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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 11:52 AM
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The CIA's Iranian Plan?
 
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Short video explores the possibility that the CIA is involved in Iran's recent election unrest.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22839.htm
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:14 PM
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1. It's all a Bush/Cheney plot!!!
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 12:15 PM by dos pelos
Twitter and youtube are CIA front operations!
These people in the streets are CIA stooges!
It's the Zionist/CIA/Bush-Cheney plotters at work!

The damned republicans did it.

Myopic dipshit fuckwad idiocy.

Too much of this thoughtless,reflexive,lame reductionist crap around here.
Sure,the CIA doesn't like the clerical regime in Iran.Probably,from the looks of it,most of its people
don't like it either.A lot of them are fighting and dying to change it.They WALK THEIR TALK,unlike most of the posters here.

They deserve the support of the American people and the equivocating,passive American government.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 12:19 PM
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2. Doubt the CIA is responsible...
Seriously, when has the CIA been successful at something in recent memory?

I think the Iranians are simply tired of their leaders. Is it not possible the Iranians are simply sick of being used?

The CIA is not responsible for every bad, odd or good thing that happens as many would like to think. But that is my opinion and it is worth about as much as anyone Else's.

GO GREEN REVOLUTION!!

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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:58 PM
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3. You take a real movement and push a little, it wouldn't be the first time.
if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right. Because all these decisions, all these decisions, once they're made if they work, then they weren't viewed as a crisis. If they don't work, it's viewed as you didn't make the right decision, a little bit like how we hesitated so long dealing with Bosnia and dealing with Kosovo, and consequently 200,000 people lost their lives that maybe didn't have to lose lives. It's how we made a mistake in Iraq. We made a mistake in Somalia. So there's gonna be some tough decisions. They may emanate from the Middle East. They may emanate from the sub-continent. They may emanate from Russia's newly-emboldened position because they're floating in a sea of oil."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/joe_biden_seattle_fund_raiser.html
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:43 PM
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5. I hear you...I just think this one is REAL...
I honestly think Ahmadinejad got a bit to big for his britches!!
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:48 PM
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6. Operation AjaxII? Kermit Roosevelt brought down Mossadegh in 3 weeks...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MinM/177

Democracy Now! All the Shah’s Men: An American Coup And The Roots of Middle East Terror
AMY GOODMAN: You are listening to Democracy Now!, the War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman on this 50th anniversary of the C.I.A.-backed coup that overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh. We're talking to Stephen Kinzer. He is author of a new book, All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror. In a minute, we're going to go to old film about the coup where former C.I.A. agents talk about their role in it. But talk about the man in the C.I.A. who spearheaded this, Kermit Roosevelt.

STEPHEN KINZER: One of the reasons I wanted to write this book was because I've always been curious about exactly how you go about overthrowing a government. What do you do after you choose an agent and assign a lot of money? Exactly how do you go about doing it? Kermit Roosevelt really is a wonderful way to answer that question. What happened was this: Kermit Roosevelt, who as you said was Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, was the Near East director for the C.I.A. He slipped clandestinely into Iran just around the end of July 1953. He spent a total of less than three weeks in Iran--that's only how long it took him to overthrow the government of Mossadegh. And one thing that I did realize as I was piecing together this story is how easy it is for a rich, powerful country to throw a poor, weak country into chaos. So what did Roosevelt do? The first thing he did was he wanted to set Tehran on fire. He wanted to make Iran fall into chaos. So he bribed a whole number of politicians, members of Parliament, religious leaders, newspaper editors and reporters, to begin a very intense campaign against Mossadegh. This campaign was full of denunciatory speeches and lies about Mossadegh, dated and passed, without bitter denunciations of Mossadegh from the pulpits and in the streets, on the houses of Parliament. Then, Roosevelt also went out and bribed leaders of street gangs...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4540.htm

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19479.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17779.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15755.htm

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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:27 PM
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7. BBC cutting at home while spending money in Iran?
Will the BBC's Farsi TV find viewers in Iran?

The BBC and Voice of America will have their work cut out to impress an increasingly media-savvy young Iranian audience with their Farsi TV services.

The UK government is to pump funding into a new BBC World Service Farsi TV news service for Iran as part of £70m earmarked for the World Service over the next three years. Meanwhile the US administration is putting more than $21m into Voice of America Farsi TV and a further $14.7m into Radio Farda as part of its as "soft topple" policy, writes Dr Massoumeh Torfeh.

..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2007/nov/09/theukgovernmentisto



'You decide how safe it is,' BBC tells viewers of new Persian channel

Thursday 8 January 2009 16.29 GMT

The BBC has said that viewers of its new Persian language television channel in Iran will have to decide for themselves whether it is safe enough for them to interact with it when it launches next week.

London-based BBC Persian will cost £15m a year and is funded by money from the Foreign Office, which pays for the BBC World Service. It will have 150 staff and has recruited 100 new journalists, mostly from the Middle East. It will air for eight hours a day and broadcast a mix of news and other programming aimed at the more than 100 million Persian speakers worldwide.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/08/bbc-persian-safety




Newsnight hit in BBC News cuts

Monday 11 May 2009

Two specialist BBC News science and environment jobs to be lost, and Newsnight's budget to be reduced by 15%

Newsnight is facing a 15% budget cut and two BBC environment and science reporters will also lose their jobs as part of BBC News's latest round of job losses.

..

The two science and environment jobs will disappear as part of a plan to cut 88.5 posts from BBC News by next April as part of the corporation's five-year saving plan announced in 2007 aiming to save £155m.

..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/11/bbc-newsnight-science-environment-cuts
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:52 PM
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8. You got it....I wouldn't go near this one.....too much history.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:00 PM
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9. Churchill thought overthrowing the Prime Minister of Iran
was a 'great venture'.


In August 1953 a coup overthrew Iran's nationalist government of Mohammed Musaddiq and installed the Shah in power. The Shah subsequently used widespread repression and torture in a dictatorship that lasted until the 1979 Islamic revolution. The 1953 coup is conventionally regarded primarily as a CIA operation, yet the planning record reveals not only that Britain was the prime mover in the initial project to overthrow the government but also that British resources contributed significantly to the eventual success of the operation. Two first-hand accounts of the Anglo-American sponsorship of the coup - by the MI6 and CIA officers primarily responsible for it - are useful in reconstructing events. (1) Many of the secret planning documents that reveal the British role have been removed from public access and some of them remain closed until the next century - for reasons of 'national security'. Nevertheless, a fairly clear picture still emerges. Churchill later told the CIA officer responsible for the operation that he 'would have loved nothing better than to have served under your command in this great venture'. (2)

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According to then CIA officer Richard Cottam, 'that mob that came into north Tehran and was decisive in the overthrow was a mercenary mob. It had no ideology. That mob was paid for by American dollars.' (59) One key aspect of the plot was to portray the demonstrating mobs as supporters of the Communist Party - Tudeh - in order to provide a suitable pretext for the coup and the assumption of control by the Shah. Cottam observes that agents working on behalf of the British 'saw the opportunity and sent the people we had under our control into the streets to act as if they were Tudeh. They were more than just provocateurs, they were shock troops, who acted as if they were Tudeh people throwing rocks at mosques and priests'. (60) 'The purpose', Brian Lapping explains, 'was to frighten the majority of Iranians into believing that a victory for Mussadeq would be a victory for the Tudeh, the Soviet Union and irreligion'. (61)

The head of the CIA operation also sent envoys to the commanders of some provincial armies, encouraging them to move on to Tehran. (62) In the fighting in the capital, 300 people were killed before Musaddiq's supporters were defeated by the Shah's forces. A US general later testified that 'the guns they had in their hands, the trucks they rode in, the armoured cars that they drove through the streets, and the radio communications that permitted their control, were all furnished through the military defence assistance program'. (63)

'All in all', US Iran analyst Barry Rubin comments, 'only five Americans with a half-dozen Iranian contacts had organised the entire uprising'. (64) The British input, however, had clearly been significant. One Iranian agent of the British - Shahpour Reporter, who subsequently served as adviser to the Shah - was later rewarded with a knighthood, before becoming a chief middleman for British arms sales to Iran, in particular for the manufacturers of Chieftain tanks and Rapier missiles. (65) Two years after the coup, the head of the MI6 end of the operation became Director of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, one of Britain's leading 'independent' academic research institutes. (66)

http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l30iran.htm


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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:32 PM
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4. Some pertinent information to consider: IMO, there are far too many players to keep an accurate
scorecard. :(
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