TYT: (Disturbing) Girls Being Seduced by the Beauty Industry at Too Young an Age?

[ihavenobias]

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[elleng]

1. Its a little late for this question, isn't it?

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[ihavenobias]

2. It's an interview with the Newsweek author of 'Generation Diva'. Kids tanning, waxing...

almost half of 6 to 9 year olds wearing lipstick/lip gloss, etc. There are some other really interesting numbers in there too.

Here is the article: http://www.newsweek.com/id/191247

[seabeyond]

3. huge duh, and we have known it, speak about it and told to shut up about it too

this barely tapped the issue. i could appreciate the sidekick that actually talked about the crap fed to his kids on these kid programs in the daytime

[ihavenobias]

5. You should've been the one to write the Newsweek article!

Why are they wasting their time on it otherwise?

;)

[CherylK]

7. LOL!!!

:spray:

[seabeyond]

9. your post makes no sense. i am all for this article and this being talked about on cenk

and i certainly dont see it as a waste of time. your post addressing what i posted makes no sense.

just because i state it is not anything new doesnt mean i dont appreciate when it is addressed

[ihavenobias]

10. I was teasing you.

Hence the wink face. ;)

But yes, writing "huge duh" is slightly dismissive and insulting. Not a big deal, but not really a constructive tone. At any rate, we seem to agree outside of a mysterious lack of capitalization.

:)

[seabeyond]

14. as a female and having addressed this issue for so long, seeing it progressively getting worse

with our youth and the damage it is doing to our girls, and continually being dismissed.... ya, a little pissed comes along with it. maybe if you had been addressing the issue as long as i and other women have been, and ignored or told it is not effecting our youth, maybe you might have responded with a "no shit" too

and then above all that, this issue being important and all...

ya capatilization is really a mention. now merely a rolling of the eyes, wink

[reggie the dog]

23. I am pissed off about this too

I am a man. As far as I understand women wear make up, dye their hair and all that because they think they have to in order to be desired sexually by men. To look sexy, or whathave you. WHAT IN THE HELL SHOULD GIRLS TOO YOUNG TO HAVE SEX BE DOING LOOKING SEXY????????

[seabeyond]

26. we give our youngest of children our adult sexual world in all its perversions, mess

and then wonder why our children, both males and females, boys and girls are fucked up.

us adults cannot even deal with it all in a healthy manner, but we feed it to our children endlessly and expect what??? from them. balance?, healthy sexual exploration?, or totally fucked up???

i read your post below. why cant the man say...

instead what we have today is the adults actually playing, ... playing... with the children in the (kids) sexual journey. on the net. on the girls gone wild, truly girls... grown men, old men....

parents arent without control. it is outrageous the number of parents that say they are powerless. not true.

[CherylK]

6. I think we all know about the question but I sure didn't know some of this information!

Preventative botox?? And little kids tanning??

:puke:

[ihavenobias]

8. Exactly, that's the point.

It's a little aggravating to hear dismissive comments based on the title alone. And it's one thing to generically be aware of an issue and quite another to be presented with specific numbers that help quantify it.

[Karenina]

30. This is SO RETRO! OH, SHIRLEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=orq4LqX7WEE&gl=US

[Seldona]

15. I don't think so at all. Parents are fighting this every day.

If anything this needs to be discussed at much greater length.

I am already getting eye-rolls and 'old-man' comments from my TEN and EIGHT year old girls about the make-up and clothing rules at home. This coming from a guy who wore nothing but leather pants until I was in my early 20's and dated woman who generally wore less. Yea yea, I'm a hypocrite. I am fine with it, at least when it comes to parenting.

I'll never forget the day my six year old came out of her room in a mini-skirt that literally showed her ass. I got the, "But Dad, Mom got it for me and everyone wears these." Told her, no honey, not everyone does. YOU don't. Get it?

The opening salvo in a losing war imo. The 'cool kids' will have this crap, and ridicule everyone else who doesn't.

I agree on the Bratz dolls as well. Did a pedophile get a hold of a toy company? Sheesh!

[elleng]

16. You are right, of course.

What I intended was to suggest that we the people should have been on top of this YEARS ago, to kick it back.

Fortunately, WE as parents had the benefit of the 'skirt police' at school!

[Seldona]

20. Ahh, forgive me for misunderstanding.

I agree it shouldn't have come to this.

[elleng]

21. O, forgive ME for not being clear!

:hi:

[reggie the dog]

24. You are not a hypocrite

You did not date girls who were ten and eight years old.

[Seldona]

28. That's true.

I seem to remember my little sister more worried about her Cabbage Patch doll than in skin-care products.

Still I am going to hear the hypocrite argument. I have been pretty honest with them about my past in the hopes they can learn from my mistakes. That could come back to bite me the ass later. I guess the best we can hope for is to try to provide them with the tools they will need.

Great conversation on one of my favorite topics. Y'all better watch out. I can talk about this all day. lol

[seabeyond]

29. I can talk about this all day

me too.

and we dont actually talk about it a whole lot. a lot of one liners, calling names ect... but not a real dialogue.

i am opposite. i am mom raising two sons and what i did in older teens, but mostly 20's is not what i am advocating for my young children, or anyones....

i also look at it differently than i did then, cause today is different than then

having girls though, oooosh, i figure it is a certain guy that gets daughters, lol lol. something to have to expereince and empathize. whereas i have two boys, so much different, and i think easier

[OhioChick]

4. This is insane...

I was watching a program on TLC I believe and it was about beauty pageants for little girls and all that goes along with it. Little 4 and 5 year old girls with primped up hair, tanned, they use some type of fake teeth over their own "baby teeth", etc. Sickening. :puke:

Reminds me of the JonBenét girl. Sad.

Getting your little girl involved in this is like telling them that they aren't pretty or good enough. Those girls are going to have some awful self esteem issues down the road. 4 and 5 year olds should be playing with their friends....not participating in this crap.

[PA Democrat]

19. I've seen that show and it made me ill.

Yes, let's teach girls from an early age that they will be judged on their LOOKS alone, and teach them to wink, wiggle their butts and flirt with the judges and audience.

:puke:

[Smith_3]

11. Capitalism moving on to a new market. I think its really as simple as that.

If the natural demand for products doesn't satisfy the desire of the capitalist for profit, then the capitalist will work to create an artificial need.

[luvspeas]

12. the chemicals in cosmetics are completely unregulated...

Adults have problems with allergens and hormone-mimicking chemicals in cosmetics, and it can be worse for kids. There's all manner of untested garbage in today's "health and Beauty" aids. I had terrible skin problems my entire life until I started using everything fragrance free(soap, shampoo, conditioner, lotion and detergent). These things are still expensive and hard to find.
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Adolescent exposures to cosmetic chemicals of concern

By Rebecca Sutton, Ph.D., Staff Scientist, September 2008

Skin Deep

The 20 teens we tested had an average of 13 hormone-altering cosmetics chemicals in their bodies.

Laboratory tests reveal adolescent girls across America are contaminated with chemicals commonly used in cosmetics and body care products. Environmental Working Group (EWG) detected 16 chemicals from 4 chemical families - phthalates, triclosan, parabens, and musks - in blood and urine samples from 20 teen girls aged 14-19. Studies link these chemicals to potential health effects including cancer and hormone disruption. These tests feature first-ever exposure data for parabens in teens, and indicate that young women are widely exposed to this common class of cosmetic preservatives, with 2 parabens, methylparaben and propylparaben, detected in every single girl tested.

In Alex (Washington DC): 12 hormone-altering cosmetics chemicals. "It's frightening to learn about the many different kinds of toxic chemicals that can be found in my body. At the same time I would much rather be knowledgeable about my body's chemical makeup than uninformed; in this case, ignorance is NOT bliss."

This work represents the first focused look at teen exposures to chemicals of concern in cosmetics, exposures that occur during a period of accelerated development. Adolescence encompasses maturation of the reproductive, immune, blood, and adrenal hormone systems, rapid bone growth associated with the adolescent "growth spurt," shifts in metabolism, and key changes to brain structure and function. Alterations in an array of sex hormones, present in the body at levels as low as one part per billion (ppb), or even one part per trillion (ppt), guide this transformation to adulthood. Emerging research suggests that teens may be particularly sensitive to exposures to trace levels of hormone-disrupting chemicals like the ones targeted in this study, given the cascade of closely interrelated hormonal signals orchestrating the transformation from childhood to adulthood.

Study teens use more personal care products daily than an average adult woman

Source: EWG product use surveys.

During this window of vulnerability to toxic assault, adolescent girls typically experiment with an increasing number and variety of body care products. Teen study participants used an average of nearly 17 personal care products each day, while the average adult woman uses just 12 products daily. Thus, teens may unknowingly expose themselves to higher levels of cosmetic ingredients linked to potential health effects at a time when their bodies are more susceptible to chemical damage.

Cosmetics and other personal care products are an alarming example of government and industry failures to protect public health. Federal health statutes do not require companies to test products or ingredients for safety before they are sold. As a result, nearly all personal care products contain ingredients that have not been assessed for safety by any accountable agency, and that are not required to meet standards of safety. To protect the health of teens and all Americans, we recommend action:

* The federal government must set comprehensive safety standards for cosmetics and other personal care products.
* Teens should make healthy choices for themselves by reducing the number of products they use, and by using our Shopper’s Guide to Safe Cosmetics to select safer products.
* Companies must reformulate products to protect consumers from exposure to potentially toxic chemicals, untested ingredients, and noxious impurities.

[reggie the dog]

25. Study teens use more personal care products daily than an average adult woman

so teens wear makeup to look older, and older women wear makeup to look like teenagers again? oi

[pleah]

13. Reminds me of a South Park episode .

What the hell is wrong with the parents? I have seen this happening over the years, though.:(

[Quantess]

17. Advertising and propaganda is extremely effective on children.

It is working so well, that parents are losing influence on their children, and it doesn't matter whether the mothers wear makeup or get their nails done. The girls feel pressure within their peer groups to start wearing makeup, shave the invisible hair off their legs, paint their nails, etc, in grade school. If you don't, then you're not cool. This was true 30 years ago, and it's only getting worse. 30 years ago it began in the 5th or 6th grade. But now the girls are feeling the pressure even younger. And I think most of the girls would have a desire to use cosmetics at young ages, whether or not their moms participated. The peer pressure alone is enough.

They are just consumer targets, that is all.

[burning rain]

18. Good to see this getting attention.....

but really, it should have been clear to people after Jon Benet Ramsey's murder -- at the very latest, and assuming people really needed to be knocked on the head.

[reggie the dog]

22. this paragraph is too much

"New Methods, Old Message
Why are this generation's standards different? To start, this is a group that's grown up on pop culture that screams, again and again, that everything, everything, is a candidate for upgrading. These girls are maturing in an age when older women are taking ever more extreme measures, from Botox to liposuction, to stay sexually competitive. They've watched bodies transformed on "Extreme Makeover"; faces taken apart and pieced back together on "I Want a Famous Face." They compare themselves to the overly airbrushed models in celebrity and women's magazines, and learn about makeup from the girls of "Toddlers & Tiaras," or the show's WEtv competitor, "Little Miss Perfect." And while we might make fun of the spoiled teens on MTV's "My Super Sweet 16," these shows raise the bar for what's considered over the top."

Lets see, my daughter sees that her parents watch the occasional movie, and a soccer game every once in a while. She will not have a tv in her room ever.

As for the stupid "girl magazines" which are just hundred page long adds, she sees that her mother does not read them, and we may just well forbid our daughter from buying them. And if older women are doing all this shit to stay "sexually competitive" it is a sign of a bancrupt society where only physical "beauty" matters. What in the hell happend to men who can say hell I am older, so is my wife, I love her so I love sex with her and I dont give a shit about the grey hair or wrinkles? and another thing, if this is about staying sexually competitive it will be forbidden for my daughter before she is in high school.

[Quantess]

27. Girls are told to be sexy-- in those exact words--before they even want it.

Like when it says "the word SEXY" on the cover of SEVENTEEN magazine, and those Seventeen magazines have a readership of ages 11 to 17. It's just creepy.

Whatever you do, warn her about the crock of **** that is COSMOPOLITAN. My friends and I read those in High School, and we didn't know how supremely ridiculous Cosmo articles were, becuase we didn't have the practical life experience to know better. Mostly we liked the fashion photos, but somehow we had this idea that COSMOPOLITAN was a "mature magazine" that sophisticated, adult women take seriously. We actually thought those sex articles offered real advice for real women.

I can't believe we were allowed to read them without getting disclaimers that the articles and sex questionnaires were almost 100% nonsense.