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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 05:18 PM
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Dean at Princeton discusses varied reasons for teaparty movement.
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He points out that it is an anger that they are being "left behind" as the country's make-up changes.

He calls it a very complex movement.

Driving force behind them is not about "big government taking over your life". It is about anger. They have a different kind of president than they have seen before. Many are out of work, don't have high education levels.

He says by 2040 the country will have a new "look" so to speak. Says for the folks in a movement like the tea party this is a whole new concept. They are going to be in the minority. They feel powerless as people usually do in bad economic times. But this subset of the population has been in power for over 250 years.

Now symbolically they are not in power anymore. Their group is shrinking, and as it shrinks they are less empowered and they get angrier and angrier. Being motivated by really deep internal feelings.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:13 PM
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1. Educated, empathetic, compassionate, multi-racial....
='s the Democratic Party. WHY should we lose at any election, except for pockets of uneducated, selfish, sometimes-hateful old white farts? We shouldn't....IF we do our job of getting out the vote and spreading the good word...the truth.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:14 PM
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2. exactly! well said nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:54 PM
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3. They get angrier because they are being whipped into a frenzy.
Seems to me I was extremely angry myself for the eight hideous years of Bush and nobody gave a lecture about it.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:22 PM
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4. I think that is it in a nutshell. A this white woman is very glad that their
250 year reign is over.
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spandexfantastic Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:31 PM
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5. I'm sorry but...
poor whites have NOT been in power.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 08:07 PM
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8. Many think they have....vote against their own best interests.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:44 PM
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6. Well, I think Dean is wrong in saying the tea party
is complex and wrong in saying that the Republican Party is not motivating them. How could he say that when their leaders - governors like Perry calling for secession, McDonnell's deliberate racial divide in his weird observance day, Congresspeople like Bachmann, Boehner, and pseudo leaders Palin, Limbaugh, Beck (just to name a few) - are the very ones egging them on?

Maybe I'm hearing Dean wrong, but I don't buy it. I think even if Obama had become president in the halcyon days of 2000, these people would Still be besides themselves with rage, demanding their country back.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:56 PM
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9. The Teabaggers are a creation of the forces that want....
to destroy Obama, and any Democratic government.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/033110.html

The Teabaggers are people whose already existing racism and resentment are easily manipulated. And frankly, I think that sums them up.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 05:34 AM
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10. Now, that is a more honest assessment. Thank you.
And thanks for the link.
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justinaforjustice Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 08:04 PM
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7. Dean Really Understands White Working Class Dynamics.
One of the reasons I was so drawn to Dean in his run for the presidential nomination in 2004 was that fact that he understood the need to relate to the white working class folks, especially in the South. He recognized that he had to speak to the common needs of all potential Democratic voters, even the guys with the gun racks and Johnny Reb stickers on their pick-up trucks -- "Because their kids don't have health care, either". I was convinced that Dean had the capacity to awaken the poor, white working class to their real needs, to galvanize them to get beyond their Republican-fostered racism.

Unfortunately, thanks to the DLC Republidems, he didn't get the chance to do that in 2004. We need him to do it now.

Dean's understands that the motivations and composition of the Tea Baggers is complex, and, if given the opportunity, could channel at least a part of that movement into recognizing and acting upon their true interests. They have been screwed by the big corporations which are controlling out government too, but they blame their problems on "big government", not seeing that it is big corporations which have bought the government and have wrecked their worlds.

The left should be trying to educate the working class whites to our political-economic reality, rather than simply dismissing them. Much of their anger is valid, but the Republican corporatists and their media have been able to re-direct that anger away from themselves and towards the "liberal big government bureaucrats". Unfortunately, the right wing owns all the mass media and writes all the scripts for the "news". Thus we have Fox calling the shots for the Tea baggers.

De-concentrating ownership of the media and restoring the fairness doctrine (as well as preserving net neutrality) is crucial to changing that.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:15 PM
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11. Thanks for posting that! nt
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:21 PM
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12. I agreed with him 100%, and he gave more insight into Teapartiers most don't.
Although I still think majority of them are racist---but then again he says they are racists.
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