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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:25 AM
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Obama: 'The prison at Guantanamo has weakened American national security.'
 
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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:48 AM
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1. K&R
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:50 PM
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2. Don’t Piss Off,President Obama You Won’t Like Him When He’s Mad!
"I Get it" Fear Mongering!

President Obama Need's to get rid of Mueller!

Did FBI murdered Bruce Ivins?

Among that evidence are two computers used by the public at the C. Burr Artz Public Library in downtown Frederick, according to Frederick County's library director. The FBI removed the computers from the library's second floor last week, Darrell Batson told the Frederick News-Post.

Batson, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the News-Post that the two agents who requested the computers did not have a court order but persuaded him nonetheless to surrender the computers. The agents did not mention Ivins, anthrax or Fort Detrick, Batson said, but he would not discuss what they did say.

Debbie Weierman, a spokeswoman for the FBI's Washington Field Office, declined to comment yesterday on the bureau's contacts with library officials.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:24 PM
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3. soaring rhetoric backed by no actionable penalty for the murderers, torturers, rapists and thieves?
They raided our country's coffers for 8 years & did horrible acts and all he says is they took us OFF COURSE? They derailed the train, Mr. President.

How does this show to people that murderous and tortuous thugs on all levels will face justice, and two, make the rest of the world see us as being anything different than B*shco when we ignore that justice is blind when it comes to holding even the most high & mighty accountable? President Obama is one of the few who had the ability to push for justice and in repeated statement after statement he renders justice as being something akin to 'looking back' and, sorry - that's not what a noble president who followed the most crooked contemptuous fear-based regime should be doing.

The world has been let down. I am finally in agreement with so many on this board. President Obama just seems like more of the same. I will not openly support him in public anymore when he is disparaged for being another 'politician'.

I support Democrats like Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold, and Teddy Kennedy. They are men of courage to me and why I am a progressive-minded Democrat. I don't like centrists pleasing the right of center ideologues and I will not support his re-election if we get 3 and a half more years of this same tightrope act that ignores the devilish actions of the perverted B*sh administration.

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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:27 PM
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6. Please
But let us look at the Nuremberg Trials: the rank and file soldiers and operatives who committed torture and genocide were not tried -- the lawyers and political leaders who crafted and defended the policy of torture and genocide were tried and many convicted. While I am not apologizing
for the dozens or perhaps hundreds of CIA agents, military and contractors who, any investigation will show, were complicit, actively or passively, in the top-down policy of torture, I do know that these were people lower down the chain of command who have served their nation for many years -- and who were following directives declared not only legal by the President of the United States of America and the OLC, but were told they were "saving lives." To throw them into the fire for political cover is shameful.

Also, it would leave Obama with the problem from hell. So many people in the agency were involved in these practices that to prosecute them -- well, he would disembowel his own intelligence services.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/dont-prosecute----and-sca_b_190177.html
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:24 PM
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8. there is a huge cancer in this gvt that has been there for decades
perhaps I was naive in hoping a clean sweep of the pustule matter that stains our gvt.

best...
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:24 PM
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4. well done Mr. President
Did he mention that 61 released detainess went back to terrorist training?..Let me repeat that 61 detainess that the previous administration released have been found to have gone back to terrorist ties. Why did MSNBC post Cheney remarks to the right?
I found that distracting while I was trying to listen to him.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 05:32 PM
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7. Yes it has and dithering about wtf to do isn't helping
Some will be tried with the evidence collected, however I'm angry about the waffling over the others. Cheney is certainly a Dick, but what about this administration? If these detainees are so horribly dangerous that they can't be released, however there isn't enough evidence to convict them for terrorism, how about a different freakin' charge? I've always understood that anyone who is a danger to themselves or others can be committed indefinitely for mental problems. If they can hold citizens of other countries forever in Gitmo, why can't they present evidence of their insanity & hold them in high-security institutions elsewhere according to US law?
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