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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:01 PM
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The RACHEL MADDOW smackdown of Pat Buchanan - 7/30/08
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 12:14 PM by burythehatchet
 
Run time: 07:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnaKlgo9y1E
 
Posted on YouTube: July 31, 2008
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Posted on DU: July 31, 2008
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The skirmish begins at about 4:30 and the SMACKDOWN is 20 seconds before the end.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:05 PM
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1. K & R
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:50 PM
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23. I give up.....what does "K & R" mean....???
I've been reading and posting on this site for as long as I can remember...and I have no idea what it means. Help me out.
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coldie6 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:05 PM
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24. Yea, I don't know either
Somebody tell us!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:07 PM
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25. Kicked and Recommended...
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:25 PM
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28. I get the "recommended" part, but wtf is a "kick"?
I've been on DU for years, but am still clueless about the "kick" thing.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:40 PM
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31. replying to a thread 'kicks' it to the top of the list in the forum
so as to keep the original post alive. hope this helps. :hi: :kick:
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #31
65. Is it ok if I use "boost" or "bump" instead?
No reply necessary.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. or 'splode!
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #67
72. Actually...
Posting an "R" automatically becomes a "K" ... or whatever.

Excuse my nonsense. Rachel was great...per usual.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #65
88. We say kick at DU because
It's a :kick:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:22 PM
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94. Thanks ... I think I get it now. check. one less mystery in my universe. ~nt~
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. welcome to DU!
:hi:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #24
45. when you post a reply it bumps the original post up higher on the page
:hi:

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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #24
49. Bienvenue!
:hi:
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:07 PM
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2. Thanks!
Thanks for the link. This is tremendously generous for all DU'ers that thought it would be gone forever!

This looked like MSNBC was trying to make this go down the memory hole.

Hope this link still works when I get home! (no youtube at work allowed!)


-90% Jimmy
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:06 PM
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54. (If it's not there, PM me--I've downloaded it for safekeeping.)
Dear Rachel--will you marry me?

I'm not gay, but I'll convert for you. Whatever you want.

Love her, love her, love her . . . . . :loveya:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #54
76. You gonna hafta get in line...!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:04 AM
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #84
92. How effing RUDE. and OFFENSIVE that comment is!
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:09 PM
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3. Thank you.
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:11 PM
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4. Is there a full transcript available?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. check this Kos diary
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:11 PM
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5. Oh, you know I'm going to K&R this - you go Rachel!
It still amazes me how she can hold her own against 3-5 clueless "pundits" and still remain rational and right.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. The facts and truth have a liberal bias
:)
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:15 PM
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6. Many Thanks!
What an incredible debate! It's absolutely crucial that this video not disappear.

I had read the discussions yesterday. Now that I have seen the video, I am actually pleasantly surprised by how Gregory, Smerconish, and Ford conducted themselves. Maddow's talents and fine conduct are of course no surprise to me, but tremendously appreciated!

Fighting racism is going to be a long haul. Honest discussions about double standards in the MSM and on the national stage are essential to moving forward.

K&R

-app
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:15 PM
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7. K&R even though it's already #1. nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:17 PM
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9. Thank Goodness for the internet and Rachel
Harold 'Edsel' Ford is almost worthless as a Democratic spokesperson
and I refuse to watch that show but

Rachel Rocks!!!!
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. Wow, kudos to Smurconish nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:26 PM
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17. I'm glad it wasn't just Rachel either - so it's not just Pat vs. Rachel - it's Pat vs. facts! nt
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #16
34. Is it just me, or does Rachel Maddow seem to have them working a little harder?
:loveya:
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:55 AM
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81. They definitely have to be on their A game when she's in the room,
and that's how it should be. Rachel Maddow is a great gift, and I am so happy she's been on the pundits shows because when she brings courtesy and eloquence to a discussion formerly filled with innuendo and sniping, they all have to rethink their statements so they don't come off so badly. Good for her.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #81
86. YOu know what else, her voice just cuts over all theirs and that works very well.
:loveya:
........nice.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:38 PM
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21. I love how Rachel has completely emasculated both Pat AND Joey the Scar
they must mumble terrible things when they're being chauffeured home in the evening.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:54 PM
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42. Tell me about it!
At least you didn't have to work to try to get him elected. :puke: I won't do it again.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
62. I am in love with her. n.t.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:19 PM
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11. K & R
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:21 PM
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12. ouch!
She really smacked the old Nazi down!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:22 PM
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13. excellent - somebody save this somehow before it is disappeared! nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. I wish I knew how. Haven't been able to figure it out.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:23 PM
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14. Pat, Pat, Pat.....
.... (that was my Lily Thomlin's "Mrs. Beasley" impersonation)

He's just an old, obsolete fool put on the shows to amuse us and placate the pre-baby-boom generation.

And Rachel is (as usual) right. The bigots are coming out of their closets! This elitist and hubris argument can be summed up as "Know your place, boy".

Obama looks presidential because for the past 8 years we've had a drunken flunky pretending to be a cowboy in the President's chair. My cat would look presidential in the circumstances. But Obama looks even better than my cat because he is also doing his homework. He's trying (and succeeding) to look COMPETENT! That's what everyone wants deep down. Finally, someone who maybe can get things done!
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:24 PM
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15. Game set match Maddow
Pat's a feckin eejit!
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petwlkr Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:27 PM
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18. Oh no she didn't!!!!
Rachel Maddow for VP!!!!!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 12:41 PM
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22. At precisely7:04, you can see the exact second when
Buchanan's ego implodes. Beautiful work by Maddow and a damn fine job by Smerconish as well.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:10 PM
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26. Another Rachael invite to file 13
Rachael Maddow also shot down the whole panel with Scarborough hosting a short while ago. Even reminding The Scar she was outnumbered 4 conservatives to one (I almost busted a gut laughing).

Joe got visibly angry and launched a personal attack on her mumbling about her having the Hillary cackle down pat.
Haven't seen her on a show "The Scar" hosted since .

Let's see if David Gregory gets the word to cross her off his guest list.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:11 PM
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27. this whole "acting too much like President" meme is simply a bs strawman
he's running for the freakin' presidency... how should he be acting? Like the current moron who's been trashing our country for the past eight years? Apparently so. :eyes:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. It is funny when you tell someone that you like the fact that he
is presidential acting.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #27
63. That is what I was thinking too.
I would actually that someone act like a president. We have had anyone acting like one in 8 years!
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:28 PM
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29. Word of advice to these pricks...
...'Don't go up against Rachael Maddow in an open forum. You're gonna get your ass kicked, big time'. I guess I'd like to see her do a point-counterpoint with David Brooks, that would be the ultimate.
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:21 PM
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32. I loves me some Rachel Maddow!
Whip smart and wicked funny. What's not to like!

MSNBC - give this woman her own show, already!!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 02:57 PM
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36. If there's one video everyone on DU should see, this would be it.
How many times has anyone dared to call out Pat Buchanan? I can only imagine what he was saying immediately after, off-camera, and that rage isn't going to go away for a long, long time.

Rachel is one scary smart, unflappably logical analyst. I'm glad she's on *our* side.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. smart and logical, by definition, puts her on our side
:)
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #36
51. Hell yeah. My hero (ine)!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #36
66. His recently diagnosed braing fart must be throbbing uncontrollably by now...
HA HA...
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:06 PM
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37. Harold washington is useless..
and only on these shows to get paid.
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janetblond Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #37
47. That's Harold FORD ... but even if you get his name wrong ...
he's still USELESS.
Never in my life have I ever seen a black man who wants to be "white" so bad!
How pathetic.
He represents NOTHING.
Now wonder he lost Tennessee.
YUCK!
Useless!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. Lol..
I was so angry with him after watching him last night, how did I make that mistake..
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. and a dem who wants to be a repub so badly...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:30 PM
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38. I adore Rachel Maddow.
She's one of the best political advocates we've ever had IMHO.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:34 PM
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39. SMACK! Rachel is one smart cookie!
She is one of the smartest journalists around. There was no malice in what she said, she was merely pointing out facts, and her point of view, which sharply differs from the rest of the old white men in the room.

Oh, and for those of you who think that she dislikes Buchanan, I heard her state on her radio show sometime back, that she actually likes the guy, even though they disagree. Such is life as a political pundit!
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 03:38 PM
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40. You go girl!!!!!
Now if this old ass fossil can disappear into the abyss, I can tolerate the usual crapfest from these so-called panelists! Rachel carried him and then some!!! Rachel has got the snark to shut them all up!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:07 PM
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43. Rachel is fanstasic
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Eugenian Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:14 PM
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44. Digg it!
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:48 PM
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46. The whole world must be watching this video.....
or else MSNBC/GE are trying to rip it off YouTube, because it haltingly plays for me. I have spent 20 minutes trying to watch this video. Is anyone else having problems?
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. It's had less than 4,000 views. I heard this exchange yesterday and it angered me then that....
Buchanan gets to run his mouth endlessly, interrupt others and Gregory does nothing to put him back in his place. Talk about presumptuous.
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 05:59 PM
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53. Allright Rachel! I guess you put that old fart in his place! n/t
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:16 PM
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55. The Southern Strategy
is not going to work this time around. They're going to need to get a new angle.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:23 PM
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56. K&R. n/t
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THale2 Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:39 PM
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57. She got him good
where would we be without Rachel and Keith O....
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:46 PM
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58. That turd Gregory seems to love to repeat all the Republican
talking points when discussing Obama. He is such a tool to me.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:10 PM
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59. Anything with Rachel in, I gotta K & R.
K & R
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:33 PM
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60. Buchanan is a washed-up ideologue who is desperately
trying to be relevant. Problem is the harder he tries the less relevant he becomes. A practical question is why do these shows have him on? Does he work cheap?
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:41 PM
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61. oh she is good
well done..calm and without talking over anyone . she rocks!
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 09:41 PM
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64. School is now in session!
The head mistress is in the house.
Buchanan's sputtering as they went to commercial was priceless!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:33 PM
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68. Pat Buchanan the quintessential "sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot"
and proud of it.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:45 PM
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69. Thank you Violet-- I think he may wish some sweetener with his
coffee...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:46 PM
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70. "Sweetener"?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 11:22 PM
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71. Rachel---I LOVE YOU!!!! Buchanan is a puffed up old windbag
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 12:49 AM
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73. AAAHH
Rachel...
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:00 AM
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74. Pat Buchanan
needs to go and Rachel needs her own show. God, she's smart.:toast:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 01:10 AM
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75. You go, Rachel!!!
A well-deserved gob-smack of Buchanan!

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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:17 AM
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77. Yeah! Bravo, Rachel!
K and R
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 02:33 AM
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78. I love me some Rachel. k&r n/t
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 03:49 AM
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79. Rachel is a real journalist - she brings the facts... a bummer for Rs
Is "negative attack" a euphemism now for "LIE"? What's wrong with using the real word for it?

I think it's relevant to the voters... if a candidate is willing to lie now to win, he'd lie later if elected. This whole "flip-flopping" standard the Rs made up is to distract people from that real issue, and replace a simple real standard with a false and subjective one.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:36 AM
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87. She's never claimed to be a journalist. She's the new American Sportscaster.
One huge problem in modern life is that too many people confuse journalism (the actual digging up and reporting of facts) and punditry/editorializing (fitting reported facts into an opinion/world view).

She's the new American Sportscaster, the sport of course being our politics.

Go Blue! Or whatever. Where do I buy the Tshirt?
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:36 AM
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80. K & R
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 06:27 AM
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82. Dana Milbank = a Skull & Bones member
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 06:59 AM
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83. "GURLLL!!!!" n/t
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 08:20 AM
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85. "...then that says more about YOU than it does about the candidates."
:rofl:

Rachel is a gem and I absolutely adore that woman! Go get 'em, Rachel!!!

K&R
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:05 AM
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89. Buwahahahahah ....SNAP !
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 10:05 AM by L0oniX
Pat Buchanan is a bigot.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:10 AM
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90. Wow. She kicked his nuts clear up into his mouth. Well deserved.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:21 AM
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91. I wish she had asked one/all of them directly why they didn't raise Cain
Edited on Fri Aug-01-08 10:29 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
about McCain calling himself the President. Sometimes, the damning truths we have about the Republicans are so enormous, its seems almost like foul play to really take them to task on them, in a very specific way.

Another example, of course, was the nut-job who pretended that the Democrats hadn't won a majority of the working-class vote, when it is voluminously documented by some of the most prestigious bodies that mammoth election fraud and voter suppression took place - not least by the Supreme Court.

Of course, his advice that Obama should dress down was very mischievous. The urban myth that there were blokes who voted for Bush the first time, at least, because "he seemed the kind of guy you could have a drink with" may have some truth in it! But they would view the Bush family, HST called "yuppies" (Bush senior's grandmother was, I believe, "old money", but his grandfather has been described as a "glorified tyre-salesman"), as old-money toffs, so it would seem to them like a kind of compliment.

However, for Obama, who looks, sounds and acts in an impressively patrician, yet sincerely empathetic, modest way, to dress up in casual clothes and a baseball cap would be an insult to the marginalised black and white communities, and rightly perceived as such by them. They want him to raise them, not patronise them. Maybe Rachel should have asked matey if he thought Obama should wear a baseball cap, back-to-front style.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 12:14 PM
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93. In a nutshell he's a geezer and I'm not saying that in terms of age
but of mindset. The closed mind will always lean on it's familiar pathways. Geezer's are fearful of anything unproven. They are so closed to new thoughts and people that they just shut down. It's unfortunate that so many people will have to deal with their own fear before they can see what the truth is.

Rachel is a powerful woman, good for her for telling geezer the truth about himself!
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:15 PM
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95. Fantastic! (n/t)
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