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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:27 PM
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TPM: Phantom Polling from NBC's Andrea Mitchell (BUSTED!)
 
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:33 PM
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1. fantastic.
let's kick and Reck this baby.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:34 PM
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2. I sent the link
to the youtube url to cnn. Who knows, maybe it will help.
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 11:27 AM
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67. Doesn't she work for MSNBC? nmi
nmi
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:35 PM
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3. Fucking neocon! Andrea...go FUCK yourself.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:40 PM
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5. And this surprises you? Who does she work for? Why, NBC. Who owns NBC?
Why, GE!!

And GE is on the top one hundred list of Pentagon contractors.

Who bites the hand that feeds them? I mean, really...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:38 PM
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17. No. I'm not the least bit surprised.
It still makes me angry. :grr: :grr: :grr:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 07:47 AM
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51. They're mostly putanos/putanas. It's a rare one with principle. And they
get rid of those before they can make too much trouble, don't they? Like good ole Phil Donohue...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:52 PM
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7. I wonder if KO would touch this with a 10-foot pole? nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:11 PM
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10. why wouldn't he?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:16 PM
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11. They work together, for starters. nt
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:05 AM
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39. There is a word I want to call her.
It is a four-letter word. Starts with the 3rd letter of the alphabet. I'll get really razzed around here is I use that word, right?

Damn. In Andrea's case, it is so, so accurate. Damn. Damn.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 02:41 AM
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46. Don't use that word as an insult
It brings so many people so much pleasure and you want to use it about a dumb, bush worshiping propagandist?
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:24 AM
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63. That word is reserved for Anne Coulter
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:05 PM
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22. I rather think his "free speech" on this issue would be curtailed, frankly.
If he dared bring it up. And I think he'd pass. It would be suicide.

Clearly, GE doesn't care about the advertisers on their piddling little MSNBC. For awhile there, they intended to dump MSNBC and move everything that they didn't trash to CNBC. If they cared about the tiny bit of cash that MSNBC brought in (and in the big picture for them, it's tiny) they'd have found a way to suspend Imus, give him an act of contrition, and keep him on, because his draw in an hour was greater than KO's in a month.

I think he likes his salary, and he knows where "the line" is. He can go so far, and no further.

If he starts ripping his bosses and coworkers, I would imagine that this is a sure sign that GE is planning to divest themselves of MSNBC. That's just my opinion, though...

They cut a shitload of jobs (700) not too long ago, and basically put MSNBC 'under' NBC news. Two links on that:

http://nymieg.blogspot.com/2006/10/nbc-universal-to-cut-700-jobs-slash.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/20/business/media/20nbc.html?ex=1318996800&en=ec0bcafba8b3bcb8&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

You have to wonder if the IMUS firing was, in addition to the fact that he preached an antiwar message from the halls of a prowar company, also, in part anyway, an attempt to get ahold of their bottom line so they don't have to shut down that cable-news arm--and maybe GE felt they weren't 'getting their money's worth' out of MSNBC...
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:52 PM
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38. Keith's Reaction to Andrea Mitchell
<Keith may not be in a position to voice his true feelings
concerning Andrea Mitchell's "creative" version 
of facts, but dollars to doughnuts he's got it all 
in his notes for the book he will eventually 
write, after leaving MSNBC!> 
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 07:50 AM
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52. If I were him, I'd just let that go. It's pretty hard to write in principled fashion how
one compromised one's principles for the almighty dollar. Unless, of course, it is in the context of an apologia.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:30 PM
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33. Michael WeinerSavage would call her a "mind slut"
...if she weren't a neocon.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:39 PM
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4. "Andrea Mitchell's....highly creative use of polls."
Josh Marshall is so delightfully tongue in cheek.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:45 PM
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6. mrs greenspan is a neocon spokesliar. it really displays the complicity of the corporate media
in the republican lie machine. ROVES republican lie machine i should say.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:34 PM
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68. It's been like this for over ten years now - I want my country back AND our airwaves.
WE pay for these lies being told us EVERY DAY!!!!!
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:56 PM
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8. Nice try, Andrea...
Do you just make shit up as you go??? WTF?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:39 AM
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42. of course andrea doesn't make shit up as she goes.....
SHE PULLS IT OUT OF HER ASS!

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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:08 PM
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9. I heard her too, this morning..Sounded fishy to me..Thanks Josh..
For the follow-up on this matter.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:22 PM
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12. Hastert: Unfavorable 32% Pelosi: Disapprove 35%
Creative reporting with the numbers. maybe?
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:29 PM
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31. They were comparing favorability ratings
...not unfavorables.

What blew my mind was that the plurality had never heard of Hastert. :wtf:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #12
48. How about 46% of people not knowing who
Hastert was!!! Pretty pathetic for speaker.
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:27 PM
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13. Go go TPM! (nt)
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:30 PM
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14. Email sent!
You can comment on this, too, via CNN's webpage:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form.sound.off.html
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:45 PM
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18. thanks for the link - sent
a pleasant email.


Not!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:53 PM
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21. Redirect e-mail to MSNBC! nt
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:51 PM
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19. She works for MSNBC
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:52 PM
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20. You DO realize she works for MSNBC? nt
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:50 PM
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37. This is what I get for copy-and-pasting with a migraine
Urgh.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:37 AM
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49. All the more reason to send it to them
They know who Keith's audience is and that we're watching closely.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #14
61. Caught that it was MSNBC so I wrote to CNN and asked why
they weren't covering it? I mean it came out that cutie pie plagiarized a Wall Street Journal story so why not expose "reporters" who falsify statistics - purposely misinterpreting them and not showing the statistics to the public so they can figure out the lie themselves. What happened to journalistic integrity?

If you have the MSNBC link I'll rant to them too!
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:30 PM
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15. Great Job-K&R
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:32 PM
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16. It is time to start exposing these media manipulaters and call them out on their "errors" n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:15 PM
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23. Yee-haw! Josh Marshall rocks! Andrea is sooooo full of baloney.
One other thing about ol' Andrea Mitchell - she said during the campaign in 2004 that "we all knew there were no WMD's in Iraq" when she was on Hardball.

Well, then, if that's true, then why didn't she report that?

There's over 3300 dead American soldiers in Iraq - and David Bloom, one of NBC's own reporters was killed in Iraq, and yet Andrea just looked the other way when she claimed that "we all knew there were no WMD's in Iraq".

Incredible.
I don't know how she lives with herself.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. She also claimed "everyone knew" that Plame was CIA
had to retract that lie
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:28 AM
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54. Andrea Mitchell is a Schmole.
She's Al Greenspan's wife for God's sake. She's going to hang around to protect his legacy as long as she can, and that's going to require putting the other side down so that nobody listens to them.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:13 PM
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29. I REMEMBER THAT QUOTE EXACTLY! I couldn't believe how cavalier she was in saying that,
especially since she was a major media whore for * and this illegal war. I have never forgotten her saying that and have not watched her "commentaries" since then. She is shameless.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:38 PM
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24. Ah... the little lies ... they fall like raindrops ...
... until enough have fallen over time, building to a flood that kills.
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 06:16 PM
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26. If you discount the people who are unsure / have not heard of them, the difference is even sharper
Hastert got 40.7% favorable ratings for those who chose favorable / unfavorable.
Pelosi got 60.0% favorable ratings for those who chose favorable / unfavorable.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 08:50 PM
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27. The Liberal Media strikes again.
:eyes:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:03 PM
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28. More fine work from JMM and TPM...glad he's on our side. n/t
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:17 PM
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30. leave it to the great Josh marshall to find out the right info.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 09:30 PM
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32. Highly creative, uhmmm...no highly distorted use of polls
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:09 PM
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34. thank you for sharing this. After watching Moyers and noticing the bull they want
to push down our throat I never trust MSM. I am only watching tonight because of Keith.
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petestern Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:31 AM
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47. Spread the Word
Andrea Mitchell fits the pattern shown in the Bill Moyers Report... if you missed the episode on "Buying the War" you can see the whole thing on line at http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html It downloads as well as plays very well in streaming media for Quicktime or Windows Media. Tell your friends that didn't see it live to check it out. Moyers is back! He is on tonight for his new regular show at 9:00 pm with Jon Stewart.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #47
53. Welcome to DU, petestern.
:hi: It's this type of "reporting" that proves Moyers' point entirely. I am so relieved to have Bill Moyers back in the broadcasting seat too.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:11 PM
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35. Umm...for those of us still on dial-up...
Could you sort of summarize what happened?
Cos just from the comments it looks just a tad inflammatory! :evilgrin:
Thanks! :pals:
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danhan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:27 PM
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36. Hate to be the skunk
but I watched the short video clip of Andrea Mitchell several times and at no time does she cite any poll as her source. So "creative use of polls" is a non starter.

The greater problem with her that should be pointed out is that she just flat out says that Nancy Pelosi and Congress' marks are no higher than Denny Hastert's before the November election. She gives no basis, statistical or otherwise, for such a statement and therefore this should have been reported as her opinion. An opinion that is wrong. This is what shows her true bias in that she doesn't even bother to try and twist a poll on this one!!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:17 AM
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40. true...
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:11 AM
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70. She says "marks"
Those marks come from the public, I know of no way to accumulate those marks from the public that shouldn't be called a poll.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:36 AM
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41. o oh, busted...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:45 AM
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43. I remember her sayng that LIE!
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 12:46 AM by goclark
What can we do about it?
:mad:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:50 AM
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44. She is a LIAR and she is SO BUSTED
the pathetic thing is they think they can lie and lie and lie and things will just poof happen
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Rottenmac Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:54 AM
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45. NOT highly creative...
that is outright falsification. I'm guessing she had no numbers in front of her, she just was 'talking out of her ass' as I like to call it.
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JoeySoCal Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:36 AM
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50. That little Trollop.
(sent to CNN)

Question: Is it morally and ethically worse to lie to millions of Americans about high ranking elected officials for reasons of personal political bias, or is it worse to use profane language about someone who peddles those lies? The following exemplifies the lesser of those two evils:

Fuck you Andrea Mitchell, you lying, decietful Hack!!! Fuck you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4awSCX8pEQY&eurl=

Who are you anyway? You're nobody!

Somebody get that useless hack off the air.

Sincerely,
Joey
LA area
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:29 AM
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55. EMAIL SENT! We need to consider contacting advertisers.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:40 AM
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56. BUSTED!!!
What a bitch...
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:20 AM
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57. mailed in my complaint... thanks babylon sister!

glad you did that.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:29 AM
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58. Sent an email!
Thanks for posting this!!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:55 AM
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59. Is It Ok If I Call Her A Cunt?
I don't want to offend anyone. Oh, fuck it. I don't care. She's a cunt.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 11:19 AM
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66. Fine by....
me!:evilgrin:
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:57 AM
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60. Send Andrea to Faux News where liars belong. Creative
LYING! Gag Me! I KNEW these poll numbers were not true but lacked proof of it!
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:20 AM
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62. This is the second time she lied on TV
Remember when Libby got convicted and there were some polls asking whether he should be pardoned?

About 70% of the people polled BY HER OWN NETWORK were AGAINST a pardon.

Didn't stop her from going on TV and LYING, claiming that "most people" supported pardoning Libby.

She is a complete asshole, an enemy of the people.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:30 AM
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64. FUCK HER -- or, even better, REVOKE CNN'S CORPORATE CHARTER
Why the fuck does she get airtime? So she can just sit there and LIE to us?

I don't pay for cable, never had it, never will.

Here's the Media Matters link on her lies about Libby:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703130010

Ignoring polling to the contrary, NBC's Mitchell claimed "most people think ... Libby should be pardoned"

Discussing the recent conviction of Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby on the March 12 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, NBC chief foreign correspondent Andrea Mitchell claimed that polling "indicates that most people think, in fact, that he should be pardoned -- Scooter Libby should be pardoned." Mitchell did not indicate to what specific "polling" she was referring. But a CNN poll released earlier that same day indicated that an overwhelming majority of Americans do not believe Libby should be pardoned.

The CNN poll, released at 4 p.m. ET on March 12, found that 69 percent of respondents felt President Bush "should not pardon" Libby, while only 18 percent felt the president "should pardon" him. CNN appears to be the only major news outlet thus far to have posed the question in a poll since Libby's March 6 conviction on federal charges of perjury and obstructing justice in connection with an investigation into the leaking of the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

=====

So why is Andrea Mitchell on the air?

And why does CNN still have a corporate charter? The airwaves belong to the PEOPLE. Networks like CNN enjoy a LICENSE to USE the airwaves at the people's pleasure.

If they pollute those airwaves with repeated lies, I think a good case can be made for pulling CNN's corporate charter and their broadcast license.

I am sick and tired of CNN acting like Pravda. Either do your job CNN or step aside and let somebody else do it.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:39 AM
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65. Andrea Mitchell's salary comes directly from a company producing weapons of mass destruction
It didn't have to be that way. There's a lot of other ways to fund a media system instead of turning to the purveyors of landmines and nuclear bombs.

But that's what we did in America. Andrea Mitchell's salary is paid for by GE, which is one of the largest war profiteers in the world. GE "brings good things to life" but they also build a hell of a lot of nuclear bombs, landmines, and other weapons of mass destruction.

So what did we expect? Follow the money, people. There's other ways to finance and fund a media. America chose probably the WORST way possible: letting defense contractors finance the system.

Remember those little concepts like "corporate charters" and "licencing of public airwaves"? Corporations can be controlled by US. The airwaves belong to US. If we can make a law saying you have to be 18 years old to drink or drive, we can damn well make a law saying that defense contractors can't own cable networks.

It could all be so easy. If we'd just wake up and pay attention.
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JoeySoCal Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 02:28 AM
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69. This lying decietful bitch-
-is a wretch and a whore.
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