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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 02:14 PM
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Naomi Klein on BP Oil Spill
 
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Naomi Klein talking about how people in the area want action and not rhetoric and speeches. People confused about why BP is in control of the cleanup and Obama still is trusting in industry.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 02:23 PM
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1. So the residents of the gulf are ok with their employer when everything is fine.
Go to work in the oil industry, get paid, buy your boat, drink your mint julips on the weekends.

But when their employer fucks up and ruins the environment the government is responsible somehow. Don't want government run healthcare, do want government run disaster clean ups. Don't want government regulation of financial industry, do want government handouts when their employers fucks up.

Can't have it both ways people.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 03:00 PM
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2. Blanket statements-sorry, but they don't work
Edited on Sat May-29-10 03:00 PM by Lorien
we have plenty of gulf state residents here, and we've ALWAYS fought against drilling and FOR clean, green energy projects.
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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 03:12 PM
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3. Who work in the oil industry? n/t
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 11:03 PM
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8. My apologies. Just commenting on what I know of tea bagger and rethuglican politics.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 05:22 PM
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4. Huey Long where are you? Arrest BP execs and torture them for the truth huh.
Really, what's wrong with seizing the company and freezing all assets declaring a national disaster until the situation is under control, especially since the entire disaster was preventable if safety measures had been in place. A foreign oil company destroys our gulf and are free to roam about undamaged. I am not so understanding and am mad as hell as I'm sure most of the nation is also at watching our oceans be destroyed before our eyes by greedy men.

No I don't want Obama to attack England like Bush did Iraq for much less reason but I do want him to destroy BP for reckless endangerment due to greed and carelessness.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 05:49 PM
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5. I'm with you. How does BP come to own the entire ecosystem??
Now they're back to stuffing it with golf balls again? Are they kidding? Do they know what they're doing at all?
The whole thing should be yanked from their hands. They have proven to be useless, greedy idiots who don't
give a damn about our oceans.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:21 PM
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6. Who else would be able to stop this?
nt
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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:32 AM
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10. yeah seriously where's jack bauer
when you need him. this is clearly a ticking time bomb scenario. there is plenty bp is not saying yet for economic reasons.

you know how the FDIC goes in and shuts down banks on Fridays? Why can't we do that with bp? Just round up the sorry lot of them and throw them in jail at least over the weekend? they do not add value to our society in any way and they've done permanent damage to our country on a scale that dwarfs anything but Reaganomics. Certainly it's beyond anything Bin Laden or his shadowy investors tried to do, and we tortured lots of their foot soldiers. To be fair, shouldn't we at least be torturing bp secretaries and middle managers?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:26 PM
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7. I wonder how Shock Doctrine ...
will play in the Gulf States? They'll soon be swimming in oil.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 06:32 AM
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9. Seems to me that since the days of St Ronnie, the government has been
increasingly disempowered, and people have put blind trust in these corporations, somehow mistakenly believing that they will do the right thing. Then, when things go terribly wrong, we expect the government to fix it, and fix it quickly. I put the blame for this catastrophe primarily at the feet of BP and the oil industry. I also blame the fact that we've had 20-30 years of policy (primarily driven by Republicans) which allows huge corporations to operatein regulation/oversight free zones. Frankly, I don't think ANYONE knows what the "f" to do with this spill, especially as long as the earth continues to hemorrhage oil. And, who has the kind of resources or even know-how to contain and clean up a mess of this magnitude? I think most Americans believed that if private industry made a mess, they would know how to clean it up, and had the resources to do so. Unlike FEMA, who knows how to handle the aftermath of a natural disaster, we don't have a government response agency to deal with a huge oil blowout deep in the ocean. I am sooo angry, so sad, so frustrated, I could scream.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:58 AM
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11. Angry right along with you, spicegal, at the same time, re-directing -
De-regulation with no campaign finance reform contributes to the corporate state and how weak the Obama Administration is in reaction to a national disaster.

So, I'm gonna say again what I've said on NUMEROUS other threads.... Why can we not take the advice that we nationalize the clean up and get ready to perp walk BP's "administration". By nationalizing the awful collection of contaminated oil, I refer to at least a plan to place an international call for the aid of existing super-tankers (apparently, 24 of them are in existence) that are capable of sucking up a large percentage of this oil. How bad do we have to let it be?

Weak response thus far, Mr. President. As Klein said, this is a national disaster.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:40 PM
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12. Thank god someone else is talking about this conflict of interest, this idea
that a free market incentive to stop the oil automatically guarantees that an optimal solution is in place is complete fantasy. Fortune 500 is NOT a better government than a government by the people for the people.

Obama has this utopian dream of a corporate/government partnership solving difficult problems with MBAs and shareholder pressure for quarterly profit up 5% over the previous quarter. This along with idea that a perpetual state of war is necessary makes him no different than the 1980's neo-con. Neo-dems are putting their philosophies over the reality of this disaster. Rewarding BP like they rewarded Wall Street for catastrophe.

The neo-cons have moved farther to the right, they are now similar to the civil war secessionists. Dems are now a neo-lib/neo-con hybrid monster.

BP should be impeached and removed from the executive office.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:51 PM
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13. I am constantly amazed...
I have seen countless videos of law enforcement officers getting all over people who peacefully gather and create violence, beating on, shouting, causing bloody injuries and arresting. But those like BP can actually cause all kind of illegal crap and not a cop comes knockin'. So sick of it.
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