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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:18 AM
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Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Clinton ain't never been called...
 
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This is a church seremon? Nice...
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:28 AM
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1. Nice "C" student dig. Other than that, I have to say, I am uncomfortable
having politics discussed in churches.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 10:53 AM
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2. So is the IRS
I hear the good pastor is under investigation.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:05 AM
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3. Yes, separation of church and state, and all that........
I find the Rev. quite disturbing. Instead of just limiting himself to praising Obama, he had to go into race baiting mode. The comments he made about Hillary were extremely inappropriate and divisive. I go to church to be lifted spiritually, not to hear my pastor tear down fellow Christians. I would have walked out and changed churches if either of my pastors talked like that about anybody.

Truly disgusting behavior for a man of God!!!

:thumbsdown:
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:27 PM
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9. Let's hope so. nt
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:04 PM
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4. Uh oh
This is not good for Obama.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:09 PM
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6. this should get air time...alot of it!
Pure hate!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:08 PM
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5. When will Barack Obama reject his Rev Wright ? Horrid!
He had sermons attacking Hillary about Bill Clinton and Monica as well...I 'm sorry, this is unacceptable!
Obama needs to apologize and explain more about his attraction to so many questionable characters.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:59 PM
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22. You go there and you will bring up Reverend Moon and your
friend Hillary. Can we please leave church and state separate? I tell you as a person whose faith comes from within all of this baa baaing about ministers is very disturbing. You should stay out of other peoples religious business. Really!@ Enough!
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:26 PM
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7. Who is 'the enemy', as Wright proclaims so righteously here?
This is very troubling, inflammatory race-based rhetoric. Hillary's sin is to have the wrong skin colour and family background, I guess.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:26 PM
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8. Although this is a dupe post,
...it can't get exposed enough.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:36 PM
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10. I was kind of ignoring those posts about this Pastor....but this is pretty
bad. :eyes: White People are the enemy...because they are all rich going back to the Romans...where they were all white? Huh? There are no rich powerful Black People? I can think of Vernon Jordon for one and quite a few on Wall St. and former head of AOL/Time Warner, Dick Parsons...and the heads of BETV and many, many more.

Do wealthy White People control alot. Yes...but does that mean they are ALL to be villified with such broad sweeping statements?

He sounds pretty racist to me...even if it's hyperbole...for his congregation. We don't like this stuff when White Fundie Evangelicals preach political hatred. I don't see why this Pastor gets a pass. :shrug:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:54 PM
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11. Interesting. The press would not give Edwards the time of
day when he voiced some of these concerns. I guess sometimes a poor black man (please understand that I use the word "man" to include women) from the country can get a better chance to be heard than a poor white man from the country. Dr. Wright needs to listen and find Christian compassion for people who are not black.

If he just did a little research, he would find that many of us white folks are from very humble circumstances. A surprising number of us get passed up because of our country looks, our country manners, our country clothes, our homemade haircuts and our cheap shoes. Just don't try to get a job on Wall Street dressed like a hillbilly. And don't think for a minute that a white person can cover up for a less than privileged family background. It's hard to fake who you are.

While the percentage of African-Americans who are very poor is higher among African-Americans than the percentage of whites who are very poor is among whites, I would be very surprised if the number of poor African-Americans exceeds the number of poor whites. African-Americans are more aware of the horrible treatment they get, and historically that treatment has been a lot more discernible and openly cruel -- in the south, Jim Crow signs, separate water fountains, separate restrooms, separate waiting rooms, sitting in the back of the bus, etc., but those visible wrongs gave rise to the civil rights movement and solidarity among African-Americans.

The cruel fact about dispossessed whites is that they have no social identity, no framework of support at all in our society. They have no Rev. Wrights to speak for them. They are voiceless and hidden and therefore really much worse off than the dispossessed African-Americans who at the very least have a social network.

And don't tell me that a poor white man is more likely than a poor black man to rise up in society. It does happen. And although there was a time when it was far more likely that a white man or woman could rise socially than it was for a black man or woman, it is just as difficult nowadays. No amount of intelligence, academic success, even professional success ever makes up for a childhood of poverty. And the number of white people who rise up from truly indigent childhoods is very, very small. And the rags to riches rise for both white and black people is getting more and more difficult.

Rev. Wright means well for "his people," but he is forgetting that Jesus spoke for all dispossessed people, not just for the dispossessed of his own ethnic and racial community. The first rules that Jesus set aside were those that would have required him to shun or treat as less valuable people of other ethnic groups. Rev. Wright is betraying Jesus' message with his raciocentric view.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:12 PM
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12. "When they see gain to be had, they think of justice."
Justice is serious work.

You have to have both sides to be able to see the middle!

MLK said to practice non-violence. Right action and Do No Harm.


Perhaps he is kind of a "thespian" preacher.
I do not see why he shouldn't be able to point things out.
I liked watching/hearing him.

I am an old white woman, raised Christian but probably more a Buddhist now.

I have not been to a Church lately. Once in a while I listen to the pastor online at http://www.seattleunity.org/ The last one I listened to was "Right Speech Right Action"
by Karen Lindvig about speaking the truth with kindness and compassion.

We support AFSC as my husband came from a Quaker background. His grandfather built a Quaker Church in Iowa that became part of the Underground Railroad. We have so appreciated their work with their Eyes Wide Open exhibits.

I also like to watch street musicians singing the truth for free. Where I work, the Pike Place Market, 8 of 10 buskers are anti war musicians. You rarely hear lyrics like theirs on the radio.


Confucius said, "Cultivated people have nine thoughts.
When they look, they think of how to see clearly.
When they listen, they think of how to hear keenly.
In regard to their appearance, they think of how to be warm.
In their demeanor, they think of how to be respectful.
In their speech, they think of how to be truthful.
In their work, they think of how to be serious.
When in doubt, they think of how to pose questions.
When angry, they think of trouble.
When they see gain to be had, they think of justice."


No flames please, it is the only sermon I have heard this man speak.




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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:26 PM
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13. My Minister Demanded My Church Members Not Vote For JFK in 1960!
And I am a white woman and there was never one black person in our Church. This Bible Church I went to in Ohio handed out pamphlets that said that Kennedy would be handing over the Presidency to the Pope! Right - It is a little funny now to think that they thought like that. It wasn't funny then and I supported JFK and because of it I was told not to come back to Church with my JFK button on. I left the Church at 15 1/2 and never went back to any Church again.

Now as for how I feel about this Rev. Wright's speech - I think I can understand where he is coming from, but if some of the parishioners did not agree with him they should have the right to disagree. There are so many white Churches out there that are telling their members to vote for McCain that it doesn't surprise me either. It is happening in all areas of our Country and I think the IRS if it comes down on Rev. Wright should then come down on ALL Churches for the same thing!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:57 PM
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14. Yeah, she's just been called an 'opportunistic c-nt', 'satan', the list is long.

Of course, nobody's ever called her the N-word. I wonder why that is?

Oh, right.
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myhawgoff Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:28 PM
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15. Thanks Dr. Wright
I should not vote for Hillary because she is rich, privileged and white. Got it. :puke:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:38 PM
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16. This is why Barack must leave that church.
Wright is an ignorant racist. And he hurts the country. The only thing I agree with him is the whole self reliance. People have to do things for themselves. Do not expect the government to help you. Other than that he is a piece of trash.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:51 PM
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17. He needs to sever ties with this "church" sooner...
rather than later. This may be Obama's "Sister Souljah" moment. We'll see how he handles it. Probably won't hear much unless the real (non-Fox) MSM picks it up. Sometimes they take the bait, and sometimes they don't. You never know what the echo chamber will do.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:20 PM
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25. He can NOT seperate himself from this man...Obama "Wright has been my spiritual adviser for 20 yrs"
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:06 PM
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18. Whats so bad about that
Are people denying that black men have it harder than privlidged white people? This may turn off some reagan democrats, but I don't find it offensive.

And didn't Bush get massive support from churches that are far more radical than this?
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BrklynGreenDog Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:07 PM
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19. As an Italian American I am outraged at his racism
Yes Romans are Italians who are responsible for black slavery in America.

I expect a public apology from B. Obamama... never.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:18 PM
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24. that makes 15 of us ...my family
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sgtyellerdawg Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:30 PM
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20. I am ready for this to be OVER!
Wow. That was just so very unChristian to me.

This whole "race" thing is getting uglier by the day. I am beginning to believe that Obama's camp is actually playing the race card. I did not want to believe it at first but when you hear rhetoric like that coming from his preacher it makes me wonder.

My local paper had a headline today in regards to the election that said: "Whites Reject Obama" and then went on to write about how he has won more states, more delegates and more popular votes than Hillary. How in the hell can whites be "rejecting" him when blacks make up about 13% of the nation's population yet he is racking up wins? Somebody is voting for him and my guess is it is white folks...the headline was nothing more than somebody trying to fan the flames around here.

I am ready for all of this to be OVER!!

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sloquick Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:41 PM
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21. Pretty Inflammatory
I don't think any democrat hates Obama.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:16 PM
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23. if Obama gets the nom we will lose the White House...this is his "Spiritual Adviser" for 20 years
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 05:17 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:16 PM
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27. And don't think McCain won't be playing this like a violin n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:44 PM
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26. kick....he seems to be trashing Hillary for her white skin....saying she never had
problems with "cab drivers." Any Woman...BLACK OR WHITE has had problems with worrying if they'd be raped or passed by because they were female. Would the Cab Driver think they were a victim? Would the "Construction Workers" that she passed by to get to the cab...stop with a "whistle" or would they "go for her."

No...Hillary as a female has never known any discrimination or intimidation out there in the world...
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:19 PM
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28. I hate to sound harsh ...
but I've known black cab drivers who wouldn't pick up blacks, because they said blacks don't tip.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 06:32 PM
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29. This party is doomed if Obama is our nom.
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