McCain: Don't Give Me That "Health of the Mother" Crap

[jefferson_dem]

Run time: 00:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGZOyxfiNoU   Posted on YouTube: October 16, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 16, 2008 By DU Member: jefferson_dem Views on DU: 1351

 

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1. This comment from McInsane sooooo pissed me off.

I was ranting at the TV last night after McInsane said that.

My daughter, who is now 20 yr old, almost didn't make it into this world. I had Placenta Previa and at that time, the blood supply was contaminated with HIV and they couldn't yet identify the virus. Every time I lost blood, I would get pumped up with vitamins and iron but would receive no transfusions. Despite the fact that I loss massive amounts of blood, the fetus kept going like the energizer bunny. At that time, I chose to keep the baby but I could have chosen to not risk my life. My doctor said I was within a few minutes of bleeding to death on several occasions.

Knowing I had a choice made me sane and kept me from giving up. The ability to decide the course of my pregnancy, made my decision more heroic and valuable.

But listening to McInsane trivialize and belittle the dangers I accepted to bring my daughter into this world just made me lose it. As if the health of the mother is sooo unimportant as to be totally discounted, of no import in the decision to have a baby or not. We mothers are no more important to the government then the amount of use they get out of our wombs.

Why doesn't McInsane just scream, "No One cares about you (mothers). No one cares if you live or die."? That would seem more to the point.

The health of the mother is no more important to McInsane and his rabid dog Palin, then the well being of an incubator.

[Believing Is Art]

2. I wanted to smack him

Are there any stats on how many partial birth or late term abortions have been performed for reasons other than health or life of the mother?

Do these extreme pro-lifers not understand that in most "health of the mother" situations, the choice is losing the mother and baby or losing the baby? The vast majority of women who have carried that long do not want to lose the child and will look for all other options before terminating the pregnancy.

I only gave my parents a two-month-warning, so I know there are a few cases where a partial birth abortion ban would force women to carry to term no matter what, but isn't that an exception and not the rule? The whole partial birth abortion issue seems to me like the extremists have pulled at heart strings by detailing this awful procedure which unfortunately is the best option for many in a truly terrible situation. It seems like they've made it such a big deal to demonize the pro-choice movement, when in most partial birth abortion cases even many on the pro-life side would agree that it's sad but necessary to save one life instead of losing two.

[tekisui]

3. "partial birth abortion" is a RW term that has been invented to scare people.

THere is no such thing or practice. There is late term abortion, or emergency abortion when the mother's health or life is at risk.

I can't say with certainty, but am pretty sure that the statistic you are looking for is approaching zero.

[Believing Is Art]

4. I figured as much,

but it's something I would like to see actual numbers on. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, it's something I'd like to know in case I am ever on the defensive.

[tekisui]

5. Sure, I will look around for some hard facts on it.

[tekisui]

6. Here is a good article from NPR.

It goes through the history of the term and the procedure.

"According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, an abortion-rights research group that conducts surveys of the nation's abortion doctors, about 15,000 abortions were performed in the year 2000 on women 20 weeks or more along in their pregnancies; the vast majority were between the 20th and 24th week. Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year.

And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal."


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5168163

[Believing Is Art]

7. Thanks! n/t

[Democat]

8. Just shows that McCain is a racist and sexist!

He's pissed off that a black guy is schooling him about issues related to women. McCain looks down on both women and non-white minorities, so it pisses him off twice as much.

[Blu3Beard]

12. I think he's just crazy.

At this point, he hates everything. He's the crotchety old man on the front lawn.

[Quantess]

9. Not even George W Bush would say that.

McCain clearly outdoes W in the belligerent asshole department.

[amyrose2712]

10. Yeah W is more laid back when he

telling us FUCK YOU.

[Quantess]

11. At least W giggles and throws in a lame joke while he's being an a-hole.

[SteveisSellars]

13. McCain

Totally insane. This guy is nuts.