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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:18 PM
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Pledge of Allegiance roots come from National German Socalist Workers Party?
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 09:28 PM by Quixote1818
 
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Anyone know if this is true? I have never heard this before but it sure sounds convincing.

On Edit. I just went to Rexcurry.net and it looks a little wierd! Not to say what is in the video might not be true.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:38 PM
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1. The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:56 PM
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3. Yeah, what he seems to be saying is that Bellamy influenced the Nazis
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 09:57 PM by Quixote1818
I am not ready to believe this yet, but here is what he says:

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2. The original pledge began with a military salute that then stretched out toward the flag. In actual use, the second part of the gesture was performed with a straight arm and palm down by children casually performing the forced ritual chanting. Professor Curry showed that, due to the way that both gestures were used sequentially in the pledge, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute via the USA's pledge. http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:42 PM
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6. The obsession some folks have on the pledge is weird. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:40 PM
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2. Brief history of the Pledge of Allegiance

The original Pledge of Allegiance, "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands -- One nation indivisible -- with liberty and justice for all," was written in September of 1892 by Francis Bellamy for "The Youth's Companion" magazine in Boston. The phrase was printed on leaflets and sent to schools throughout the United States.
The first organized use of the Pledge of Allegiance came on Oct. 12, 1892, when some 12 million American school children recited it to commemorate the 400-year anniversary of Columbus' voyage.

In 1923, the first National Flag Conference in Washington D.C. voted to change the words "my flag" to "the Flag of the United States of America."

Congress officially recognized the Pledge of Allegiance in 1942, but in 1943, the Supreme Court ruled that public school students could not be forced to recite it.

The words "under God" were added in 1954 by then President Eisenhower, who stated at the time, "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag, of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation under God Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/usconstitution/a/pledgehist.htm
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:07 PM
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4. I was born 1941 in a German American community. I do not recall
ever hearing that or seeing anyone in our community use that solute. I do know that there were some people who supported the Germans - deuchland libre alus. (Sorry don't know how to spell the German language as we were forbidden from using it.) But for the most part we supported the USA and many of our young men and women joined the armed forces to fight against Germany. This sounds like rw propaganda to me.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:23 PM
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5. The more I look into it the more BS it seems to be, however I was just reading

some posts over on Amazon.com about a book that covers the history of the Pledge and it's interesting what he found. It sounds like it was the religious people who were the most upset about the Pledge early on and they were persecuted for not going along with it. Funny how today things have totally flip flopped:

http://www.amazon.com/Flag-Unlikely-History-Pledge-Allegiance/dp/0700615210/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

On another note, here is video from a movie of kids using the hands down salute in 1949: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA0A0ymd0CM&feature=related
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