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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:18 AM
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Dennis Kucinich speaks to 9/11 skeptics
 
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Presidential Candidate Kucinich speaks briefly to a Student 9/11 group and reiterates his intent to investigate two specific areas related to 9/11, but does not reveal what they are.

Very interesting.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:31 AM
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1. go dennis
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:39 AM
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2. Hope springs. knr
:hi:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:49 AM
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3. "One is not to reason why, one is but to do or die"
That is an old expression. Kicinich is into the area of trying to reason why. I'm not a conspiracy type person, but there are questions I'd like answered concerning 9-11.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:14 PM
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4. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I was this would get me PISSED at Kucinich.
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 12:15 PM by LoZoccolo
He's stringin' you along and not willing to risk:

1. Revealing if it's an investigation into something credible (like the way that hijacking response could be improved or something similar) and thus alienating the conspiracy theorists who want him to investigate some MIHOP thing.
2. Revealing if it's an investigation into something looney and losing all credibility with everyone else.

That's why he keeps his mouth shut: he can have his MIHOP-believer cake and eat it too!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:11 PM
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8. He's not "stringing anyone along"; listen again and really hear what he said.

I listened twice and made notes the second time.

Dennis said that in regard to 9/11 , there is a great deal of concern because we know we were lied to in order to convince Americans we should invade Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with 9/ll.

He said that therefore, as chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Policy, he would hold hearings into two areas he thought should be looked into, two discrete areas, with respect to the story that we've been told about 9/11. He said he was not at liberty to speak about what the two areas are -- I can understand why he doesn't want to reveal that until the hearings begin, don't see why you don't get it.

(Otherwise, the disinfo campaign would be "hugh11. im series, hugh11 -- that's me talking, not Dennis.) You don't tell the enemy your battle plans and the crew in WH has acted like our enemy.


The guy interviewing him asked him what he would say to people who questioned his motivation, like you did, and Dennis said (paraphrasing but close to exact):

"Well, I don't have to hold hearings on this. I could say it's been investigated, let's move on, but I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that because all over the country people are concerned about 9/ll, about the possibility of a cover-up, and I respect those concerns about whether we have been told the truth. I want to be president and i want to restore people's trust in government by determining the truth about 9/11"

"If in our research, we can tease out contradications and reach some sort of a breakthrough, that might be a reason for the entire committee to re-examine the issue."


Dennis promised an investigation into two dsicrete areas. That may lead to more areas and broader, larger investigations. Hearings must be held before we know what the committe will find. He did NOT promise that he would prove LIHOP or MIHOP but he mentioned that we have been lied to about 9/11 to lead us into war, I think he said that three times -- using the word lied twice and "told a story" once. He also said something to the effect that that was an usual way for a country to go to war, i.e., using false info to promote a war against people who weren't the ones who attacked us.

It's about damn time someone asked a few questions about some things.

And I'll end by telling you that the other day we got an e-mail from someone who is a fundamentalist Christian and has been a staunch supporter of B&C . The e-mail had a link to a film that's 80-90 minutes long about 9/11, assembled by "conspiracy theorists." This former true believer, who happens to be a pilot and a retired air traffic controller, was clearly disturbed by what he saw in that film.

Was it LIHOP? Was it MIHOP? Or was it a bunch of guys who'd had a few flying lessons, took over planes armed only with boxcutters, and managed to hit their targets pretty damn well? I don't know and neither do you but I do know that it WAS a conspiracy because by definition someone conspired to do it. It was not a lone gunman as Lee Harvery Oswald, James Earl Ray, and Sirhan Sirhan were alleged to be, by earlier govt investigations. And if you know anything about the JFK assassination, you must know that the House of Representatives opened a new investigation about 20 years after the Warren Commission assured America that Oswald acted alone, and that the new investigation concluded that Oswald did not act alone, that others were involved.

If you know anything about the MLK and RFK assassinations, you know there was a lot that didn't add up in those investigations, either. The King family did not, presumably still does not, believe James Earl Ray killed MLK.

Police officers don't believe in coincidences, so why shouldn't we question the coincidences w and improbable occurrences we've been asked to believe in regarding all these cases? Maybe it's coincidence, but law enforcement officers are very skeptical about coincidences, some say there are NO coincidences when it comes to crimes.




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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:45 PM
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10. I think the Truth will come out once this New World order fails
and its failing already
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:33 PM
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5. It will be very interesting to see what comes of this!
WTC 7 would be a good place to start for a Domestic Policy subcommittee investigation.

I would like to see the whole WTC disaster subjected to a new investigation -- everything from the numerous explosions involved to the
physical character of the WTC dust and aerosols and the overall environmental and public health impact. That would be more than Kucinich's committee could possibly do alone, but perhaps they can help open up the way to it.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:15 PM
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6. 180-degree flip flop for him
I know because I was with him when someone asked him directly about this subject during the last campaign. But maybe he's finally opening up to the truth that we don't really know what happened.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:28 PM
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7. I'd vote for the latter
Two years ago he was against impeachment as well.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:28 PM
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9. Why say "flip flop"? That's a slang term used against the Dem nominee in 2004

so I think we should avoid using it against or own. Use it against the GOP, not the Dems, please!

Most of us do change our thinking over time about various issues or events as we learn more, gain more experience, gather more information. We make small changes in our thinking and we make some big changes in our thinking, too, some U-turns.

We're all entitled to change our minds when evidence suggests we should. It's good to hold firmly to one's ideals but not to hold so firmly to them that you can never admit doubt, never admit you could be wrong.

Dennis stood up against the war, speaking against invading Iraq as early as February 2002, when the WH didn't announce plans to invade until late September or October 1992, as I recall. I defintely recall that Andy Card said, "You don't roll out a new model in August." (Because many people are on vacation, including the WH resident.) As I recall, there were denials of war plans, yet Dennis had the clear vision to see what was coming down the pike.

I know Dennis spoke out in February 2002 becaus that's when he gave the "A Prayer for America" speech which so many of us read online.

He never stopped speaking out against invading Iraq or against the PATRIOT Act, both of which he voted against. Is there another Democratic presidential candidate who voted against both those actions? Another Democratic candidate who sued GWB in an effort to stop the war?

Dennis learned something that made him take a new view of 9/11. Hurray for a man who uses his brain!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 11:16 AM
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11. I have a feeling Kucinich's "little investigation" will blow the whole 9/11 cover up wide open.
He has motive too. If his investigation prooved to the American People that 9/11 was an inside job, Kucinich would be almost guaranteed the Presidency in the following election.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 04:06 PM
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12. Here's to hoping.
He would be guaranteed a place in history, that's for sure.
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