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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:19 AM
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TYT: Israel Flotilla Raid - A Breakdown
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx-pSkee9J0
 
Posted on YouTube: June 02, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
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Posted on DU: June 02, 2010
By DU Member: ejbr
Views on DU: 2658
 
And yet "the terrorists hate us for our freedom." Apparently, our freedom to make bad decisions.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:33 AM
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1. Disappointment. The US and Israel...fuck.
People were killed by Israeli soldiers they should be tried and convicted. This is intolerable. Disappointment no.2 in regards to the US government response to this.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:29 AM
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3. I'm with you! This is a moment of great disappointment in the response of
the USA.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:15 PM
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10. Cenk's New Blog: Israel Must Release the Full Raid Tapes
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 03:48 PM by ihavenobias
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:22 PM
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11. Thanks Tom...will totally DIG this. n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:37 PM
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13. It's quickly become the # 1 most rec'd diary at Kos today.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 06:54 PM by ihavenobias
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:21 PM
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19. Thanks, Tom.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 09:22 PM by Turborama
That's a great article and I'll use the sharing options to help it go viral, too.

Rec'd it on DK too, btw.

:hi:
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maynard32 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:48 PM
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36. Thanks.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:59 AM
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2. Bottom line: Israel has commited an act of war against NATO.
My suggestion: Yes, send more ships to sail through the blockade. However, these ships should be accompanied by NATO warships with orders to sink anyone that approaches them.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:50 AM
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7. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!!
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:04 AM
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4. International law allows the passengers to have weapons for personal defense.
So the knives and slingshots are not a real issue. Even handguns would not be an issue. So knives poles and slingshots are a no brainer. The violence was so preplanned. The Israeli soldiers had to be shot with their own guns.
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Tommykun Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:10 AM
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5. Zionism...
The US's history of backing Israel no matter what crimes they commit is horrid. Even the people who inadvertently funded the founding of Israel (such as Einstein) have said that Israel should not even exist according to the Torah. The Jews were charged by Yahweh to move into the Gentile nations and live with them, period.

All it is, is the far Christian right wants to cause the "end of the world." If Israel is allowed supreme power "Christ" is supposed to return and all that bull. Nonsense. We should use all our capabilities to see that Israel is prosecuted for their actions against the Turkish people and the protesters on that boat.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:50 AM
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6. K & R #10
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 02:44 PM
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8. Good analysis. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:06 PM
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9. BRAVO!
This should go viral. The best rundown I've seen in all these days, bar none.

Well done, Cenk. It doesn't get more clear than this.

:applause:
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 07:42 PM
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31. amen to that!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 04:45 PM
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12. Kick n/t
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deconstruct911 Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:05 PM
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14. lol
But it wasn't a "peace boat".
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:09 PM
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15. K & R !!!
:kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:39 PM
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16. K&R
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:30 PM
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17. fabulous commentary - kick and recommend
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:17 PM
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18. K&R Thanks for posting n/t
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JohnnyHardhat Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:35 PM
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20. Very good summary
Once again Young Turks gets it right and breaks down the issues in a smart and fairly unbiased manner. It is appalling that the US can stand by and look impotent in the face of extreme and illegal Israeli actions. The US response was infuriating and major cause for concern. For some reason we are unable to criticize Israel in any way even when their use of force against untrained civilians is disproportionate and extreme. Its a sad week for me because I actually held out hope that this administration might finally act responsibly with regards to Israel.

You want to know why the Middle East hates us? No? You already know? Ah! of course... Israel. As the largest recipient of US aid and military, Israel is viewed as a satellite country, or proxy, of US policy in the Middle East. Their atrocities are our atrocities. The leaders, or dictators, of Middle Eastern countries use the Palestinian issue to deflect their own citizens from looking internally and criticizing them. They rally their populations around the international issue of foreign aggression and oppression. Its their way of staying in power. If there were no issue with the Palestinians many regional dictatorships would find themselves without an outsider to point to as the cause of all things evil and most likely face opposition from within. The US and Israel would no longer be the bad guys. However the US is holding all the cards for peace because we are the only reason Israel acts in the manner it does. It would be totally isolated, and much more vulnerable, without us. They might actually have to try to play nice with their neighbors if we cut them loose. We are like the big guy who holds someone down so the little guy can punch him. If we can't be openly critical of Israel at times like this than all hope is lost on finding peace in the region.. and peace for the US.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:23 PM
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:35 PM
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22. knr - we need all the tapes! n/t
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:36 PM
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23. Importand Piece! Sharing. K&R
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CyrusV Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:41 PM
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24. Great commentary. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 01:36 AM
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:40 AM
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26. K&R and bookmarking!
Thanks so much for posting this! Finally, an account of this tragic incident that we can trust to be accurate and unbiased... ;) :thumbsup:
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:41 AM
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27. K and R
The tide of public opinion is turning against the state of Israel, I think mainly because of their apartheid and the fact they think they are above the law.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:39 AM
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28. I believe Cenk is trying
his best to remain objective in reporting this.

I want to be correct in my own judgment of Israel's actions. When I think of Israel I don't want to have a knee-jerk reaction to what I hear in the media. That said, it seems to me that the U.S. goes overboard in their support of Israel even when Israel is in the wrong. I can come to no other conclusion.

End times scripture should have no bearing on U.S. support or condemnation of Israel's actions. Unfortunately these disputed scriptures do influence many. This is why we should always be enthusiastic supporters of separation of church and state.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 11:57 AM
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29. I love that David and Goliath jibe.
It's deliciously ironic.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 05:16 PM
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30. Great coverage.
I'll say it again, the only investigation they're going to do is to find out how many bullets were fired so the U.S. can promptly replace them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 09:19 PM
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 10:13 PM
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33. Powerful !
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 11:51 AM
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34. kick !
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maynard32 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 12:47 PM
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35. Cenk is a great analyst. If only Obama had people like him in the white house.
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