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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:23 PM
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TYT: What Will The Dems Learn From Local Races In NJ & VA? (Hint: go progressive!!)
 
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Don't run towards the middle, you fools.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:26 PM
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1. the Big Shot Dummies will Never Listen
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:42 PM
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2. I can almost guarantee that Dems will read the results of NJ & VA as just the opposite n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:45 PM
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3. That's what Cenk rightfully fears if you watch the clip.
Even more depressing is that Republicans NEVER do that. If they lose they go further and further right.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:21 PM
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19. AS per Arianna Huffington: Both sides learn to run to the republican base.
But only one side benefits.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:10 PM
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4. Rahm will read this the way he has always read it. "see I was right
we need to go more right", which to him is the center because like Lie-berman, at heart, he is a Repig. Why would any progressive become the grass roots
or even come out to vote for a dem who has said he is for all the things Repigs are for, as Deeds has done and lost and the reasons are obvious. O's intentions became suspect the moment he appointed Rahm to head up his team. These things do not bode well for Dems in the future. Many, like me, Those of us who became O's Grass roots after the primaries and banked and beat the streets for him because the alternative was just not acceptable are becoming disillusioned with the way things are turning out.
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:19 PM
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5. It's money in politics
When you're allowed to run a campaign because billionaires are willing to fund it (as long as you work for them)then you get DINOs battling fascists for corporate support and commercial media time.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:36 PM
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6. Tangentially -- does all the money voters are throwing at Grayson mean nothing...
to these people?

"It's your base, stupid"
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:43 PM
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7. DING DING DING! Phantom Power, you're our grand prize winner!
It's your base, stupid.

If there is only one thing to be learned from Obama's victory, is that you can't take your middle-of-the-road voters for granted. It's the voters who liked Obama (in combination, of course with those loved him) who put him over, and they're the same voters who eat away at his approval ratings because when they don't see Dems fighting for change hard enough. They're the ones who constantly need to be assured they make the right decision, and they constantly need to see the Dems standing up for themselves.


rocktivity
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DirtyJersey Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 PM
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8. Corzine ran as a progessive
So I'm not sure I understand this argument. Deeds ran as a moderate, but also in a more conservative state. I don't think we can draw any broader conclusions from this really.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:32 PM
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10. Lots of Goldman execs are progressive, right
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DirtyJersey Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:34 PM
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20. Regardless of his career background,
Corzine did indeed run as a progressive - he did not run to the center.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:44 PM
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21. Who would trust one of these bankers now?
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DirtyJersey Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:56 PM
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22. Nobody
That's probably a big part of why he lost. However, the problem wasn't that he ran to the center, because he didn't.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 02:07 AM
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24. Ok
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 04:01 PM
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14. Progressive?
Maybe a Goldman Sachsprogressive.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:32 PM
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9. Which he rightly adds makes it all the more important to turn out for TYT protests....
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:34 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
So Democrats don't get the wrong message and they can see on their TVs there is a pressence for the Public Option.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:54 PM
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11. Great report, Cenk.
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:12 PM
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12. k&r
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:58 PM
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13. Obama continues to move further to the right.
When will he learn?
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:06 PM
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15. K & R
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:26 PM
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16. Deeds wasn't the best we could do in Virginia-
We had two that were better than him in the primary- But all the Republicans came out and voted for Deeds.

Congratulations Rush- looks like Operation Chaos worked this time around.
Time for Virginia to adopt party registration for voters.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:16 PM
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17. On the down side, Deeds is a bum.
He took a dive. I worked the polls for him. I know. In my county the overwhelming majority of voters were mean old conservative coots who think dirty hippies and Negroes want to take all the stuff they can't take with them when they die, which will be sooner than later. The young and minority voters stayed home. Deeds did this by running as a Blue Dog. Hell, even DU has been running paid ads against him on this web site for weeks. His campaign was almost nonexistent. This is odd considering that the present Democratic governor of Virginia is also chairman of the DNC.

On the up side: Maybe this was a not so subtle message to Blue Dogs everywhere.

Back to the down side: Bob McDonnell is the most reactionary rightwing racist, religious fanatic of a loony misogynist to win the governorship in at least two generations.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:12 PM
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18. K&R
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:58 AM
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23. K & R
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