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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:57 PM
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"EXPLOSIVE DOCS-MEMO IS ONE MORE NAIL IN COFFIN FOR BUSH!": LARRY JOHNSON
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:04 PM by kpete
April 18, 2006
The State INR Memo on Plame
by
Larry C Johnson

If you have not seen the copy of the State Department memo detailing what State knew (or did not know) about Joe Wilson's efforts to determine if Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Niger, check it out. Those not familiar with the format should pay attention to some particulars:

1. A paragraph is classified based on the information it contains. For example, if it is "Official" information but not classified the author could label it "FOUO" (which means, For Official Use Only) or "LOU" (Limited Official Use).

..............

5. The really exposive news are the six documents listed as "Attachments". This provides the first comprehensive list of the different documents that discounted attempts by Iraq to buy uranium from Niger. Remember, Joe Wilson said in his op-ed from July 2003 that there were at least four documents that dealt with this issue. Once again, Joe is wrong. THERE WERE SIX!

This memo is one more nail in the coffin containing the lies Bush told to take us to war. The memo vindicates Joe Wilson and should remind the public that his wife's identity was a SECRET. That is why the paragraphs with her name and/or identity are classified as SECRET.

more at:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/04/the_state_inr_m.html#more
Memo: http://www.nysun.com/pics/31062_2.php
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:03 PM
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1. Question about the blacked out sections..
Do these in themselves constitute a cover-up?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:07 PM
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4. #s 2,3,4
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:44 PM by kpete
2. When a paragraph is labeled S/NF (Secret/No Forn) that means the information is SECRET and not to be shared with foreigners. The mere mention of Valerie Wilson's name required that the paragraph be classified. If she was not undercover, the paragraph could have (and should have) been classified as LOU or FOUO. The New York Sun editors are morons.They don't even understand this basic point.

3. On the second page of the State Department memo we encounter a blacked out section in the third paragraph from the top. Looks like the words, "Exlusive Dissemination" were excised. I would also note that the term, "ORCON", means "Originator Controlled". In other words, the person who wrote the intel controls the classificaion of it as well as its dissemination.


4. The last paragraph on page four indicates that the forged documents were brought to the United States through Defense Department (not State Department) channels. This helps explain how the documents found their way into the Office of the Vice President.
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/04/the_state_inr_m.html#more
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:05 PM
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2. nice article - and a question
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:12 PM by NewJeffCT
Johnson has had some great articles over the past 6 months or so.

My question - since the neocons are so fond of the "Unitary Executive" theory, can't we claim that since Bush is the unitary executive, the memo is his responsibilty 100%. Since it came from the executive branch, he must have known about it, and therefore knowingly lied.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:07 PM
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21. Add to that "the Decider." n/t
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:05 PM
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3. As many nails as that coffin has,
The pallbearers need a forklift.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:12 PM
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5. No kidding -- every time I see that metaphor applied to bush...
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:14 PM by 0rganism
...I get this mental image of a coffin FILLED WITH NAILS. I mean, filled to overflowing with everything from tacks and brads to 40-penny spikes. And Dems are dancing all around this thing, pointing at it, laughing, getting everyone to notice, but no one can lift the dang thing up to drop it in the grave where it belongs. Too many nails.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:14 PM
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6. Amen.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:44 PM
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9. I get an image of Dracula.n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:53 PM
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11. touche!
:rofl:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:23 PM
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7. Another Day, Another Nail
And our Democratic "leadership" keeps hammering their thumbs instead of the nails.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:52 PM
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10. There are so many nails in that coffin, that if it fell overboard,
it would sink to the bottom.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:24 PM
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12. There are so many nails in that coffin it should be considered
an environmental hazard. *rim shot*

Thank you. Thank you very much.


Sorry. I couldn't help myself. :blush:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:47 PM
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13. Sorry, but what are these "attachments"?
Are all of them from Joe Wilson? Or are there others? Maybe from the State Dept?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:48 AM
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14. from
The State Department
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:49 AM
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15. Bush's license to out our own agents, BrewsterJennings/Plame
should have expired by now due to Congressional action. Instead we get a do-nothing Congress run by R's.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:52 PM
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16. OK, how many f*cking nails does it take?
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 02:37 PM
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17. The freaking coffin is made of nails, every one holding it together
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 02:38 PM by malmapus
Least that's the way it feels to me. I wonder how many of the f*cking things it is going to take.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 02:40 PM
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18. really! what's Bush gotta do? blow someone's brains out on live tv
to get booted from office!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 02:45 PM
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19. Nails, nails, nails!
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 02:53 PM by eppur_se_muova


EDIT to add "the champ"
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 07:05 PM
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22. The problem is we need stakes, not nails.
Remember who(what) we're dealing with here.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 02:48 PM
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20. The coffin is probably pure nails at this point!
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