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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:43 AM
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TYT: Obama Gives Up On Healthcare Public Option
 
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 04:49 AM
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1. He has not...nt
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 05:11 AM
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2. he has to prove it
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:05 AM
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7. Thanks to pressure from the left (like this video), the admin has gotten stronger.
Let's all keep that in mind.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 05:31 AM
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3. Cenk nails it
I have the feeling that the WH strategy sessions are now focussed on how to package this non-public option bill so to make it acceptable to the base.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:28 AM
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4. They're tying to pass something they can call "health care reform" without...
...rocking the boat with the insurance and pharma companies, and other general "pro-business" intrests.

They want the merit badge they can pin to their sash and show off, but doing that for real would piss off their real constituents, so we get this weak-kneed kabuki dance.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 06:39 AM
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5. I am beginning to think that is exactly the case - already sold out to pharma
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:46 AM
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10. Exactly. This is why they're just now declaring "WAR" after it's all been settled.
They're trying to show the base that they tried, but they just had to pass the DLC/sell-out version of the bill.

"What, is the "left of the left" gonna try and make this Obama's Waterloo, too?"

That's exactly what they're doing.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:04 AM
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6. K&R
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:08 AM
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8. Nice to see more of Ben, Great audio for a remote, Oh, and as usual -CENCK IS RIGHT!
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wreckedparty Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:16 AM
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9. Spin is always there.
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 11:17 AM by wreckedparty
Yep the spin is rampant. To disprove most of the spin from the right, heres an article with a bunch of talking points that are easily disprovable by reading the actual text instead of drawing conclusions. http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3962/pub_detail.asp.

I havnt seen many people advocate anarchy, but mostly a distrust in the government to do this correctly.

Personally i dont think this healthcare overhaul is going to do what its intended to do based on what ive read in the bill.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:56 AM
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11. Spot on! K&R nt
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:16 PM
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12. You can't call the Democrats in congress weak! Because if you do they'll ask you nicely not to say
that. But if you call them weak again - well, then they'll have to agree. K&R.

(Of course this doesn't apply to the Democrats with a spine. Of which there are many - just not enough)
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