Countdown: Turley on Terrorist Trials in NYC

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1. Peter Bergen, CNN

COOPER: Peter, Peter Bergen, what do you think is behind this decision to try some suspects in federal courts, instead of military commissions?

PETER BERGEN, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: Well, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh, the operational commanders of 9/11, is probably one of the easiest cases you could possibly imagine, because they -- they admitted the whole plot when they weren't even in American custody.

They went on Al-Jazeera. They gave two days of interviews. They laid out exactly how they planned it, how they communicated with the hijackers in the United States, how they selected the targets, how they trained the 19 hijackers. It's all out there.

This is long before they were in custody, long before anybody was coerced or water-boarded or any of the above. In a sense, this is one of the easiest cases in history to try. Jeffrey, of course, has pointed out all the various problems, but, from a factual point of view, this is extremely easy.

And, you know, we have had cases that are similar. The U.S. Embassy cases involved more than 200 people being killed, tried in the same courtroom. Everybody involved got life without parole. They ended up in Supermax, Florence, Colorado, prison, which makes Guantanamo look like a Sunday picnic.

And these guys may not end up in Supermax. They may be executed. After all, Eric Holder is going to pursue the death penalty with these guys.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0911/13/acd.01.html

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3. HOw soon before the people take the law into their own hands for lack of same in our elected

officials?  

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5. Judges Under Pressure

The judges in these trial will be under pressure to declare evidence as admissable regardless of the circumstances surrounding how the evidence was obtained. There is also the issue of jury selection. How many Muslims and Jews will be seated? Frankly, there is even the issue of the sustained torture and whether these people are fit to stand trial following that ordeal. Look for these trials to be a circus given the circumstances. The pressure for guilty verdicts and the death penalty is huge. These trials will not represent America's finest hour.

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7. $300 million.

LIPPOLD: We have already made an investment down there, not only in the court facilities, but the detention facilities as well, to an amount almost approaching $300 million.

BERGEN: Can I suggest a reason for that?

COOPER: Yes, go ahead.

BERGEN: I mean, there have been 800 detainees at Guantanamo, and there have been three convictions, which is a conviction rate of less than 0.5 percent.

Federal courts in major jihadist terrorism cases get about a 100 percent conviction rate. So, the military commissions just have been a failure.

Now, of course, Captain Lippold is correctly to say that improvements have been made. :spank:

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2. It's so crazy when some were already tried domestically under Bush they make it up as they go along

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4. Where are they coming from?

The GOP's shocking... I tell you....shocking outrage over this is not too hard to figure out. Other than trying to paint the Obama administration as weak on terror, it's not even about justice for the GOP screechers. It's about revenge. As we saw in the Bush administration, they don't have time for the "niceties" of law and the Constitution. (And of course religious fundie Joe Liebermann holds Israel more dear than the Constitution...so make of that what ye may) It's all macho and bottom line. Me me me! Juvenile.

Of course Rush had the most interesting and telling concern..... what will be exposed during trial about the illegal activities of the Bushies. What a doofus to actually state such a concern! Repugs are always projecting and giving themselves away.

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6. Going down ?