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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:30 AM
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Forbes: “When US Has The Confrontation With Iran, Price of Oil Will Drop"
Steve Forbes: “When We Have The Confrontation” With Iran, “The Price of Oil Will Come Down”

Appearing on Fox News this weekend, Steve Forbes said the way to lower gas prices is to “have the confrontation with Iran.” Forbes warned Fox viewers that “the longer we let it fester, the higher the price of oil will stay.”



Transcript:

FORBES: Well, it’s interesting. And about $15 a barrel on the price of oil today is worry about Iran, that crisis.

HOST: So, without Iran, the price of oil would be $15 less per barrel is what you’re saying.

FORBES: Yes, it would. There is real uncertainty, huge producer. But the bottom line with Iran is, when we have the confrontation, which we will have, we can really deal with that crisis. Then the price of oil will come down. The longer we let it fester, the higher the price of oil will stay.

Watch the video here.....

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/17/forbes-iran-oil-prices/


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:33 AM
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1. Can we have a war with the Dutch so tulip bulbs will be less expensive?n/t
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:34 AM
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5. And pot seeds?
.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:36 AM
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34. Look at it in this context though... Article from 08-30-05
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 11:40 AM by converted_democrat
http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2005/08/30/afx2195813.html

SYDNEY (AFX) - Oil prices are set to crash from this week's record highs as a speculative market bubble bursts with an impact that could make the hi-tech bust of 2000 'look like a picnic', business publisher Steve Forbes has predicted.

Forbes said the high oil prices currently dampening the US economy, which peaked at more than 70 usd a barrel yesterday as Hurricane Katrina headed for the US Gulf Coast, would fall to 30-35 usd a barrel within a year.

'I'll make a bold prediction... in 12 months, you're going to see oil down to 35-40 usd a barrel,' he said, according to Agence France-Presse.
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So he's either full of BS, or they've been planning the attack on Iran for awhile.. Or both..

on edit- I think Iran will block the Strait of Hormuz, and make prices go through the roof..

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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:33 AM
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2. Yuk
Yuk. What twisted logic.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:33 AM
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3. By that logic
we need to hit Venezuela and Nigeria too. Bleh
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:59 AM
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18. Just think what it would do if we hit Saudi Arabia
Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, pretty soon it would be down to zero.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:43 PM
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44. regime change is the mantra
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:33 AM
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4. Until OPEC embargoes us, anyway. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:38 AM
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9. That's complete madness
n/t
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:38 AM
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6. Give these idiots an Emmy....that is some GREAT ACTING
There has not been one oil tanker sunk in the Persian Gulf since when...and oil prices are already high?

If Bush & Co. start lobbing missiles at Iran, and Iran starts sinking oil tankers, the price of oil is gonna actually go *down*?

Steve Forbes and friends at Faux News needs to lay off the crack pipe for a bit.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:38 AM
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7. From the mouth of a PNAC criminal...So he and his buddies will drop prices
when we invade for them. We are being held hostage by these bastards. So his greedy buddies in the oil industry making 300% profits can't do anything about the prices we pay? This freak is a liar and he is holding us hostage.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:38 AM
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8. So this is how they plan to 'sell' another war?
"Get behind us on this one, and we'll give you a little (temporary) relief at the gas pump."

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:21 AM
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31. My first thought, too! n/t
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:39 AM
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10. Teve Torbes is another idiot son who never did anything on his own
I just wish his old man was alive to slap some sense into him.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:40 AM
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11. "$15 a barrel on the price of oil today is worry about Iran"
The mere thought of a confrontation with Iran makes gas shoot up, so let's actually do the thing it is worried about and that will HELP!?!?!?!?! He's not that stupid. What is his agenda? War makes money for corporations? War sells Forbes magazine? Does he have oil stocks? That is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard if he really believes that.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:40 AM
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12. What kind of propaganda bullshit is that?
What a load of garbage.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:41 AM
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13. OMG, this man is insane. The price of oil will skyrocket on an attack in
Iran. It doesn't take a freaking economist to understand that. Gee, remove even more oil exports from the market, that'll make prices go down. Yeah Right!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:48 AM
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36. I agree with you, but it looks like he's been pushing the idea of lower
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 11:54 AM by converted_democrat
oil prices since 08-30-05.. Look at post #34, the article is there.. Either they've been planning to attack Iran for awhile, or he's full of shit or both.. It's kind of creepy when you read the article and put it in today's context..
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Edited to add article, and link..

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2005/08/30/afx2195813.html

SYDNEY (AFX) - Oil prices are set to crash from this week's record highs as a speculative market bubble bursts with an impact that could make the hi-tech bust of 2000 'look like a picnic', business publisher Steve Forbes has predicted.

Forbes said the high oil prices currently dampening the US economy, which peaked at more than 70 usd a barrel yesterday as Hurricane Katrina headed for the US Gulf Coast, would fall to 30-35 usd a barrel within a year.

'I'll make a bold prediction... in 12 months, you're going to see oil down to 35-40 usd a barrel,' he said, according to Agence France-Presse.
----------
So he's either full of BS, or they've been planning the attack on Iran for awhile.. Or both..

on edit- I think Iran will block the Strait of Hormuz, and make prices go through the roof..
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:48 AM
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14. Also oil will be cheaper if you use Confederate Currency.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:50 AM
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15. The facts point to the opposite:
Since the Iraq war, OIL has only gone up and the profits of oil companies and defense contractors are reflected in their market indexes.

The only companies thriving from war in the middle east are shown graphically in my sig.

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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:56 AM
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16. Say what?
How will disrupting the flow of oil make the price go down? Have we jumped into another universe? Reducing supply raises prices. At least thats what I have always thought.

Or is this another one of those, "they will welcome us with flowers" moments?

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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:17 AM
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25. And the "War will pay for itself - no taxpayer monies will be required"
comments. These guys are geniuses.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:58 AM
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17. Friggin' Idjit! When the Strait of Hormuz is closed...
just how high will the price go?

Who the hell is Steve Forbes to be talking about this anyway?



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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:59 AM
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19. Ship him and his entire goddamn family to Iran, then
:grr:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:59 AM
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20. Forbes is full of baloney
The rise in oil prices is due to some developing nations becoming more developed: in particular, China and India, both of which have large populations and need oil to fuel their economies. Those two nations will now be buying it at greater quantities, which will mean that there will be more competition among buyers for the product. This explains why production is at an all time high, yet so are prices. Demand has outstripped supply.

No one producer figures into it. If Forbes wants to use mass murder to bring down oil prices, it would make more sense to nuke China.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:59 AM
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21. What a reckless and irresponsible comment!
Not to mention completely loonytunes!!!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:00 AM
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22. Sure, just like Iraq made the prices go down...
Face it, if any two oil-producing countries go to war with anything more deadly than sticks, the price of oil goes up.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:01 AM
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23. I saw we go with his plan
as long as he's willing to be strapped to the first cruise missle.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:11 AM
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24. I thought cocaine was the drug of choice for those money types
not CRACK.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:19 AM
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26. Right-o, Steve.
Four million barrels a day of Iranian oil production suddenly unavailable to world markets means demand exceeds supply by millions of barrels a day (current demand: right at 83-84M bbl/day; supply at about 85M bbl/day...the margins are razor-thin); if anything, oil prices will go up (I wouldn't be surprised if the $100/bbl mark was touched if not surpassed).

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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:49 AM
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27. Yeah Steve, yer a counterintuitive genius. Hadn't thought of that.
wow, yeah, unlike with every other war in that region EVER, it will different THIS TIME, and oil prices will drop! I want to see the fucktard lay on money on that prediction.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:06 AM
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28. These bastards see war as a way of making money
They are capitalism at its worst. Those Fox money shows have some really sick, right-wing, twisted monsters.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:07 AM
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29. Forbes is more consistently wrong that Faux News
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 11:08 AM by Jacobin
and that takes some doing.

That guy and his magazine are ideologues. Go back and read some issues from 2001-2003 on their predictions and their 'ideas' about world events and compare them to current events.

Forking idiots
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:15 AM
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30. Congrats Steve, you found something dumber to say then your flat tax!
Fucking idiot.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:22 AM
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32. it just shows that they will say anything to get what they want.
I don't think he's been reading much on this. He forgot the reprisal attacks and the ensuing embargo. It's not like we're going to roll over Iran like we did Iraq.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:32 AM
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33. What a dolt.
Iran will make oil so expensive here it will be cheaper for a family of four to buy tickets for the movies than to drive to the theater.

Venezuela will make up the cut off of oil sales to the Asian and European countries, and also stop selling to the U.S. They will be thrilled and the only place we'll be able to get ANY oil will be from Canada. If we're lucky !

Then plan for a never before heard of in this country explosion of suicide bombings by the Muslim population and sleeper cells living peacefully now in America. They will make Iraq look like Switzerland.

Forbes you are a 48 karat academey award winning mentally deranged dolt.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:44 AM
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35. pre senile dementia
if his point is that getting the confrontation with Iran over & out of the way PEACEFULLY, so markets no longer worry about it, i guess it makes sense.

"the spice must flow" - the spacing guild, dune
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:29 PM
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37. There is a long of wisdom in DUNE
Sometimes it is hard to separate SciFi from Current events.

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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:35 PM
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38. Forbes is a PNAC Ghoul
I'm not surprised that he's tring to justify military action against Iran with unmitigated bullshit...it's the PNAC way, doncha' know?
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:47 PM
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39. If Nukes are used the oil fields could be radioactive for centuries- if
bunker buster 'conventionals' are used, Iran (& all oil fields) could be totally destroyed by way of their extensive fault lines and MASSIVE EARTHQUAKES - which they have experienced far too often. They will definitely fight back fiercely and that could be the End of everything in the material universe.
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:49 PM
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40. Jesus, Steve, even Pat Robertson gets it.
Apparently, Pat Robertson had two peak oil rock stars (Matt Simmons and Roscoe Bartlett) on his show recently and understands what is coming in terms of production depletion and price increases. What a strange world it is when that maniac has a clearer view of the picture than a finance maven like Steve Forbes.

I think Forbes has some history of pushing certain opinions publicly, then going the other way in private.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:14 PM
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41. What a looney toon
Did he use the word "cakewalk" too?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:19 PM
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42. Just another rich traitor bastard.
Putting his war profits ahead of the interests of the USA.

These assholes need to have their money taken away and forced to work for a living.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:20 PM
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43. Nuke Iran - good for America!
Ah what a great strategy Forbes!

:nuke:
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