TYT: Does It Bother You To Find Out A Celebrity You Like Votes Republican?

[ihavenobias]

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[gateley]

1. K&R -- TIM McGRAW! nt

[Jack Rabbit]

2. Actually, no

To be honest, the less I know about the private lives of celebrities the better. It would do Brittney Spears a lot of good if we all knew a lot less about her comings and goings.

As for their opinions on this, that and the other, very few of them are better informed than the average Joe. Just as having been shot down in a fighter plane over Vietnam doesn't mean one ought to be president, having won an Oscar doesn't make one an expert on foreign policy or poverty.

[aspergris]

3. absolutely not

to me this is the perfect acid test of a blind close minded absurdist partisan.

why should I care if a musician, actor, etc. has different politics than me?

Do I like stranglehold less because of Ted Nugent's politics? Of course not.

It's hard to like or dislike a celebrity because I don't KNOW any celebrities. I just know their art and their media image.

I liked the Dixie Chix before their famous bush statement. I didn't like them more OR less afterwards.

etc.

Fwiw, I also don't judge people by their politics. I know that one's character, compassion, etc. are wholly unrelated to their politics.

[ihavenobias]

19. There's a difference between actively boycotting Nugent

and saying "yeah, I like his music but he sucks on politics" and or being a little disappointed.

I'm not a huge Sandler fan anyway though, although he's been in a few good things.

And BTW, one's character and compassion are often reflected in their political choices so I don't really buy that particular argument.

[ToeBot]

27. "one's character, compassion, etc. are wholly unrelated to their politics."... What?

The most absurd thing I've read on these forums in months.

[Deliphus]

30. Re: Nugent

> Do I like stranglehold less because of Ted Nugent's politics? Of course not.

The problem is, with him, is it doesn't stop there. I saw him live in 2002 and he spent the entire concert boasting about "his cowboy President" Bush and ragging on the Clintons. It was boring, infantile, and 100% in error (as events have shown). All the things I've come to expect from a Republican.

I'm sure despite all of the things that have been revealed about Bush, he still does the same. Hard to enjoy a concert with that kind of stupidity going on.

Additional note: keep in mind how in error Teddie was. It has since been revealed (by the Mexican President Fox) that Bush is afraid of horses. Some cowboy!

[asjr]

4. Yes, it bothers me. I used to love

Tom Selleck. I had a nightgown with his face on it. I could say I slept with Tom Selleck. Alas, when I learned he was a Republican I cast away the nightgown and never slept with him again. I miss Tom.

[stillcool]

5. I used to think Dennis Miller was funny...

it isn't who he votes for that bothers me, it's what he says. I've been surprised by some who vote Republican..like Dennis Hopper..but I still watch his movies.

[OhioChick]

6. Sometimes.....

Sometimes not. Depends on who it is! :)

[progdonkey]

7. I think it's good to know they're Republicans...

But not because I'm going to boycott them--it's because it helps dispel that bullshit "Hollywood's run by liberals" canard.

Or you can then at least say "good Hollywood movies are made by liberals," while Republicans make crap like Eight Crazy Nights. Adam Sandler's movies can be funny, but most are complete and utter crap. For every Wedding Singer, there are five Eight Crazy Nights (hell, just go down the list of movies made by his Happy Madison production house, and you could mistake it for an independent list of the worst movies of the past decade). So, should we be shocked that this maker of fine, intelligent Film is a Republican?

I wouldn't condemn a celebrity or boycott their movies/shows just because they're Republicans, though. Just going on whom they donate money to or whom they vote for is not enough reason for me to not want to watch their movies, because there are various reasons why someone would donate to or vote for Candidate A or B. What would put me off are specific comments made. Like, I can't watch a Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson movie anymore without thinking "you're being glib, sugartits, just like those Jews."

Kelsey Grammar's a long-time Republican, and I still watch reruns of Frasier without giving it a second thought.

There are so many reasons for someone to identify with a certain party that you can't condemn (or praise) them merely for being in a particular party.

[Ned_Devine]

8. What about the country guy from Slingblade?

[Zodiak]

9. If I find out that an actor I like is a Repubican,

That irritates me a little bit, but if I find out that they are donating and giving face time for Republican policies, they are dead to me.

That goes for musicians, especially.

Alice Cooper, Gene Simmons....dead to me. The funny thing is...if you ask either one, they think of themselves more as marketers than musicians, anyways.

[booley]

10. I don't base my beliefs on what celebrities think so

..I am going to have to go with no, it doesn't really bother me per se.

I mean, i am exasperated when any oxygen using sentient being votes Republican. It's the equivalent of Chickens supporting KFC. But I don't put celebrities into any special category.

[Politicalboi]

11. "Chickens Supporting KFC"

:rofl: That is so true. Especially gay and black Republicans.

[Yavin4]

12. It's Not Surprising That Pro Athletes Give A Lot of Money To Repigs

1. Most pro athletes are greedy fucking bastards, and they benefit the most from Repig tax cuts.

2. Most pro athletes are acculturated in a strong, paternalistic, male-dominated lifestyle.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. I supress my ga-ga susceptibility when it comes to celebrities

because I have a hair-trigger gag reflex.

[niceypoo]

14. Not unless they go off the deep end...

...like Steven Baldwin

[applegrove]

15. I'll never get over Jimmy Stewart being a republican. I don't care about

anyone else. I just couldn't believe Jimmy Stewart voted so cause i liked him so much and he always played sympathetic characters. That was such a dissappointment.

[ailsagirl]

18. I would have pegged him a Dem... I'm surprised

But I still love his work.

I was amazed to learn that Kelsey Grammar is a repug.
Unbelievable. :grr:

[Stardust]

23. Kelsey Grammer shot us the bird when we were at a Peace Vigil. Jerk. nt

[goddess40]

32. republicans were different back then, it wasn't until Nixon

that they started down the road to fascism. I think people like Stewart who were rich and isolated truly believed they achieved their status on their own.

[rontun]

33. Stewart played sympathetic characters

But remember - it was acting. He was an actor.

[MadrasT]

16. Feh.

I ignore so called "celebrities," so it doesn't matter one way or the other to me.

[ComtesseDeSpair]

17. Absolutely

I lose all respect for ANYBODY who votes Republican - celebrity or not. I still haven't gotten over Angelina Jolie saying that she wasn't sure who she was going to vote for this year yet. What the ??? You lived in New Orleans and you're not sure who to vote for??? I lost all respect for her with that one ambiguous statement.

[rebel with a cause]

21. Angelina did not live in New Orleans when the flood hit

and she was probably just being diplomatic when she said she didn't know who she would vote for. (wasn't that before the democratic primary ended) Brad Pitt (and I imagine that would be her also) offered to work for Obama when he first announced his running, but he put them on hold. She is a bit busy right now to take an active role in politics. When the GE starts, I can bet you that there will come a time that he, if not she, will be endorsing Obama.. If not, I will sure be disappointed.

After that point, I agree with you about respecting anyone who votes republican. Pre-Bush, I really don't care but from 2000 on, if you support the republican way - then you are dead to me. No Fraiser, no Adam Sandler movies, no more reality shows (uggh anyway) with the right leaning idiots, and definately no Chuck Norris shows or Charleton Heston movies. I bought a Dixie Chick DVD when I didn't have a player, and I have supported artists that I don't even like their work that much if they are out spoken opponents of bush and company. I take the the destruction of this country very personal and hold anyone that is a part of it, who ever they may be, responsible for the part they play in it. By the way, I boycotted a restaurant here (and other businesses) for four years because they are big republican supporters.

[ihavenobias]

22. Funny first sentence! n/t

[Butch350]

20. No...

Because I just like the characters my favorite actors play. Outside of that I could give a ratz azz what they do.

[DutchLiberal]

24. Well, I was a little shocked when I found out...

Kelsey Grammer supported Rudi Guilliani. I always thought he was such an intelligent man. (But maybe I got him mixed up with his alter ego Frasier...)

[emilyg]

25. Not at all.

[Tutonic]

26. Yes it does. The most repulsive one is Ted Nugent. The man is

a bonafide ground squirrel--cuz he be a nut.

[DailyGrind51]

28. Hey, they vote their own wealthy self-interest. I get that!

My present earnings are shit, so I vote for the candidate favoring policies serving those similar to me.

[ihavenobias]

29. Yeah, except there's one thing I don't get about that

If you're rich, it's not like you're going to become poor if a Democrat is in office.

So why not vote on OTHER issue, like energy policy, foreign policy, the environment, potential supreme court nominees, etc.?

People in the lower/middle class NEED to worry about paying the bills and keeping our jobs. But people in the upper class need only worry about maintaining their lifestyle, which again, they should be able to do reasonably well either way.

[DailyGrind51]

35. "Liberal" celebs get that, but "Conservative" celebs feel they have

to be in continuous self-protection mode.

[DailyGrind51]

39. I like Alec Baldwin's films and his politics, but think he is a jerk, as a human being

for the way he talked to his little daughter on that phone message.

[goddess40]

31. The right wingers destroy careers over this very topic

and many lefties don't take it into account. Which I believe drives the right wingers to be even more rabid about those celebrities that express liberal views.

And yes it does effect the way I see these people, just as it does with my personal acquaintances. I can't give my hard earned money to some rich asshole because he/she happens to have talent, so they can turn around and give it to a party that wants to destroy my country.

[goddess40]

34. Could we have some links to these lists?

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/4221

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=occ&occ=Actor&search=Search

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/16/celebs-add-star-power-to-08-donor-lists/

http://www.celebritydetective.com/celebdonations.html

If someone has a better one I'd sure like to see it.

[seasat]

36. Celebrity opinions don't mean much to me but their endorsements count.

I don't assume public persona equals the actual person. A public persona given off by any celebrity can be crafted to present a certain image. The actual person if you could get to know them can be very different. Someone you think of as a jerk in public due to media coverage of some of their foibles may actually be a wonderful human being once you get to know them. The converse is also true.

Secondly, most public figures are one trick ponies. They achieve fame because they do one thing very good. While I've heard some very intelligent and informed speech from celebrities, I assume that most of them are less informed on political matters than myself. I usually spend an hour each day reading up on news and current events. Most of these celebrities don't have that kind of time since they are focused on the talent that made them famous. Therefore, I put their opinion at a much lower level than an expert with academic credentials and experience in a given area.

However, the main benefit of a celebrity supporting a cause I agree with is that they have a bigger microphone to publicize that cause. While their opinions don't carry as much weight with me, I do sometimes favor the work of a celebrity that shares support for a good cause. I'll also boycott the celebrity that acts as a spokesperson for a cause I disagree with. The reason being is that if a celebrity is supporting a good idea, then their effectiveness as a microphone for that idea is greater if they are more popular. If enough folks boycott a celebrity that supports an idea or politician I disagree with then their effectiveness is diminished.

[Mugsy]

37. I remember Henry Winkler on the Tonight Show. (Bush lover).

I'll never forget seeing Henry Winkler (aka "The Fonz") on the Tonight Show back in 2004.

Big Bush fan. When talking about the Moron-in-Chief, he let out this big sigh like his constipation had passed, smiled and said, "Don't you just feel SAFE knowing that he's in the White House?" I 'bout puked.

Pity. I've liked a lot of the stuff he's done in the past. I wonder where he stands now?

[KansDem]

38. I still watch Cary Grant and Robert Mitchum...

Grant opened the 1980 GOP convention, and Mitchum the 1992...

I still watch their movies, however, some of Mitchum's behavior has come to light that makes me think he wasn't the nicest guy to be around, Republican or not. That has taken the sheen off his movies somewhat...