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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:28 AM
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Fascism - How to Spot it .How to Protect yourself Part 1 of 2
 
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:11 AM
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1. thank you for posting this. I grew up in Portland and know those bus shelters
hearing the cops talk that way about peaceful protesters was chilling.

I disagree with the person who narrated this when she said this is why you should try to cover your face. Someone wearing a mask is not a person, your neighbor, or cousin, and therefore it is easier to give them the beat down without a second thought. And if you don't have a mask on, someone who knows you but didn't know how strongly you feel about the issue might see you on TV.

I also disagree with some of the protesters who said "fuck you" and flipped off the police. Better to remind they are on our side with signs like:

COPS: protect democracy not kleptocracy

COPS: they'll send you to Iraq next
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:09 AM
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2. True. Although in highly volatile situations where the threat of violence is real, people act out
Differently, more irrationally, than they might otherwise.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:26 AM
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3. I always think of why MLKs non-violence made such a profound impression on America
If you saw some white cops beating on non-violent blacks, it was obvious who was in the wrong. If you had seen the two sides fighting, you might be tempted to think both sides are equally at fault or if you harbor even a scintilla of racism yourself, that the cops might be doing what's necessary.

The purpose of the demonstration is the effect it has on the casual observer and the people watching TV.

Also, acting violently toward the police is like kicking a pit bull. It might feel good, but you will end up worse off than the dog.

I think the Powell Doctrine should apply to use of violence by the public too: Have a clearly defined goal, overwhelming force, overwhelming public support, and a clear exit strategy.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:05 PM
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5. Oh, in NO WAY was I defending civilians being beaten down by riot goons
Be it during the civil rights era, or now.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:16 PM
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6. I didn't think you were. I meant that hostile protesters can make it easier for media to distort
message.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:35 AM
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7. Sure ...or plant cops to antagonize/start fights to justify riot measures, blaming citizens for it
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:14 AM
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8. yep
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:28 AM
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4. I posted this on my blog LINK
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