Ms. California's pastor on O'rly: it's offensive to compare black civil rights to gay marriage

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

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[LakeSamish706]

1. Old Billy salivating big time over the coverage of this girl.... What can one say...

about these screwed up Repugs that hasn't already been said?

[azureblue]

2. wasn't very long ago

that christian preachers were using the Bible to justify slavery and segregation..

[mitchtv]

3. he doesn't look old enough

to remember segregation

[lame54]

5. He was born in 1960, so it is possible

http://www.milesmcpherson.com/theman

but I have always had a problem with born again preachers, who after a wild life style make mega bucks preaching to others not to do what they have done.

[hangman86]

4. I known some people who are formerly gay too

and they have the scars to prove it.

[Cronus Protagonist]

6. "I never saw a black man turn white"

And I never saw a straight man turn gay, or a gay man turn straight, so there IS a similarity, even by his own bigoted yard-stick! The fucker can't even get his straw-man arguments right!

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[Cronus Protagonist]

14. Yeah? Then they were gay when they went in

I think we've already jumped that shark.

[LeftyMom]

19. There's an obvious historical parallel. It's "passing."

A unknown number of mostly mixed families managed to "pass" as white (hell, a lot of their descendants probably have no idea) just as a lot of "ex-gays" and just plain closeted people "pass" as straight. But passing isn't being, and lying about yourself is emotionally hurtful and socially dangerous no matter what you're lying about or what the social justification for doing so.

[winyanstaz]

7. So it is ok to discriminate on sex but not on race? Excuse me?

Its offensive to see someone who's rights so many fought and died for trying to deny rights to another.
Someone needs to send this preacher back to bible study so he can learn about things Jesus taught...like "As ye do unto the least of these..you do unto me." This preacher is not practicing the teachings of his Lord.
Its bad enough to deny people basic human rights..among which is the right to be married to the one you love...but this is just wrong on so many levels. There are fathers and mothers and sisters and brothers and grandparents and aunts and uncles this guy is also slapping in the face by denying these people their civil rights based on ANY damned reason!! We ARE our brother's keeper. Even us Pagans know that.

[Fendius]

8. Foooooooooxxx

You would have to be a 5 year old foreign student to not clearly see the HILARIOUS agenda Oreilly pushes, its to the point where its comical.. I have to admit, I watch Family Guy, online as much as possible, but every other FOX show before and after has boiled down to one very thing.............Giraldo Rivera.. Nuff said....

[davidhilton1]

9. what a crock...

whos trying to destroy the san diego beauty queen?

[imdjh]

10. Notice he said he MET HER the day after the pageant.

I wonder which bordel.....church she attended before that.


What a fucking moron- can't he at least get some original material?

I stopped watching with "I know a lot of people who used to be gay..."

[Aslanspal]

15. FTR , I am pro gay civil rights..for civil unions(semantics)

but the guy is telling the truth ,he did meet her the day after

Warning: following is a religious program with spiritual aspects

http://www.skylinechurch.org/resources/audio/05032009.815am.mp3


Imho: Perez Hilton is flaming and over the top and really was the WORST messenger for the gay community...look he called her a bitch then he took that back..then he changed his mind then he
escalated it by calling her a "C%*t" so she got a lot of traction and sympathy from that and I agree
she answered the question in a free speech fashion and I have listened to it...you can actually dissect it to make it gay friendly and use against Prop 8 proponents....now the last couple of days she has taken some hits...a pic when she was 17....parents are divorced....cosemetic work....still to put it in perspective she does not deserve the attacks...I wish someone from the gay community with integrity would smack down Perez Hilton and actually speak intelligently about her and the issue.

[imdjh]

21. Semantics

FTR, i have no idea how Perez Hilton got to be a judge. He is about as representative of the gay community as Chris Crocker. But the semantics we're talking about is the equivalent of saying, "Personally, I don't care to be around black people, but I think they should have equal rights." A person might feel that way, in fact plenty of people feel that way, but only a fool would say it in public.

Miss USA is a public relations job from beginning to end. A person going into pageants knows that.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

20. I think he meant met with her after the pageant, not right before the pageant.

as in he didn't talk to her right before the pageant.

[snake in the grass]

11. This upsets Orally so much...

...he'll have to show those pictures over and over again to illustrate how bad we are. No doubt he is mixing up a new batch of falafel to smear all over his body as he privately assesses each photo at home.

This guy is such a fucking blockhead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPTCiRNeZeU

[Liberal_Christian]

12. YES. Lets go to the bible shall we? Christ said Adultery and Divorce ruin the sanctity of marriage.

Why isn't this fake Christian trying to pass bills preventing Adultery and Divorce? BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE AND NOT THE CHURCH.

Prop 8 and other legislation allowing for same-sex marriage are for getting the STATE to recognize a particular union between two people.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GO INTO CARRIE PREJEAN'S PASTOR'S CHURCH AND TELL THEM TO ACCEPT GAY MARRIAGE AS PART OF THEIR FAITH.

GOD THESE PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK. I may not be a homosexual but I am a Christian and to see pseudo christians like this ruining the Christian faith by perverting its meaning is infuriating.

Neither Liberal principles or conservative principles adhere 100% to Christianity but Liberal principles are A LOT closer to the teachings of Christ than Conservatism. These Right Wing hate-tards would realize that if they actually READ the new testament.

[tomm2thumbs]

16. Religion is a choice - if that argument is what he wants - so why can religious people marry?

It's their choice - why are they protected by the Constitution and various laws of discrimination?

[Kerrytravelers]

17. These guys at Skyline are actively persuring people in the LGBTQ community:

http://www.skylinechurch.org/resources/bulletin.pdf

health Connect

Safe Passage • Thursdays • 7 pm • Room 413
This support group, led by facilitator Tedd Darby, is dedicated to ministering to same
sex attraction issues.


What heroes. :eyes:

[bumblebee1]

18. Did O'really have a loofa sponge on his desk during the interview?

He can squeeze and caress it while he thinks of Miss Prejean. He can fantacize about scrubbing her back with it.

Just came from watching the video with O'Really and the pastor. My problem isn't with what Miss Prejean beleives in. After I saw the video of her performance, I had another idea. Her answer sounded like she was about to do more skating around than Michelle Kwan did in two Olympics. Only difference is that Michelle Kwan has at least two Olympic medals to show for her skating. Miss Prejean has no crown to show for her skating around. The Miss California crown may also be taken from her due to suggestive photos.

[onetwo]

22. Ethnicity vs. behavior is a valid argument. So I think he has a point there.

Irrespective of the varying opinions swirling around the gay marriage issue, there IS in fact a difference between discrimination based upon ethnicity versus discrimination based upon behavior.

Now, I'm going to ask a highly controversial question in complete good faith. It was in the news a while back and, after getting over the immediate repugnance of the question, I started thinking about it seriously and couldn't really answer it completely to my own personal satisfaction. While the question itself is easy enough to smack down, it is the followups that I struggle with. If you find the question too distasteful, please immediately hit the back button as I do not want to offend anyone. (I will don the flame suit, anyway.)

Ready?

OK.

What is the difference between between having a sexual preference towards people of the same sex and one towards adolescents?

Here's how I've thus far formulated my answer. Gay sex occurs between consenting adults while the child in an adult/adolescent relationship is not mature enough to be completely autonomous in choosing his/her sexual partner. That is satisfactory until one considers that the central premise behind the gay rights movement is that sexual tendencies are involuntary and not readily changeable. It appears to me that the same can possibly be said in defense of pedophiles -- that they may also lack the ability to control what sexually arouses them.

So, let's assume that my initial answer is the correct one (and I believe that it is). We legislate underage sex because kids aren't mature enough and gay interactions should not be governed in a like manner because they occur between adults (I fully, 110% agree with this). The question becomes, What are we to do with these people, the pedos? Are we to continually imprison people who have a similarly uncontrollable sexual predisposition? Although pedophilia is horrible and could absolutely never be condoned, would you agree that there is something messed up about people being born condemned to a life of constant punishment from the penal system, not to mention the instant social ostracization? This is the question that bothers me.