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TOOLZ (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:43 AM Original message |
WVA Vote Flipping Caught on Tape! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Amazing how touch screens work so wonderfully in so many other situations.... |
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JJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. just thinking that very thing |
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mcollier (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
80. They are digital systems |
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Tat (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. As a computer scientist, I gotta say electronic voting is fail |
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szatmar666 (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. "Computerized Voting Machine" = "Perpetual Motion Machine" |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
97. It demonstrates a directional bias ... |
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SavageDem (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
104. EXACTLY what I was thinking. |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. I use the self checkout at Home Depot all the time... |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
98. I use the ones at Wal-Mart ... |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Yup. Kiosk airport check-in...even the Arby's has touch-screen |
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Montauk6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. Though, sometimes you REALLY have to bang that thumb for that $60 Fast Cash, just sayin'... |
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Dumak (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. The screen needs calibration my ass |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
99. effin right! |
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nugzie (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. god help me if i catch my vote switchin next week |
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stark6935 (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I can't believe this shit. I think a person should be legally able to choose, |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well that would at least be half-a-loaf.. |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. You know-Ted Kozinski might have been right about technology |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
70. Paper or plastic. Democracy or autocracy... |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. You might know, but even if you don't, it means nothing |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. Exactly! The central tabulator... can be manipulated at a distance. |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. I totally agree. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. I'm carrying a sledgehammer in my trunk specifically for that purpose |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I hope you're bringing along someone to bail you out. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I'll take my case to the public... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. I hope that works out for you. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
60. I understand your frustration, but |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. I am soooooo glad we have mail in ballots where I live. |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. And how do you think those mail-in ballots are counted? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. That is why there ought to be mandatory audits for opscans, like in Minnesota |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. THIS IS BULLSHIT |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
9. Good morning, America, how are ya? |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. The machine is out of calibration |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. I believe we ain't doin so hot, bleever... |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. Well, that's fuckin pathetic. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. No Kidding. I have almost NO problems with my so-called "glitchy" |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
12. These should be dismantled and paper ballots used! |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
41. How is technology "crap" if it works exactly the way it was designed to work? |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Bingo. nt |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Well, I'm shot down again! Go figure. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. FLyellowdog, I was not snarking at you. I was bitching about the fact that |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I got it...not to worry. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Besides--you are a yellow dog Dem. That means you are A-OK |
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Cat in the Hat (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Vote flipping is not a bug--it's a feature. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. if that happens ask for another machine... |
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Granny M (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
16. Don't worry - there will be techs from ES&S to "help" |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. RIGHT. That would make me feel soooo much better!!!! NOT!! |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
18. I take this as an alert re- what this next generation of fraud will look like: |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
19. Don't get why it has got keyed buttons at the side instead. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. We're supposed to call for and reveal TO A TECH our choice???? |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. K & R! |
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ksimons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:32 AM Response to Original message |
23. joke-o-rama |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
103. yeah just noticed that--nothing to do with calibration there |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
24. "Calibration" my ass... |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. You took the words right out of my, uh, dieriere |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Big K & R !!! |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. There's a word for machines that need such constant "calibration" |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
28. after he calibrated it... |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. i noticed that too |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
29. K&R n/t |
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thraxis (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. There is a wonderful new invention called paper. On it you can simply |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. It looks like Chicago got voting right because we have paper ballots |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
31. that's terrible |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
32. LOL Bama is light years ahead of WV! |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
35. Oh, that makes me feel SO much better! |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
36. Yeah, right... can't you see an 82 year old calling for technical assistance as soon as that happens |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
38. such fucking bullshit! Throw them in the harbor! |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
87. Like the Boston Tea Party - Boston Touch-Screen Party - going OVERBOARD!!!! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Just like that! |
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backtoblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
39. paper ballot |
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Nipper1959 (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
43. the simple solution |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
45. The last part of this video is IMPORTANT! (not a touchscreen error!) |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. You are absolutely right...and I had the same thought as you did. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. There is one reason to display vote-switching to the voter. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. lot of folks missing that point it seems.... |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
51. Share that with anyone who thinks their vote is safe |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. Pen and paper! n/t |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
54. Gee, why is it that I have a Pocket PC PDA with a similar touchscreen and I've only had to |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. I Was Going To Vote Absentee... But Given My County I Decided Not To... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
62. K&R for the electronic election fraud file. //nt |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
63. Has Anyone Called The Obama Campaign??? I Believe This Is Their |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
64. I can't believe we are STILL dealing with this BULLSHIT!!! |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
65. Holy sh*t! |
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Cat in the Hat (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. Germany is considering "outlawing" computer voting machines |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. The Irish people rejected them outright. No ifs or buts. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
68. in tarrant county, tx (fort worth area) |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
69. I've got an idea |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Better yet - if the polling workers don't calibrate the machine properly - they get arrested and |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
72. ha ha funny (not) |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
74. People need to call this guy up and demand that paper ballots be used period |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
75. If we can help Elwyn Tinklenberg turn his campaign totally around why can't we get this to go viral |
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Snarkoleptic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
77. K&mf'n R |
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Liberalatus (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. Maybe this is me.. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
82. I found a place to send the machines for "calibration." |
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Herman74 (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
84. We Need Both Jimmy Carter & UN Observers to Monitor the U.S. Election. |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
86. How in Fucking Hell did our Democratic Leadership let this happen without a huge fight? |
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dooner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
90. OMG, the official is as scarey as the malicious machine! |
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Herman74 (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Yeah, his reaction to the whole thing was stunning... |
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greenmutha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
91. My SO works with touchscreens all day long. I had him watch this video and he told me something |
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minnesota_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
93. Wow, that's so much better than a paper ballot! |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
94. Lesson. Keep your eye on the screen. |
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captainjack08 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
95. more bologna |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
96. ES&S is another GOP-controlled company. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
100. Those machines suck! |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
102. kick n/t |
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