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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:20 PM
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Debunking Lord Monckton, Part 1
 
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He's everywhere on the climate denial circuit.
He's not a scientist. He's a classics major and journalist.
How is it that he's been able to sell himself to climate deniers as their number one spokesman?
First, like any good salesman, Lord Monckton knows his customer.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:41 PM
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1. Excellent. debunking of Monckton. n/t
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 05:43 PM by Ghost Dog
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:11 PM
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2. Monkton has to be a finalist in the "Upper Class Twit of the Year" Contest.
He's not even a "real" baron, his grandpa was ennobled for service to the Conservative Party. Christopher Hayden-Guest and Jamie Lee Curtis, now they are "real" barons and baroness, their ancestor was ennobled for service to the Labour Party! They don't dare use the silly thing, but Monkton, oh, Monkton, thou ancient scion of Britain's fairest blood. . . . balfry full of bats at the stately home and all.
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 10:51 AM
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3. He's an ELITIST!
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Rubble Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 12:49 PM
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4. this global warming scam is just a ploy to enrich the bankers
Cap and Trade schemes will also continue to keep the 3rd world periphery in poverty, and simply end up transferring 45 trillion dollars US to the private banks (including government central banks such as the Fed Reserve and the EU Central Bank in Franfurt that are actually privately held).

In addition, carbon allowances will be a huge source of speculation, just like oil and other commodities became after the ban on non-hedgers was lifted in 1993-94 under Robert Rubin. This will drive up prices artificially to vastly over-inflated levels, and will have little effect on the reducing of so-called greenhouse gasses. The fascistic multi-national behemoth corporations will simply pay for the right to pollute, as they are ultimately owned and controlled to a huge degree by the very-same private banks who collect the carbon taxes.
They will also count on this increase in price of production to drive smaller competitors out of business via scale-of-economy brute force modalities. This will lead to further vertical integration and consolidation under the whipsaw of the bankers.


In closing, the disgraced scientist at the IPCC's chief center for research (University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit in the UK), Phil Jones, has been forced to admit to no warming over last 15 years or so, see -----> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html


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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 07:29 AM
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5. Rubble?
is that you, Barney?
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 12:44 PM
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6. Phil Jones said there was no Climate Change? Not quite...
Edited on Mon Apr-12-10 12:45 PM by booley
'Phil Jones, has been forced to admit to no warming over last 15 years or so

Uh huh. Except for one little problem. That IS NOT what he said.

Here's the ACTUAL BBC interview..

B - Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming

Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm

In other words, Jones not saying Global Warming Stopped or reversed. He was saying that it's too soon to say if the period since 1995 had significant warming compared to the previous decades.

You can only get that Jones is saying there has been no warming since 1995 by taking his words out of context and misconstruing them so Jones says something he isn't. Something both you and the Daily Mail do. (Just because Jones postulated on what it would have looked like if the MWP had been global doesn't mean he's saying it was) Indeed, i find it telling that the daily mail has so few quotes from Dr. Jones. We are largely left with the daily Mail's interpretation of what they think Jones said.

In short, you are lying. But please enjoy your tombstone.
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