Glenn BecKKK: "Let's Tear Down The Wall That Separates Church & State"

[Turborama]

Run time: 02:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho5wuRbTtzE   Posted on YouTube: November 28, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: November 28, 2009 By DU Member: Turborama Views on DU: 5190

 
I agree with the creator of this vid: "What a Lying Constitutional Propagandist!"

When was the last time a country was turned into a theocracy, Afghanistan in the 90s? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euJ8OYwC7_0">That worked out well for them, didn't it.

[Catshrink]

1. Wait. I thought he said he loved the Constitution

and that we libruls were trying to destroy it. Maybe, like Boner, he hasn't read it lately.

[robo50]

2. Beck has to find the bottom feeders to keep his

audience.

He must be losing ratings to go so low.

[sasquuatch55]

44. Alright; that's enough; time for this idiot to be gone!

nt

[bluestateguy]

3. Careful what you wish for Glen

A lot of Southern conservative Protestants would agree with you, that we are a "Christian Nation", but they would also say that your Mormon faith is NOT Christianity.

[heliarc]

34. Glen will have to answer to the Dept of Hinduism

It's ok... Monotheism is not really a rule anymore in America when the Wall between Church and State gets smashed

[Enthusiast]

36. And they also claim

Catholicism is non-Christian.

[theoldman]

4. I can pick and choose words or events and have them mean anything

I want them too. Notice that Beck failed to mention that Jefferson was what I call a near atheist. Washington was not very religious either and said that his beliefs were no ones business.

[WCGreen]

20. Actually, they were deists, they believed in a creator god but did not believe

that this creator god took any notice of the goings on of humans...

Or as the the Internet Dictionary wold say...

The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation

[SkyDaddy7]

40. They were Deist!

[SkyDaddy7]

39. Does Beck know what Jefferson did to the Bible?

If American was founded as anything it was as a Mason Nation...If I am not mistaking our Constitution is based off the Mason's Constitution or bylaws. Basically they acknowledged a deity and that was it for religion. I would love to see what many of them would say if they had the knowledge we do today of the natural world.

Everytime I read a book about early American History I always wonder what the founders would think if they could see America today...Especially our new President!! Now that would be a "priceless" moment to see the look on the founder's faces as they walk into the Oval Office! What would be even better is to have Jefferson tell Glenn Beck he is an idiot while on FOX News breaking the hearts of so many Tea Baggers!

[me b zola]

5. What an idiot,

Clearly Jefferson wanted the separation of church and state. I find it hard to believe that Jefferson would have created a presidential seal that had an image of moses on it. Could it have been a judge holding a law book?

[AlbertCat]

47. What an idiot,

With no understanding of history. He might remember dates and names, but simply doesn't get what the world was like in the 18th century. If he did he would know that a "Christian nation" back then meant a king ... appointed by god to rule... like, y'know, George III... whom we created this nation to get out from under. The very idea that America is a Christian nation is absurd and ignores the whole point of the Revolution.

[CJCRANE]

6. Please Make It Stop.

[Speck Tater]

7. Then we can make it a federal offense to be a Catholic or a Mormon. nt

[zeemike]

8. Yes and those seventh day adventist go to church on Saturday

That has got to be a crime.

[dhpgetsit]

9. Yeah! Theocracy is cool!

While we're at it we can have and INQUISITION an TORTURE lots of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and most of all, Atheists! But wait! Will it be a Catholic theocracy or a Protestant one? Baptist or Lutheran? I'm sure Headwreck will know what's best.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

13. Headwreck

That's a perfect description of Beck. Also like Olberman's "Lonesome Roads Beck."

:evilgrin:

[Angry Dragon]

14. I have been thinking lately that the best religion

would be the religion that was here first. The Constitution talks of nature's laws and nature's god so it makes sense to me that the American Indian religion (I have read that they really do not feel that they had a religion but a way of life) should be the nation's religion if that is what they want.

Where we would live with nature and respect it, respect others, just live our beliefs.

[Bette Noir]

19. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

But, seriously, cooking with olive oil was a capital offense in Spain at that time. Good, honest Christians cooked with lard, so the scent of olive oil coming from someone's house at mealtime was the mark of an unconverted Jew or Muslim.

Beck's obviously not thinking, if this is what he's advocating. For one thing, the Mormons would be the first targets of an American fundamentalist theocracy.

But then, he is the biggest douche in the country.

[dhpgetsit]

27. And bathing too often was a sure sign you were not with the church.

The Moorish culture taught people to wash themselves daily so the church took a hard line against cleanliness.

[rpannier]

38. It goes deeper than that

Many people dumped their sewage into the rivers and streams which made them badly polluted.
Many people got sick and died from water that was not heated.

[AlbertCat]

48. It goes deeper than that

It was also practical.

Imagine having to fetch the water from a river or well or the pump outside. (8 lbs a gallon). Now you have to heat it....with a fire. Gather that wood! So you're ready for your bath.....in a house with no central heating and it's winter. You're now wet and your hair is wet and you get pneumonia ..... and there are no antibiotics to take so you die....

There....the bath before plumbing and decent medicine in a cold climate....

In warm climates people bathed regularly usually outdoors in a pond or stream. Of course, if you can't swim and there are gators around, best to make it quick.

[jwirr]

10. Okay idiot Beck just exactly which religion are you proposing to force

on each and every person in this country? If we do not have separation of church and state then we have what England has - a state church. There are any number of denominations in this country and Beck belongs to the Mormon church. Beck do you think that the rest of us are going to lay down while you force your Mormon ideas on us? Or since many in congress seem to be Catholic are we all going to go back to following them?

Beck you need to read some history - many of our descendants came to this country to escape religious persecution and/or being drafted into armies to support some church related takeover. Like you I have done my genealogy and all of mine came for those reasons. They wanted to be free to worship as they wanted to without the interference of government. Hence the idea of separation of church and state was a top priority for our founding fathers. We do not want to go back to the endless religious persecution and we especially do not want to go back to the endless wars that resulted from it.

Beck why would you want to go back to that? Could it be that the Mormon church is positioning itself to take over the government? I happen to know that there is a believe that they are destined to take over when the government falls as one of their doctrines. Is that what all your blathering is about?

I will tell you and your people where to go because I will NEVER follow you and your idiots - period.

[AsahinaKimi]

11. I rather rip down the walls

At Fox News.. Let Glenn Beck do his show from a shed in the rain and snow.

[Ian David]

12. Shut-up, Glenn Beckkk and watch this: Columbia Dies over Texas: story by radio host Thom Hartmann

Columbia Dies over Texas: story by radio host Thom Hartmann
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x132506

[Grassy Knoll]

15. Who gives a fuck.......

This is very old history, and he's just ginning it up again, what a fucktard.
Glenn's grandmother should have never given him the tongue, or sat for a prolonged
time on grandpa's lap.

[newmac]

16. Just who is giving this uneducated diarrhea mouth airtime??

What small band of corporate white men in suits; is giving this freak the airwaves?

[tomm2thumbs]

17. I guess the Supreme Court will have a little sumpin' to say about it

The Constitution is always only quoted when convenient by the nutjobs - just like they pull selective quotes from the Bible or Book of Mormon... just when it works for their argument - otherwise, forgetaboutit.

[Cha]

18. Fucking hypocrites...use "church" like a crutch

to brainwash the brainwashable.

[RedCloud]

21. Correct! Tear those walls down but put up force shields!

Time to go new tech anyway.

[tomm2thumbs]

22. from Snopes on the subject...

although many of the inscriptions associated with the Washington Monument do indeed include religious references and sentiments, they reflect the tenor of public thought in mid-19th century America, not the America of George Washington's time. Washington died in 1799, and the country he helped found was a very different place half a century later.

[Fridays Child]

23. Lincoln was one of our founders?

Cool! Every time I hear Glenn BecKKK, I learn something new.

:eyes:

[AlbertCat]

49. Lincoln was one of our founders?

18th century


19th century


it's just one more. What's the difference?

[snake in the grass]

24. Once again, Beck fails as a historian.

He seems to imply that the founding fathers built the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument">Washington Monument and included the "Praise God" inscription as a testament to their faith in an attempt to support the fallacious notion that our republic is based on so-called judeo-christian principles. The truth is, construction of the Washington Monument began nearly a half a century after Washington's death and was completed well over a century after the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Beckerhead is going for broke with outright craziness and his disciples won't make the effort to find out the truth as long as his gibberish fits their narrow-minded agenda. This is what 30 years of fund cutting in education has brought us.

[Mythbuster]

25. I wonder if this fucking idiot has the common sense...

...to realize that those words didn't make it to the top of the monument until close to the end of the 19th century?? Also, it is the oldest monument he mentions. I guess him and his dumbass followers think these monuments were built by the founding fathers themselves. I would imagine that they are already planning the Palin Memorial Monument... it will be a statue of her standing at the base of the planned "bridge to nowhere" squinting to see Russia with one foot propped up on a dead moose.

[Angry Dragon]

26. I wonder if he knows

that one of the ten commandments is "Do not bear false witness" I think it means do not lie.

[Mythbuster]

28. Here is a really interesting link about the founding

fathers and their religious beliefs.

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html#washington

[Turborama]

29. That is a very informative link, thanks for sharing it

And a belated welcome to DU :hi:

[Mythbuster]

30. Thanks for the welcome...

There are a few good quotes to have on that link.

[Moostache]

31. It BURNS.....arrrgggghhhh...get it off my screen!!!!

Teh Stoopid is not to be handled carelessly, lest one may be infected by it; much the same as those who see too much sex education or universal human rights might catch Teh Gay too...

I am reminded of Jack Nicholson in "As Good As It Gets"....'go sell crazy next door, we're all full here...'

[FormerDittoHead]

32. What I found interesting was that it was supposed to be funded by private charity, but FAILED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument

Right wingers would have you think that private interests are more efficient and effective than government, and that Americans are the most generous people on the face of this Earth. (I love that expression "this" Earth).

This argument is intended to imply that gov't run welfare / assistance programs are unnecessary. That if you simply wiped out all of those "Robin Hood" programs, where gov't "skims 60% off of the top", then people, having their money in their pockets, would be able to donate it to the various charities and causes which would make our society work.

Problem is, that's a lie.

And the Washington Monument is a classic example of that lie.

TWICE private, donated funds were sought for its construction - TWICE the money ran dry and the "evil" government had to step in to get the job done.

I should point out two other interesting things:

1) The tablets which appear inside were inscribed with what the donors wanted.

..One from the Templars of Honor and Temperance stated, "We will not buy, sell, or use as a beverage, any spiritous or malt liquors, Wine, Cider, or any other Alcoholic Liquor."

So for a tablet inside to reflect Beck's revisionist reality is not a surprise.

2) But by far the truly, most interesting dimension of the monument is the conflict and controversy which the monument was built upon. The Wikipedia article has the summary in just a couple of paragraphs, but I think the real lesson here is how right wingers, in league with those who don't accept evolution, look for simplistic themes for things.

In this case, Beck would have us believe that the Washington Monument was built with a united people (it wasn't, in fact the Civil War interrupted its construction), with a single purpose (funding methods changed numerous times) to voice a unified message. Again, the inscriptions on the stones were to serve the varied desires of the donors. For Beck to have found one stone with a message which he could vent with should come as no surprise.

[Enthusiast]

37. Excellent post! nt

[TankLV]

33. OK - I say we TAX ALL THE FUCKING CHURCHES, and GET RID OF "IN GOD WE TRUST" from ALL currency...!!!

AND the Pledge!!!

RETURN our country BACK to WHAT IT WAS before the 1950's!!!

How about THAT!!!

I say we come out SWINGING this time arounde!!!

[Enthusiast]

35. This is a dangerous man.

People believe this bullshit. And people could be persuaded to act on this belief.

[rasputin1952]

41. Franklin had some other ideas that flopped as well...

One of them being that the Turkey be the National Symbol. I think the Eagle is fine, but apparently Franklin got a turkey in Beck anyway.

The only "gods" Beck has are money and celebrity...both of which can vanish in a moment...and no too soon for this buffoon.


ETA: Jefferson was a "deist", while Franklin had serious doubts about the way god was projected by the numerous churches of the time. Both of them felt that people should worship, or not worship according to their personal beliefs. How Beck can twist this is beyond me...the man is an idiot.

[Wizard777]

42. I agree whole heartedly! We need to tear down that wall separating church and state!

Then we can burn Glen Beck at the stake for heresy. He's in league with the devil! Then we can build and even stronger wall between church and state. With a trench on both sides to prevent the church or state from using siege machines to tear it down. Beyond the trench we can dig a moat and fill it with piranha, great white sharks, and alligators. Beyond that we can lay mine fields. So of course we'll need some razor wire to keep them out of the mine fields. Hey! Let's throw in some tiger pits filled with bullet ants for good measure.

[soryang]

43. Yes let's go back to 16th Century religious warfare

Where each fractious faction had its own dubious theocratic theory to justify the killing of their fellow human beings.

[aquamarina]

45. OMG

He quoting from Dan Brown's book The Lost Symbol...

[AlbertCat]

46. Let's not.

[VPStoltz]

50. Let's not and say, "Glad THAT never happened!"

[20score]

51. Who knew you could combine the brains of Miss Teen South Carolina, with the social conscience of

Dick Cheney and the sanity of Caligula, and have it equal money?

[Nyquil Man]

52. Capital idea! Let's start by taxing churches.

What makes me think that Glenn Beck is A-OK with that kind of separation?

[Lost-in-FL]

53. BRING IT ON!!!!!

And with that...

1. TAX Religious organizations.

2. REGULATE church activities just like any activity by a government agency is regulated.

[insidejoke]

54. He's Right, We WERE Founded on Principles...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is the first sentence of the First Amendment of the US Constitution. No law ESTABLISHING or PROHIBITING religion...and no mention of Christianity or Jesus, huh?

Yeah, obviously that means the Founders intended this to be a fundamentalist Christian nation, but instead of writing that into the Constitution they hid it in the Washington Monument using a secret code that requires just the right combination of Glenn Beck and insanity to decode.

[ScottLand]

55. The poorest among us....

but they better not ask for health care.

[StreetKnowledge]

56. Who takes this clown seriously, anyways? n/t