure down enough to be able to cap the well (and that has been in shallow water). Chances are we are looking at next year before capping can occur, at best.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 07:30 AM
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6. Schieffer - performing his role as corporate media hack
These were not gaffes - a social gaffe doesn't last more than a sentence or two. It wasn't a faux pax; Barton didn't drink from the finger bowl.

Hayward and Barton are oligarchs who are so isolated that their actions and statements, perfectly acceptable in their own circles, seem shocking to the rest of us. I doubt they really even understand why anyone would be offended.

But Schieffer spends most of his time making this false equivalence that somehow the President is in the same category this week. His regrettable deed? Trying to communicate too much (perhaps especially with the "small people").

To argue whether he is or is not on television too much is to accept Schieffer's premise that somehow Obama is the same as the others. If you buy his whole argument we'll have an isolated and vulnerable President cut off from his support. The fact that Schieffer used the occasion of one mediocre speech to suggest that Obama stop trying says to me that he must be accomplishing more than we think.


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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:02 AM
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7. The "gaffes" Schieffer speaks of
are actually Hayward and Barton thumbing their noses at us to protect their own sorry asses.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 08:36 AM
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8. IF, Obama does fire Rahm,
and really takes our nation into a progressive direction, like FDR. Then his speeches will be devoured by a public starving to hear how corporations and the elite are going to start working for us. His re-election would be guaranteed. I realize that FDR did not begin his fight for the little guy until his second term. I don't think Obama will have that 2nd term without a major about face. IMO..
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 10:31 AM
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9. Bob is must avoid TV
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 11:46 AM
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10. This is what is wrong with your current media.
They can't criticize the Repubs without also criticizing the Dems. Even if there are NO comparisons, they have to come up with something. This is just absolutely stupid. No way one can equate Barton or Hayward's performance last week with Obama's speech. No way. So why does Schieffer make this leap? It's not just Schieffer -- they ALL do it. They cannot or will not criticize a Repub without also dredging up something that a Dem did wrong. Even if they really have to make a leap to do it.

And the President being on TV too much? Give me a break. Schieffer may be a hack, but he's just one of the herd. They all do it.
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