Lieberman calls Ft. Hood attack most destructive terrorist act on American soil since 9/11

[Amerigo Vespucci]

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"...but we don't know."

Sets the whole 9/11 thing up nicely, wrapping it in caveats like "it's too soon to tell."

Whatta piece of work.

[frazzled]

1. Terrorism is aimed at civilians

So whatever it is, it is not really terrorism, even if it was a politically motivated mass murder.

[MajorChode]

10. Good catch

I'm not even completely convinced it was politically motivated.

[burning rain]

22. Good point!

I'm not completely convinced the so-called victims actually were killed or wounded, for that matter.

[radiclib]

24. So..people were killed, the shooter's a Muslim

therefor it's so obvious the guy's a terrorist sleeper cell you don't even need the
:sarcasm: thingy? Is that what Pox News is telling you?

[burning rain]

25. Every good liberal knows that no Muslim would ever hurt a fly.

You're obviously the Fox-watching bigot. No doubt the same CIA agents who invented false stories of fanatical statements by Hasan cooked up a hoax of people killed and wounded, too.

[MajorChode]

30. It doesn't really matter if he's OBL himself incognito...

it still doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.

[burning rain]

31. Well, being rather strict with the meanings of words, I'm inclined to agree.

At the same time, though, language changes with mass usage.

[MajorChode]

32. It's hard enough to get a universal definition of the word in the first place

The only thing most seem to agree on is the intentional targeting of civilians for political purposes.

Of course the exception is Faux news. A local firing mortar shells in the green zone or someone who sets off an IED under a humvee is a terrorist per their definition. So it kinda makes Lieberman's ignorance a bit easier to understand.

[burning rain]

33. True, the real warhawks call it terrorism....

when irregular forces in Iraq (for example) take up arms and attack US forces. That's a very stupid corruption of the meaning of terrorism. Much as I hate to see US forces killed, I recognize that our forces in Iraq are unwelcome occupiers in the eyes of most Iraqis, and it doesn't pay to define our perspective as the only legitimate one for Iraqis. That's just thick, but what can you expect of warmongers. But, when you're dealing with an attack on US forces on US soil--unarmed and cooling their heels in a troop center, to boot--that's something that I'll bet most Americans will regard as terrorism if politically motivated, and an area where accepted usage will likely change, or at least be seriously disputed--and not just by warhawks.

[MajorChode]

34. Exactly. The problem comes in when you start calling everyone a terrorist

...and you have morans like Bush declaring a war on terrorism. So are we now at war with every potentially psychotic idiot who might someday wake up and decide to go shoot up a military base? As if we ever had a chance of winning a war against an asymmetric strategy (which was a stupid idea to begin with), now we must also win it against every dipshit who licks the wrong toad, picks up a gun, and goes off the farm.

[burning rain]

35. The likes of Bush never intended to fight a comprehensive war on terror.

That would have had us fighting not just al-Qaida, but Hamas, Hezbollah--hell!--the Tamil Tigers, various and sundry Maoists, any senescent survivors of the Baader-Meinhof Gang or Italy's Red Brigades that got a wild hair up their ass. In practical terms, the War on Terror rhetoric served to put us on a war footing against whatever predominantly Muslim country the war party wanted to move against (in the event, Iraq, and McCain certainly would have taken us to war with Iran had he won), besides keeping the US citizenry hyped up, and creating a milieu in which critics and opponents of war could be lambasted for caving or "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy. I really wouldn't be surprised if some of the more inveterate and demagogic warmongers slandered the president's plans for drawing down the Iraq War as a shameful and cowardly cave to Maj. Hasan's foul act.

[MajorChode]

36. I agree. It was really more of a political experiment

Terrorism has been used as a tool by America from its inception all the way to modern times. Bush's dad even used his political capital to rescue known terrorists from Argentina who bombed an airliner full of women and children and they still walk the streets in America free to this very day.

With every new presidential administration, there has to be political payoffs made to the base who got them there. Shrub's political payoff to the neocons was fufilling their dream of exporting democracy by force. Terrorism, or at least the irrational fear of it, was the trojan horse that allowed them to do it. It's pretty evil if you think about it much, but to the GOPhers, it was just business as usual.

[tomm2thumbs]

2. interesting

[OHdem10]

3. Inciting fear and anger among the citizens before any investigation

has been complete. Of course, the Hawks have to keep the
Terra thing going. War, War, War. There is a terrorist
behind every tree--War War War. Check under your bed, there
may be a terrorist there. Get those 40,000 troops to Afghanistan.

I respect the fact that there is a serious problem with terrorists.
It has been commented on by many knowledgeable people that the
Paranoia in WH during last administration led us down the wrong
path. There is a difference between rational concern and paranoia.

Keeping Americans all roiled up does no one a service.

[Deja Q]

4. Lieberman is a terrorist.

:popcorn:

[tularetom]

5. When I try to remember something good about bush stealing the presidency in 2000

I consider that it prevented this piece o shit from being a heartbeat away from the office.

WTF was Al Gore thinking?

[madmax]

9. I have asked myself that 100 times

WTF was Gore thinking!

[goclark]

16. I've always thoght it was part of a deal

There is no way that Gore would have picked him without a lot of pressure.

I think the fix was in from the beginning ~ LIEman was taking secrets back to the Republicans and the votes were fixed from day one.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

6. Bring on 2010 when he will no longer count and we can count him as a Republican , which he is.

[PatrynXX]

7. and non of the other soldiers throughout the decade were terrorists

lovely. single out the Muslim's. That won't sit well. Lets increase the amount of racism Joe go ahead.


:argh:

[Mithreal]

8. Why does this look staged or choreographed by Lieberman?

My wife says it sounds like propaganda.

If we aren't careful, Joe Lieberman is going to end up with more power and we are going to have a lot more fellow Americans terrorized by people like Lieberman and the fox "patriots".

[Frances]

11. I assume that Lieberman wants us to use this

incident to justify bombing Iran

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. How many people were shot dead during the looting in New Orleans?

These were civilians, some were looting, others were trying to survive.

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Umm, anthrax?

Total disruption of the postal service? How soon Lieberman forgets...

[KeepItReal]

14. Roger that. Congress and the media threatened. Postal Service on alert.

Guess that doesn't rise to the level of terror to Joe.

[sattahipdeep]

15. Think ya know what it's all about ?

Lieberman called the Fort Hood massacre an act of "Islamist extremism" - even as top Army brass warned Sunday against guessing at a motive, fearing backlash against Muslim soldiers.

An Army chaplain asked worshipers at Fort Hood to pray for the victims of the tragedy - and also for Hasan and his family.

"Lord, all those around us search for motive, search for meaning, search for something, someone to blame. That is so frustrating," Col. Frank Jackson told a group of about 120 people gathered at the post's chapel.

"Lord, teach us to love and pray for those who rise up against us and pray for those who do us harm. We pray for Maj. Hasan."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/11/08/2009-11-08_top_army_official_fears_retaliation_on_muslim_soldiers_in_wake_of_ft_hood_massac.html

FOX Interviews Major Malik Hasan's Cousin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ91hn_f6yU

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also INTO YOU....What did the Major know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv_I5VcgPcY

[madrchsod]

17. don`t look now joe but

your hatred of the arabs and islam is showing.....

[Piewhacket]

18. Lieberman is a terrorist, a traitor, the worst of the worst. What should be done with him?

[sattahipdeep]

37. No connection to terror groups or conspirators

A preliminary review of the computer of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the accused shooter in Thursday's rampage at Fort Hood in which 13 people were killed, has revealed no evidence of any connection to terror groups or conspirators, according to law enforcement officials.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/08/national/main5578580.shtml

[bluestateguy]

19. I guess VA Tech doesn't count

Or the 45,000 people A YEAR who die because of not having health insurance.

[ManicZen]

20. Sounds like .....

Someone who was under an extraordinary amount of pressure from the nature of his job, as well as the victim of constant harassment. My guess is that he is far less a zealot than someone who turned to negativity as an outlet for his helplessness. Strikes me as similar to the reaction of a student bullied who ultimately snaps. To label this as a terrorist attack is opportunistic and irresponsible.

I certainly do not condone his actions, and my heart goes out to all the victims and their families. Unfortunately as many try to understand and work to prevent occurrences like this there are many who will seize upon this to advance their own agenda. The truth is of course not relevant.

[Gman2]

21. Which state do we bomb?

[timtom]

23. He's shown himself over and over again

to be as stupid as Bush and McCain. He's a paid shill who holds no love for America.

[Zambero]

26. When President Obama advised not to jump to conclusions

He was apparently referring to kneejerk idiots such as Joe Lieberman, which is pretty much like talking to the wall.

[AsahinaKimi]

27. Lieberman is a hateful little man...

He should always go on Fox News to show people where his allegiance lies. (keyword: Lies)

[BREMPRO]

28. (I) for Imbecile.

[FarLeftFist]

29. When this happened I knew that ClusterFox couldn't wait

To put a terrorism label on it, their still pissed 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Isn't that sick, seriously, if you think about it Fox actually wants a terrorist act to happen on Obama's watch so much that they won't even wait for a final conclusion, just already giving it a label of terrorism. They want to be able to point fingers. Effin heartless.

[mzmolly]

38. He must have forgotten about the "Beltway sniper attacks?"

Strip that SOB of his chairmanship and let him follow his new party to their proverbial graves.

[reggie the dog]

39. I think Lieberman may be the presedential candidate in 2012 for the Republicans

[sattahipdeep]

40. Hasan Lawyer: 'Going to Protect All His Rights'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bIne_1zzU

[LynnTheDem]

41. Oy. What a total jackass.

Why do we have to be THAT much of a "big tent"???