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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 10:02 AM
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Hunter Harrassment Case - First Amendment Violation
 
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Interview on Canadian radio, www.coopradio.org, Anthony Marr of Heal Our Earth, interviews Jan Haagensen, a woman who owns land in Pennsylvania and tried to keep hunters off her property.



Anthony Marr interviews Jan Haagensen about her court case with the state of Pennsylvania. She was given criminal citations for reporting to police that hunters were illegally shooting deer from their cars, saying that she was harrassing the hunters. The local courts convicted her. However the higher court overturned her conviction because there was no evidence. The case is being challenged as a 1st Amendment case and the whole Hunter Harrassment statute could get completely thrown off the books as unconstitutional, an infringement on basic rights of free speech.

The Pennsylvania police, state and local, as well as the Pennsylvania Dept of Fish and Wildlife and the Game Commission all conspired to silence Jan Haagensen from trying to protect her property and the animals on it from hunters. However they were in the wrong. They were not enforcing the laws.



Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p3VDIuwVVQ

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:06 AM
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1. More short peckered nimrods
feigning victimization. If they were shooting on to her property without her consent it's trespassing or assault with a deadly weapon.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 01:21 PM
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4. Hardly
She was bullied and her rights were trampled on. And she is winning in the courts.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:58 PM
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7. Nimrods
are hunters.
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:16 AM
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2. I live about 100 miles from Jan Haagensen.
She lives NW of Pittsburgh. I, ESE of Pittsburgh. I grew up within the city limits of Pittsburgh. I know this area and it's people very well.

Let me state at the outset that while I do not hunt, I never have, and I never will - I have no problem whatsoever with the sport of hunting being practiced in PA.....LEGALLY. Those hunters who do not follow the laws governing hunting should be fined and, if necessary, jailed.

This woman was WRONGED by the PA State Police, the lower courts, and the Game Commission. I hope that she becomes the biggest pain in the ass that these state troopers, courts, and game commissioners could have nightmares about! They abused her, they abused the law, they abused the court system, and they abused the citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And, because they cited her wrongly, the law they used to harass her is going to be overturned. And this serves her abusers quite rightly. These troopers and game commissioners should have been all over the hunters' asses for breaking the law, but they turned on this woman like rabid dogs.

In PA, you have EVERY RIGHT to post your land as a "no hunting" area. Once that is done, hunters may not enter upon your land to engage in hunting animals nor may they enter upon your land to drive animals off of your land and onto non-posted property - the act of driving deer being an activity of hunting.

I hope she sues the pants off of these over-officious assholes and wins enough money to buy entire SQUARE MILES of land around what she owns now and post it all - just to fuck with these jerks.

To those of you who hunt and do so legally, I have no problem with your sport and support your right to hunt game wherever and whenever it is legal to do so. Those of you who skirt the law while hunting or "cut a few corners" around the hunting laws - you should be banned from the sport. Hunt legally or not at all.

Celtic Merlin
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 11:32 AM
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3. Way to go, Merlin :-)
Way to go, Merlin :-) You go, Jan Haagensen, I'm glad she had enough money to go to court.

I also have no problem with hunting legally, provided people are allowed to hunt hunters as well.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 01:22 PM
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5. She should be able to get her money back
that she spent in court cases. In the complete interview, she mentions that the woman involved in the case has filed for bankruptcy in anticipation of having to pay damages.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:03 PM
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8. As someone who lives in a rural area,
I agree totally. A landowner has got to have the right to keep people off their property. We used to not care when folks hunted on our land--until the day they shot our dog and nearly got me because they were hunting too near our house (which is very obvious to see). After that, the Posted: No Hunting signs went up.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 02:25 PM
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6. Hunting
Thank you for posting this. I grew up in western Pa. and while The I never hunted much, My family hunted on our property because what were they to do with 7 kids in the fifties? This was in Hookstown about 6 miles from West Virginia, so there was plenty of hunting going on. We posted the property and didn't have any trouble. In defense of the hunters, I think that the area that is open to hunting is shrinking. That does not give them the right to hunt on posted property. I wish there could be some understanding between the pro and the anti hunting groups. In Pa. it is necessary for the deer herds to be culled or more trouble will follow. The problem IMHO is not with the hunters, but to the gun rights nuts, who feel some paranoia about losing their guns. That is a totally different argument. Real sportsmen would not hunt with the kinds of weapons these cavemen seem to want, and any that violate your property right should be punished with the same sense of justice as any other violent criminals. I hope you win big time, as the hunting of today is not related to what we did to feed the family.
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