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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 03:57 PM
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Howard Dean: We need rules. Wasserman Schultz: Concern about rules unproductive
 
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"Congresswoman and Hillary supporter, Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) states while advocating for a new "Do-Over" Florida primary that we need to stop worrying about whether rules were broken and that "all of this talk about the rules and that kind of thing is counterproductive".

Yeah, we don't need no stink'n rules!"
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:05 PM
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1. Without rules you have anarchy -- just animalistic, survival-of-the-fittest
which may suit the Clintons fine, but isn't a great way to
run anything (a society, a political party) unless you want
perpetual instability, fear, turmoil ...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:06 PM
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2. Sigh
I want the sane and logical Debbie W-S back.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:12 PM
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3. All of HRC's surrogates seem delusional at this point.
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N4457S Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:38 PM
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7. Yeah...
...they're delusional enough to know they'll all be back for her race in 2012.

A thousand people per day move to Florida. Some of them are progressive but most of them aren't.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:57 PM
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11. So they're not delusional, just creepy people who don't care about the party??
Florida is my beloved home state ~ I have great hopes that voters there will see the light!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:14 PM
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4. idiot
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:20 PM
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5. She is giving me raw nerves....she just talks and talks.
All talking points, never addresses the issue.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:31 PM
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6. Which Republicans are you going to endorse this cycle Debbie?
Besides Hillary, I mean.

Go Cheney yourself!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:44 PM
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8. Because some day, this may bite you in the ass
Insisting on "strict performance" has a way of doing that.

You know how you're always nyah-nyahing about how Hillary did this and Hillary did that?

Well, John McCain and his friends in the press are a whole lot better at it than we Democrats are. And they will have NO difficulty in citing The Rules -- and Barack Obama's previous statements -- to the American public.

Especially if it's a very tight race.

It was easy to whack Hillary when you had the press with you. Well, the press may love Obama, but they married McCain.

--p!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:50 PM
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9. Oh, wait, you are blaming me? Okay. Whatever you think.
Let's just all break rules and pretend we didn't.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:05 AM
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19. So this is all about you? I don't think so.
Do I really have to write "you (pl.)" all the time?

Do the activists of Team Obama at DU really have such thin skin?

(And do I really have to ask?)

But enforce those rules, every jot and tittle. I'm sure that half of Obama's possible Democratic voters will be okay with taking the blame and submitting to punishment meted out by the primary's sore winners.

Of course, they may not be Obama's eventual Democratic voters. 'Cause there's no rule that says anyone who is a Democrat has to vote for him.

--p!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:12 AM
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20. That sounds too much like bluster to take seriously.
.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:16 AM
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21. So, hear what you want.
That works so well in politics.

--p!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:51 PM
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10. "All of this stuff about the rules....and that sort of thing"
What a PUTZ!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:01 PM
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12. This is why HRC hasn't dropped out.
She's counting on her party just ignoring everything and giving her the nod anyway.

Debbie's a good example of why that could happen.

Hillary wants to cheat her way into the White House.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:14 PM
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13. Florida is Hillary's ace in the hole.
.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:10 PM
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14. That's what I mean about cheating.
Florida took itself out of play. The candidates agreed to it. Her Royal Highness wants to change the rules.

That's cheating.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:13 PM
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15. It is.
You are right.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:30 PM
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16. Thought we were on the same page; was just making sure
:toast:
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 09:15 PM
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17. Forida is the Bush/Clinton aka Corp ace in the hole
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:36 AM
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18. A kick for rules.
.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM
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22. I would remind that Florida is a "zero tolerance" state, whether you
know the rules or not.

"Don't Blog Me" Debbie knew the rules and violated them. Then she pinned on a "Screw Dean" pin to party with her buds and try to blame Gov. Dean for enforcing the rules of the rules committee.

As I have stated before, they were not concerned about Florida voters until they lost their Super Delegate status also.

Boo Hoo, live with it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:31 AM
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23. Amen to all you said.
She even had the nerve to tell one blogger to get the other bloggers off her back.

So many have done so much good in their terms, but they sold themselves and their credibility out for their candidate.
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