Sam Keen interview with convicted murderer David Rice (parallel Hasan's thinking): Part Three (1986)

[hadrons]

Run time: 10:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qJprWzVY8I   Posted on YouTube: November 07, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: November 07, 2009 By DU Member: hadrons Views on DU: 342

 
From Sam Keen's "Faces of the Enemy" (Keen's work on examine the psychology behind enmity and war and the ways in which people dehumanize enemies through propaganda and bigotry) ... On 12/24/1985 David Rice tied the family up, chloroformed them into unconsciousness, split their heads open with a steam iron and "stirred" their brains with a knife. Rice targeted the family because he was told they were communists (the husband of the family was civil rights attorney Charles Goldmark.)

I uploaded part one and two earlier this week.

Despite murdering 4 innocent people, Rice sees himself as a good person who 'fights to keep people alive' (if Hasan really believes that suicide bombers are saving lives as he was said to have believed then in some way Hasan could have view his act as the same way as a suicide bomber or as Rice states)

Also, Rice was deeply involved in right wing groups that used the rhetoric of war and Rice consistently felt threaten and under seige (Hasan was exposed to endless horror stories of war and Hasan was the victim of anti-Arab bias and felt threaten and under seige)

Keen confronts Rice about his conflicted feelings about getting to know Rice as a human being, but at the same thing appalled at Rice's actions and lack of remorse.

Rice, in the closest to remorse he has shown, admits it would have been better if they hadn't talk (so he can view his victims as abstract 'enemies' and not humans)

Keen quotes Confucius and says if you want to change society 'start calling things by their real name' (torture instead of enhanced interrogation)


Here's part one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x397607
Part two might have been removed a thread, but here it is on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKDbb5CzCVI

[bertman]

1. The fact that this guy, David Rice, says he "fights to keep people alive" shows that he

is just a coward and a loser. He never FOUGHT for anything. He terrorized and murdered a helpless family in their home. That is a far cry from "fighting".

What a fucked-up excuse for a man!

[Voice for Peace]

2. thanks hadrons

I've seen all three parts, appreciate you posting them.