Catholic Church buries Limbo Alleluia

[lovuian]

Run time: 01:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsFbWKCiEnk   Posted on YouTube: April 23, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 23, 2007 By DU Member: lovuian Views on DU: 1110

 
Based on artcle by Rodeodance

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070420/ts_nm/pope_limbo_dc

I remember walking in the cemetary and asking why the weeded part and unkept part had tombstones

My father answered it was unholy ground home for the children who were unbaptized and the suicides

Glad this has changed

[elocs]

1. Well, it's good that you can make up the rules as you go along, even in religion.

I miss the little fishes that would be on Fridays on the calendar when I was a kid.
I wonder if fish would consider their flesh "meat"?

[IndyOp]

2. I left the Catholic church at age 12 over "limbo" --

I was adopted at not quite two years of age by my Catholic parents and I thought for a long, long time that I had not been baptized until then. It bothered me tremendously that I would have been sent to limbo had I died before being baptized. As it turns out, my birth mother had me baptized around the time of my first birthday. Still, I could not accept a church that would assign innocent souls to anything less than heaven.

In my opinion, after many, many years of Catholic school + multi-weekly attendance at mass until I left for college - the doctrine about baptism is all a part of the Catholic churches' policy that sex is evil - and so the fruit of sexuality, people, are evil until the church washes them clean with baptism.

I did not arrive in this world unclean. Until the church dumps baptism, I remain distant and disapproving. Oh, and by the way, Jesus did not die for my sins -- I don't need that kind of washing clean either. It is the church that is dirty, not I.

[TexasProgresive]

3. It is truely sad since limbo was never doctrine-

it was a theological construct to try to get out of a corner painted by theologians on the necessity and action of baptism as the proto channel of grace. Thankfully now, the thinking has changed- but I'm surprise that this is "like" news since I was taught that limbo was not a teaching of the church in the 1950's.

[lovuian]

5. I was taught about limbo as a child in school

so since 1950's not teaching is wrong the concept of Limbo was still being taught in the 1960's and 70's I have to check with the kids they went to school in the 80's and 90's to see if they were taught it

It seems a lesson given in the local churches but yet it was not doctrine In other words the Church was vague about it Now it is more specific and that is a good thing

[IndyOp]

6. Thanks for your reply --

I got mega-doses of intolerance at my Catholic church and school -- the Priest told us that people who weren't baptized Catholic were going to hell. This was problematic in my life because my adoptive parents became Catholic after they married. This meant that my aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents were all going to hell.

:eyes:

[lovuian]

7. the same attitude was about Mary Magdalene

for centuries she was a prostitute but then the doctrine changed but yet I was taught and my children were taught she was a prostitute and a adulteress

its fascinating how children were taught in schools things that were not doctrine and yet it was supported and condoned
and if anybody challenged it well then you were ignorant

I'm glad the Church finally realized that this doctrine for centuries caused anguish and heartbreak to mothers and fathers
but no apology to them for changing because well they are all dead and gone to heaven they already know God Bless them all

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. limbo was thrown out of the teachings by the vatican II council in 1965

and pope john paul...if memory hasn't failed me

[lovuian]

10. So it took them to 2007 to say Limbo doesn't exist

in other words they still let the unknowing public keep thinking Limbo still existed

Remember mortal sin and veniel sins

[TexasProgresive]

11. There are some who still will teach limbo

There are those who like the idea of condemning others to Hell or if not Hell then some other place. Sadly many of these people get themselves in positions of authority and misuse that authority to promote their hellish ideas.

I am sorry that you had such a bad experience in your upbringing. It took me a while to realize that the Church I grew up in and love was not a universal experience and that many suffer from the contagion of Jansenism. Good luck to you in your life and may you be blessed in every way.

[LibDemAlways]

12. When I was teaching 8th grade at a Catholic school back in the

70's two of the boys broke into a supply closet and stole a bunch of pens, pencils, paper, crayons, etc.

They fessed up and when I told the pastor of the parish what had happened, all he cared about was the dollar value of the items stolen so he could determine what degree of sin they had committed. I was incredulous and replied "but isn't taking something that doesn't belong to you wrong regardless of its monetary value? Shouldn't the point be to let the kids know that stealing those items was just plain wrong?" His response, "Well the church teaches there are degrees of wrongness and this doesn't sound all that bad."

I walked out thinking, "Ok, next time I hope they steal your car." Jeez.

[forintegrity]

4. If only the Church would bury all it's other discriminating practices

I might consider it worthwhile

[xxqqqzme]

9. I did not grow up in the Catholic church

but 1/2 of my extended family did (my great-grandmother took the youngest 3 of her 6 children into the church after a Catholic neighbor prayed over her, on what doctors said, was her deathbed. She recovered and decided her neighbor 'healed her') Whenever a Catholic relative died, there would be this huge Requiem Mass. All were expected to contribute mega bucks so the depart-ed's soul would move swiftly into heaven from purgatory.

So I always thought it was just a scam for more money.

[DollyM]

13. I am comforted by the fact . . .

that God is still God no matter what you believe or what someone has taught you. If a teaching of your religion doesn't sound right, it probably isn't. Look in your own heart for answers and you will find them.

[colorado_ufo]

16. DollyM, you're someone I'd like to know!

Sounds like you have a wonderful heart.

[sunyasi]

14. next they are going to say...

that we don't have to ransome those pagan babies any more!!!

[Stuckinthebush]

15. "Oh, yeah..."

"Those centuries of making people depressed because we said their babies were not in heaven...and telling families of those who committed suicide that their loved ones were damned....well, our bad. Pope B-16 got the call from the big guy and he got the real scoop. Gotta say, modern communication really helps with this interpreting god stuff! OK...move along now."

What a fascinating religion.

[lovuian]

17. A religion which had controlled much of the

knowledge and had schools for learning

Its all about Saints & Sinners and thats human beings