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Founding Fathers Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 07:02 AM
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Michael Connell, Karl Rove, Cliff Arnebeck, Mark Crispin Miller
 
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Michael Connell was killed when the Piper Supercub he was piloting crashed three miles short of an Akron-Canton Airport runway. He leaves behind a wife and four children.

Connell, 45, of Bath Township, was considered to be one of the Republican Party's top computer experts. He led the companies that designed websites for the GOP and a virtual who's-who list of Republican political leaders; including President George W. Bush, Senator John McCain, as well as national organizations. Connell developed a host of federal government software and data management systems. Connell is also said to be a close confidant of the Bush family.

Mike Connell was in charge of the White House emails that "disappeared".

On election day 2004, a computer at Connell's office in Missouri briefly took over the identity of the official computer in Columbus that counts all votes for Ohio. During those few hours, the vote for Bush surged and the vote for Kerry actually decreased.

Connell was about to testify about these events. He and his wife were both threatened by agents of Karl Rove when he made plans to tell the truth.

http://www.rovecybergate.com


http://www.2008electionfraud.com/connell.htm

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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 08:54 AM
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1. Kucinich?
Well waddaya know! The crash took place in Dennis' Congressional District! I hope that gets him on the case for all this!

-90% Jimmy
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 10:23 AM
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2. Kucinich is in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland)
The crash was in Stark County (Canton) that is Ohio 16th district.

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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:34 AM
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8. Thanks
Thanks for the district correction info.

I apologize for getting our hopes up too much.

-90% Jimmy
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 05:58 PM
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3. If this could only be proven and we could undo all that prez shit-for-brains did
during the last four years... :-(

How come so many of us know this to be true, and the media, and even some prominent Dems never took up the cause. What a tragedy.
I remember Al Franken announcing the results. I was listening to the radio, and he was crying...

woulda, shoulda, coulda...


On election day 2004, a computer at Connell's office in Missouri briefly took over the identity of the official computer in Columbus that counts all votes for Ohio. During those few hours, the vote for Bush surged and the vote for Kerry actually decreased.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 11:00 PM
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4. FASCISM LIVES IN AMERICA... THAT'S WHY!
IT IS UP TO US TO STOP IT'S PROGRESSION.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 03:02 AM
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6. And in a hurry. They are shutting down all the entries
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 02:58 AM
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5. Nothing happened technically without Connell for the republicans.
Spoonamoore claims Connell 'fixed' the results in Ohio because of his stand on abortions and even demonstrtes ow it was done. Just as soon as we get Connell subpoenaed to testify...he's killed. He lived in the republican hypocritical bubble. What a coincidence huh?.....
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:54 AM
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11. Spoonamore ALLEGED that Connell COULD HAVE rigged the election. That's all.

If you have a link that says otherwise and actually SUPPORTS the claim (minor detail) I'd be interested in seeing it.

And let's keep in mind that Connell going down, pardon the phrase, may well benefit Spoonamore's IT business.

:tinfoilhat: :patriot:
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 07:54 AM
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7. What is the source of this claim? What is the evidence?
On election day 2004, a computer at Connell's office in Missouri briefly took over the identity of the official computer in Columbus that counts all votes for Ohio.

Is this just a paraphrase of Spoonamore's theory and therefore just speculative? Or is there evidence that it actually happened?

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 10:38 AM
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9. Screen Capture of Ohio Sec. of State's web site 2004


"They" were "parking votes" in a 3rd party's space untill they were needed later

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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 04:27 PM
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13. Sorry if I wasn't clear -- what is the source of the specific details
for how such a change in the vote totals came about?

In other words, what is the basis for this statement in the OP that describes a connection between two specific servers at a specific time:

On election day 2004, a computer at Connell's office in Missouri briefly took over the identity of the official computer in Columbus that counts all votes for Ohio.


Unless there is a source with specific, detailed knowledge, then an update of the reported results could have been effected by a practically endless number of other causes. Just showing that the totals changed doesn't demonstrate that a particular server was involved in changing them.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:07 PM
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17. Eomer, if they knew the specific mechanism, then they would have been in court,
arguing the case, and not taking depositions and doing discovery. A lawsuit at this stage--depositions and discovery--means that they have established, to a judge's satisfaction, that there is sufficient suspicion that a crime was committed, to proceed with taking witness testimony and seeking documents, to pin down exactly what happened and who did what.

The lawyers in the case do not have to prove the accusations in a legal brief, on paper. That comes later. In depositions and discovery, they look for the chain of command, the specifics of the crime, and the various levels of responsibility of the people involved.

You don't think that it is exremely suspicious that a Republican IT operative (Michael Connell) took custody of the OH election returns data during the crucial hours when Kerry's day-long lead suddenly was gone, and Bush had won, after a computer "breakdown" at the TV networks reporting site (and about an hour of downtime)?

The lawyers in the Ohio 2004 election fraud suit were trying to find out what this meant, when the key IT specialist who had taken custody of the data, went to his death in a small plane crash (last week). He had just been deposed, and denied knowing anything about election fraud. Ahem. And that's the point at which lawyers start applying pressure--when they've got a suspected perp as a witness. They look for discrepancies, clues and perjury in his deposition.

Crash-boom, his small plane goes up in flames.

Why do you keep asking what the mechanism was (you asked it in another thread), when they are dealing with people with enormous power to cover their tracks? That is what this lawsuit is all about--what they did and how they covered their tracks. That is what the depositions and discovery are for.

And that process is what has been seriously hampered by Connell's sudden, unexpected, small plane crash death.



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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 07:29 AM
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18. My complaint is quite narrow and specific.
The OP states unequivocally what the mechanism was:

On election day 2004, a computer at Connell's office in Missouri briefly took over the identity of the official computer in Columbus that counts all votes for Ohio. During those few hours, the vote for Bush surged and the vote for Kerry actually decreased.


This statement is apparently without foundation. It is speculation. The actual mechanism may have been something entirely different. It may have been, for example, that Triad employees hacked the tabulators in their counties through direct hands-on access (by physically traveling to each county), rather than Govtech hacking them by accessing them through the Internet.

I'm not expecting anyone to know what the mechanism was, or to tell me; I'm expecting them not to tell me what it was if they don't actually know. If Ron Corvus wants to speculate, that's fine with me too but he should make it clear that his statement is speculation. That's all I'm saying, here and in the other thread you refer to.

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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:54 AM
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10. If I were Stephen Spoonamore, I'd be a bit "anxious" right about now.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:56 AM
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12. Actually, Spoonamore may be laughing his ass off...

...and signing IT contracts with former Connell customers.

If I were the involved blogs, I'd demand a piece of the action.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 08:11 PM
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14. Oh, somehow I doubt- very much - that Spoonamore is in any good graces
Edited on Fri Dec-26-08 08:12 PM by chill_wind
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 09:05 PM
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15. What he says and what he does might be different things.
"shattering :eyes: new interview" notwithstanding.

MCM calls him "Spoon". I think that's fitting.

Soon he'll Spoon A little More, bloggers will blog, reformers will click, and bills will get paid.

Good for the economy, actually.

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 11:05 AM
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16. kick!
:kick:
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