AR-15 guy threatens to 'We Will Forcefully Resist'

[wndycty]

Run time: 03:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63GiXzpfGhA   Posted on YouTube: August 18, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: August 18, 2009 By DU Member: wndycty Views on DU: 2487

 
I posted this a few minutes ago and it didn't work.

[onehandle]

1. Again, Please do. Show your true face, gun nuts. nt

[Apollo11]

2. So it turns out that this guy is on the anti-Obama side

This guy believes that taxation is theft and government programs are morally wrong even if they have majority support.

He seems to believe that Americans should arm themselves and get ready to resist the will of the majority.

and the worst part is that the law protects his "right" to openly carry an assault rifle in public.

America is a truly terrifying country.


On Edit - he appears to be linked with a group of Ron Paul fans that have a number 4409 (Any ideas? President 44? 2009?)


@wndycity - why not edit your subject line and remove "2nd attempt"? It's confusing.

[peace13]

5. Too bad the Constitution didn't protect tee shirts during the * years.

How can we rationalize the fact that this is OK when our government kept people from attending events with * on the basis of apparel and party affiliation for eight years. We are still under the control of some evil dudes if you ask me, and I am not talking about Obama. The more I think about it the more it pisses me off. When Pickles came to town we were sequestered on a corner far from the action and when her motorcade went by it was the SS that pointed assault rifles at us from the tailgates of SUV's. What would they have done if we had automatic guns I wonder. This makes no sense at all.

[wndycty]

6. Change made. . .and thread title updated

:kick:

[dbmk]

17. To be a little bit picky:

There is nothing inherent morally right about something just because it comes from a majority.

But that does change the fact that this guy is an idiot.

Correct me if I am wrong, but was the revolution not essentially over taxation without representation - not taxation itself?

[peace13]

3. That little fellow is starved for attention.

His mother thought she needed to have a bowel movement and out he popped!

[Buzz Clik]

10. And mom was right.

[Xipe Totec]

4. Sounds like trason to me

"whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381

[Apollo11]

13. I would LOVE to see a prosecution based on YouTube evidence

But probably the guy would have to do more than just carry his gun in public - which is an implicit threat from where I'm sitting but apparently it's legal in Arizona.

[Xipe Totec]

16. It's his words that constitute treason

"We will forcefully resist people imposing their will on us through the strength of the majority with a vote."

That's a direct challenge to a dutifully elected government.

[Davis_X_Machina]

18. Not treason -- the only crime defined in the Constitution

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Probably not sedition, or incitement to riot, either.

The Brandenburg tests are 'intent, imminence, and likelihood'

The constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969)

Symbolic speech -- that would include the gun, if its possession was otherwise legal under state and local statues -- is covered, too.

Free speech is a bitch.

[Xipe Totec]

22. Read post #4

[Davis_X_Machina]

23. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now -- free speech is indivisible.

[BradXXX]

30. He sounds like an idiot to me

What a dream world this guy is living in; a modern society without any taxes.

A Ron Paul follower I imagine.

[tridim]

7. Sick people with massive firepower..

Using that firepower to project their sickness on everyone else. Just lovely.

Fuck you AR-15 guy, I'm not falling for it.

[Cass]

8. I'd say that DHS report about the RW extremists was right on the money.

This guy and the other teabaggers, turfers (or whatever the hell they are) are going off the deep end. This isn't simply about health care - its a collective right wing hissy fit that could well become quite dangerous if they aren't watched closely.

[Buzz Clik]

9. Attention whore. Nothing less, nothing more.

[HDPaulG]

11. Little man reminds me of

Carlton Banks of "The Fresh Prince of Belair"

[proud patriot]

28. Exactly

[sofa king]

12. I don't care what you guys think, I LOVE this guy.

Whether or not he's working according to a plan, or at the behest of shadowy organizations that do not ordinarily support our interests, this guy is doing our work for us.

As I have pointed out elsewhere, the Obama-hating storm troopers out there have one problem with the Second Amendment: it extends the right to bear arms to minorities, which secretly must deeply frighten them. Just seeing this guy walking around, looking smart and loaded for redneck, has probably already sent hundreds of potential Republican mobsters straight home to the safe couch and O'Vibely.

He singlehandedly splits the gun issue in a way that is sure to divide the RWAs, because if you take the racism out of the Second Amendment, it doesn't leave the knuckle-draggers with much to differentiate themselves from anyone else.

This is a development so fortuitous that it could be a plan. In fact, I jokingly proposed such a plan here at DU only days before this guy showed up.

[Apollo11]

14. I feel sorry for him

He has been brainwashed with right-wing nonsense and is bending over backwards to fit in with a bunch of Ron Paul types - most of whom are secretly white-supremacist sympathizers who 50 years ago would have been regulars at their local KKK meetings.

[drm604]

20. Loaded for redneck?

Watch it again. He's not "loaded for redneck". He's talking about resisting taxes and "watering the tree of liberty".

[sofa king]

26. Yes, and not one racist will believe him.

[Mr Generic Other]

24. sofa king, while i don't love the guy and tend to think he is a nut

i absolutely agree with you about the attitude that right wingers, of the ilk to protest health care reform, have toward extending any "right" to all people. they truly believe that everyone shouldn't be treated equally under the law.
maybe most americans don't really believe in equality?
in my opinion, this anti-human notion is sponsored by the way that american capitalism has kept working people fighting each other over too few scraps.
it is a divide and conquer strategy that has been well employed in america since long before the industrial revolution.
for example, poor, southern whites could be kept content, docile, and in their place simply through their knowledge that their lot was better than the enslaved. after the civil war, rather than celebrating the elevation of their fellow citizens, these people began to hate the former slaves. hate them for their freedom!
the same mechanism is at work today in america.
the stress related to economic insecurity makes us less human. rather than nurturing each other we have to compete. everything someone else gets is something we can't have. if we get sick or lose a job we need a large nest egg to survive (so we can't afford to be generous).
we are fragmented and incomplete and delight in other's misfortune as if it somehow means our success.

[taggline]

15. Folks...You NEED to pay attention

Put down the remote, the iPod, the inebriates, the whatthefuckever you're distracted by, and get ready...I believe we're on the brink of nutjob/moran violence. Fuck that punk assed AR 15 guy...Big gun little pecker/brain. Most of the idiots that are attending these Town Hall scream fests, don't even have a clue as to WHY they're there in the first place...(x-cept maybe it might be 'cuz of those little stipend checks they're receiving from Big Pharma/Insurance pimps). We are a nation of dumbasses...plain and simple. Bought and sold, with a fist full of gold...

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[drm604]

19. I think this perfectly illustrates what I said in another thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6333516

We lose an election and we post on websites, go to meetups, write letters to the editor, donate to candidates, organize, and register voters.

They lose an election, and they get out their guns.

So who is it again that doesn't believe in the American system?

[knixphan]

29. zactly.

[safeinOhio]

21. Terrorist

Plan and simper. Terrorizing a crowd with threats of violence.

[Crowman1979]

25. More like a Tom if you ask me!

[aquart]

27. What will he resist? Who is he threatening to shoot?

[Loudmxr]

31. Imagine this guy trying to go to a tea bagger meeting in the SOUTH!!

This guy just does not know who is dealing with. Mississippi, Alabama, ... OK and or Kansas or Wyoming. Try Hartford, Connecticut. Can't bring a cop every where? I think you will find a lot on your black ass FAST!! :smoke: