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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:41 AM
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Judge Throws Out Five Years of Juvie Cases in Scandal from in 'Capitalism: A Love Story'
 
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"I think it's really disappointing that so many kids would end up getting stuck in a terrible situation because someone else wanted to make money off of them."

This outrageous! I think the judge should serve all the sentences he meted out to the kids. All of them!! Consecutively!
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:47 AM
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1. Contemporary American capitalism is a terminal illness.
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HereinDC Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:53 AM
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2. Law and Order Episode 1 - 2009
This was the first Law and Order this year. Swoozie Kurtz played the judge
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:31 PM
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5. Luzerne County, PA.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 08:46 AM
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19. Judge Edwin Kosik of the US District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania
rejected their plea agreements, finding that the men did not accept responsibility and that the prison sentences were too lenient .


May they get life in prison.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:53 AM
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3. He sold kids into indentured servitude to line his pockets
He is worse than a pedophile and should be dealt with accordingly. 10 years at hard labor!!!
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:53 AM
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23. Damn, Art Imitating Life
Well, if you want to call it art--I saw an episode of a cop show that had this exact plot. A judge got a kickback each time he sent a kid to the slammer.

This is the prison industial complex, and rampant unchecked capitalism at work. Some call it the Legal industrial complex. I guess I'm stating the obvious, but just the same...
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:09 PM
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4. This was opportunistic corruption. I'm not convinced capitalism itself is evil, but some people
do evil things to make money- this type of corruption happens under all economic and political systems. The judges who abused their solemn oath by using these kids to line their pockets, and the owners of the camp that paid them bribes should face harsh justice.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 08:45 PM
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12. Capitalism is good but...
It has no place in the Correctional System or Health Care. IMHO
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:21 PM
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13. absolutely agree. We have 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners.
we have a prison industrial complex- profits being made by privatizing prisons- the same way Halliburton made billions on privatizing military functions. Our prison population is perpetuated by our tough on crime advocates and violators of petty drug offenses that fill our prisons. We should spend more money on drug rehab, counseling and education- instead we get the corporatist republican way of "lets see if we can make some profits off this" Whenever i see "war on...." (drugs, terrorism) or "privatize", i know it's just a front for corporate profits and republican campaign contributions.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:03 AM
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15. A good summary.
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audas Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:12 AM
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16. Take a look around you moron.
Capitalism is fcked - end of story. The only thing you like about it is that its the only thing you know and yeah fucken haa its American

It has destroyed society, the environment and put to death literally millions upon millions of innocents in the pursuit of greed above all else.

Bring back any of the dozens of social structures which preceeded it with pleasure- most ignorant comment ive ever read - you American ?
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:51 AM
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21. Wanna try and rewrite this gobbly gook and make some sense?
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hmorehead Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:52 AM
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22. Exactly right. Capitalism has no place where there is profit in mistreatment.
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silenttigersong Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:11 PM
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26. Just as ..
Bush and Cheny ,Rumsfield as well.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:01 PM
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6. Meanwhile in Arizona
Arizona may privatize it's entire prison system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/24/us/24prison.html?_r=2&hp

Funny how when there is a financial incentive to put people in jail, more people go to jail.

Almost as if the money was a motivator.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:06 PM
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7. When wealth becomes the ultimate goal
then things like honor, truth, liberty, and integrity become secondary means to the end. They are mere elements in a process, either usable or disposable, depending on time, place, and circumstance, and the ends justify the means. If you hit the wealth goal, you get a pass on your transgressions. Miss the mark, and you carry the full weight of all you do. Forgiveness does not come cheap.

If we are losing our civil rights, it is because we are losing our standing as civilians, a role we gave up to become consumers. Our value as civilians used to be the role we played in our own government. Participation - voting, civil service, military duty, etc - was once the stock in which this country traded. But a government "by the people" has become government that says "buy, you people!" and our standing now is judged by how much we spend. Corporations, and the uber-wealthy have the ability to spend more than the common individuals, and are judged accordingly.

Sure we have some consumer protections in place, but those are a poor exchange for liberties and rights. We are given a choice between candidates, but what influence does a vote have compared to a donation?

That this country was ever created, that men and women could identify the need for freedom from oppression, and find a way to create paths to that freedom when the common wisdom of the time would have bet on the established royalty, gives hope that this country can be saved. The establishment of today has better technology than of that era, but that also means the opposition has better technology.

The only thing we need is the ability to identify our need.

As consumers, perhaps we just need someone to package the truth and sell it to us.
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 07:04 PM
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10. We have devalued our very selves.
With demwing's permission,

"If we are losing our civil rights, it is because we are losing our standards as civilians,..."

Consumer stuff has become "Liberty", and the possession of that stuff is the only "Right" many are keen to defend. And so this has become a country of civilian consumers rather than civilian citizens.

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Beams1969 Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 05:25 PM
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8. There are just some things that should not be profit driven.
Health care, fire/police protection, prison systems, etc... Unfortunately, people don't always operate with pure motives, surprise, hence the need for government in the first place.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 05:32 PM
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9. What a painful way to be radicalized. I hope this sticks with them,
and opens their eyes to other injustices.

I'm ashamed of my country.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 07:30 PM
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11. I hope every kid sues the fuck
out of the judge and the prison owners.
If I was one of those kids I would have a hard time not hunting those judges down and causing them grievious bodily harm.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:20 AM
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14. I think life in prison for the judges and the owners of the facility is in order
Let them have the punishment that they visited on the innocent for the rest of their lives.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:32 AM
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24. +1 knr to the OP
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 06:44 AM
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17. both of these "judges" should be castrated with a dull butter knife.................
...........THEN, put them in the shittiest, most fucked up, dirty prison you can find. This is the kind of shit that's done in places like Saudi Arabia and third world shitholes. I was in a "juvenile system" in Ill back around 1963 and when you were under 18 YOU HAD NO RIGHTS. You were completely at the mercy of the "system" and believe me it wasn't as corrupt or evil as this shit in Pa. What the fuck have we become?
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 08:01 AM
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18. Children's Services is a Terribly Flawed system ...
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 08:04 AM by mntleo2
As I wrote in MadFloridian's diary, they (CPS) consider kids as mere chattel to be taken and sold. This isn't just juveniles, this is about little children too. It is nationwide to them, kids are either to be sold or used as pawns ~ because kids bring in money. From judges, to social workers, to adoption agencies, to attorneys and even the "volunteer" CASA workers, it is becoming a multi-billion dollar business.

Nationwide, they are known for kidnapping little kids from parents and relatives, making false allegations that cannot be reputed in any way, these allegations just stand. CPS workers are taking kids suddenly while refusing to acknowledge the permanent damage they do to the child, much less traumatize entire families. They seldom protect a child as much as financially gain from their actions. Furthermore they have more power than any police do as far as search and seizure with few repercussions when they are wrong.

These are not just unhappy abusers saying this, there are thousands of kids taken with little or no evidence or cause and juvenile courts support it. I personally know of at least 30 removals in the past year in my state (WA) where none of the families have ANY say in court. I am working with people all over the country and if any parent thinks it will not happen to them, they are wrong. Girls right now are at a premium for the state and bring in a lot of money for adoptees as well as from the Feds, little boys not so much, but as a "compensation" when they are taken, especially little boys suffer horribly in foster care. With an indifferent SW and State system that cares little about them except what they can make off them ... Oh sure they all pretend to "protect" the little children but in truth even good hearted social workers are used to kidnap kids from loving homes in order to make the State a buck from the Feds.

According to a former prosecutor in Oregon State, Roger Weidnen, there is money involved with each child removal that pays the States $5-$10,000 per removal. While this is an Oregon former prosecutor, this is happening all over the country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66u2Qot5Mbs This man was a Kucinich supporter and then when he dropped out, a Ron Paul supporter because Prosecutor Weidnen says that the *only* two true Constitutional legislators are Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. I have to agree (former Kucinich supporter here). Prosecutor Weidnen is treated like a kook because he stands up for Constitutional rights for all, not just the elite. What does this say about our judicial system when they denigrate people who stand up for the damn Constitution?

Here are some other stories, literally thousands of kids are taken and hundreds DIE while in custody with the State, while other kids are illegally taken, with few rights for parents and worse for relative or long term foster parents in the midst of adoptions. This is because every time a child is taken, money passes hands and there is a reward for taking kids. Here is a video with kids who have died with the names of hundreds of kids who also died under State care. There are three parts, and this is the first, but the other 2 links are with that video.

THIS WILL BREAK YOUR HEART ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48YF1uEuCUA

Below are some other links from parents whose kids were taken, more heart break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAjfTk1F1ts&feature=rela...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPeFECAEqHk&feature=rela...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPeFECAEqHk&feature=rela...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwaKGODNkCo&feature=rela...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAnjp7OnxNM&feature=rela...

Oh and the CASA workers not protecting kids as they are supposed to be doing, they are merely allowing themselves to be used as rubber stamps for the States, not the child. Because parental rights are more, (a good thing), it is worse when the child is a ward of the state and relatives or foster parents are in the midst of adoption. The adoption social workers snatch the kid after long term care and in essence "double dip" to get more money, and they are often personally rewarded with bonuses for their efforts. They can make allegations and there is o nothing that the care givers can say in or out of court in their defense, because they have no voice at all. These parents have *no* say in court or anywhere and there is no way to refute false allegations, which can remain on a person's record for the rest of their life. More often than not, the child is suddenly removed with little consideration as to the permanent damage that is done to them and they are merely dropped into another situation.

I have more stories, these are just a few. It happened to me as a relative care giver and it has severely damaged my whole family ~ but especially it has severely damaged a little girl who was doing fine until she was taken.

Cat In Seattle
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:31 AM
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20. kick
nt
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:00 PM
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25. Capitalism Not the Problem
A number of individuals are blaming capitalism for a number of problems for which capitalism is not the reason. It is not that capitalism that caused these individuals to do the things they did. The judge was paid a good salary in order to act as a judge. The owners of the detentions centers could have made money without paying a judge to send kids to jail who did not need to go to jail. This is a problem with these individuals. People would be able to blame the system if this type of behavior was okay. The fact that the sentences have been thrown out and the fact that the convictions will be wiped off the records of the jailed individuals shows that this is not okay in a capitalist system.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:40 AM
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27. Agreed!
Put him away!
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