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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:48 PM
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Nightline: 9/11 first responders are dying NOW? -- WTF?
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 10:15 PM by Bozita
Remember the EPA's doctored air quality reports? Christie Todd Whitman does. Well, it seems that some of first responders are sick and dying.

Each and every one of those deaths are, imho, premeditated murder.


from the email:

April 13, 2006 --

9/11 Controversy

After the World Trade Center Towers came down in New York City, thousands of first responders rushed to Ground Zero to help dig for survivors and pull out bodies from the wreckage, but many had no idea the disaster around them was releasing toxic smoke that would eventually put their own lives in peril. ABC's David Muir examines the sickness and speaks to families who are fighting for assistance from the U.S government.

The Marlboro Man

In 2004, a picture taken of U.S Marine James Blake Miller became an iconic image of a soldier in modern-day war. The snapshot even caught the attention of cigarette maker Philip Morris, which offered Miller a chance to endorse a camouflage cigarette case. But the soldier turned down the deal and an offer from the Pentagon to return home early. Now the famous face is coping with an entirely new battle, that of post- traumatic stress disorder. ABC's Jake Tapper profiles the struggle of this former Marine.

Sign of the Times

Down in South Beach, Florida, the home of a world-famous designer and the site of a notorious murder in 1997, is being turned into an upscale hotel. Would you want to spend the night? It's our Sign of the Times

We hope you'll join us.

Gerry Holmes
Senior Producer, and the "Nightline" Staff
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:19 PM
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1. Will Nightline even mention the doctored EPA reports ...
... for lower Manhattan?

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:00 PM
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7. The EPA Union was up in arms over this when the Inspector General
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 11:03 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
of the EPA submitted her report showing that the White House omitted information when they said the air at Ground Zero was safe. Meanwhile thousands of people are ill, dogs have died early and asthma is up amongst children in lower Manhattan. Not only was NY brutalized by the attacks on 9/11, it was again attacked by their own government on the heels of that tragedy.

Link re the Inspector General's Report
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/epa-response/
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:13 PM
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9. Link to EPA Union's Denouncement of Bush re 9/11
http://www.nteu280.org/Issues/nteu%209-11%20Statement.htm

STATEMENT OF U.S. EPA LABOR UNIONS

ON IMPROPER WHITE HOUSE INFLUENCE
ON EPA’S RESPONSE TO TERROR ATTACK OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001





We, the undersigned representatives of the workers who perform health and environmental protection duties at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency across America, express our anger and dismay over evidence of the White House’s improper actions in connection with communicating health risk information to emergency workers and residents in New York immediately following the terror attacks on that city on September 11, 2001.



EPA’s dedicated Civil Service employees performed their duties swiftly and competently following the terror attack, assessing as accurately as possible the environmental health risks faced by the brave rescue workers and nearby residents from toxic substances released in the attack. These workers reported to senior EPA officials their best estimate of the risks, and they expected those estimates and the accompanying recommendations for protective measures to be released in a timely manner to those who needed the information.



The public was not informed of all of these health risks, some of which were avoidable. This information was withheld from the public under orders from the White House. Instead, the Bush White House had information released, drafted by political appointees, that it knew to contradict the scientific facts. It misinformed. And many rescue workers and citizens suffered. Some citizens now face the long-term risk of asbestos-related lung cancer as well as other debilitating respiratory ailments as a result.



Little did the Civil Service expect that their professional work would be subverted by political pressure applied by the White House. This unwarranted and inexcusable interference with the professional work of the Civil Service by politicians reporting directly to President Bush caused rescue workers and residents to be exposed to health risks that could have been, indeed should have been, avoided.



We express our solidarity with the rescue workers and residents who were affected adversely by this outrageous action of President Bush’s staff. There is no excuse for White House politicians imposing their values and overriding the Civil Service’s best advice on protecting those still digging in the wreckage and those whose homes and offices were covered with toxic debris.



President Bush owes the rescue workers, residents, dedicated Civil Service workers and the American people more than an apology for his actions in this matter. President Bush should take steps to compensate the rescue workers and residents who were harmed by his administration’s actions.



The President’s political appointees’ interference with the professional work of the EPA Civil Service has seriously harmed EPA’s credibility. Before there is another national emergency, that credibility must be restored.



The President must pledge to never again order EPA to tell less than the whole truth about a public health emergency.

Continued at above link
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:25 PM
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11. Thanks, OSO. The last line shows wussiness that demeans every union

"The President must pledge to never again order EPA to tell less than the whole truth about a public health emergency."

No wonder Nightline did what they did.




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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:31 PM
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12. Your welcome and you're 100% right. It seems that everyone is
chickening out when it comes to holding the shrub's feet to the fire over this.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:34 PM
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2. Before Ted announced his retirement, Nightline did one issue per show
In the months prior to Koppel's exit, ABC started experimenting with two and even three stories.

IMHO, ABC has lost a lot of viewers from DU. Quick and shallow doesn't cut it here.

Nevertheless, I'm watching this Nightline.


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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:48 PM
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3. NO MENTION OF THE FUCKING DOCTORED EPA air quality reports
Thanks, ABC.

I don't think Ted Koppel's proud of Nightline tonight.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:51 PM
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4. What the hell do they want? Affordable healthcare?
:sarcasm:

Do you think the King Chimp is going to do anything about it? Don't hold your breath (no pun intended).
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:53 PM
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5. Well, my friends daughter, who has allergies, would visit friends in NY
City after 911, but she could never go near the 911 site
because she would get quite ill...the air would bother her
there more than anywhere else.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:55 PM
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6. There was a thread going yesterday that faded away with no interest
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:07 PM
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8. There was more than just that one thread on the topic of the 34yo cop
I remember posting on one of them.

Those threads are what got me going after I read Nightline's daily email.

ABC never mentioned the doctored EPA reports. NEVER!



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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:16 PM
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10. I only saw one yesterday. Please check out the statement made by
the EPA Union in this thread. This has been one of the biggest dirtiest little secrets in this country. NYers are aware as every now and then it raises its head in the news when another first responder dies. One died a couple of weeks ago too.

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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:59 PM
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18. Several threads were going. I can't find the other ones I remember, but...
BBC will be airing a documentary May 3rd.

One of the other thread topics was about the estimate of 15,000 people being affected...forgot to search that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=916321&mesg_id=916321
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:48 PM
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13. Did Nightline mention the lawsuit against Whitman?
On May 20, 2003 she resigned her position, effective June 27 of that year. Some have questioned her role in the alleged coverup of the toxic chemicals in the air around Ground Zero after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks on New York City though the reason she gave was to spend time with her family. As for the September 11 environmental crisis, Whitman appeared twice in New York City after the attacks to inform New Yorkers that no threat was posed to their health by toxins released by the attacks, contrary to EPA's own conclusions. It is later shown that the EPA knew that the levels of asbestos, dioxins, PCBs, and heavy metals released by the destruction of the World Trade Center were at horrendously high levels, but Whitman refused to release the information at the behest of the White House.

When Whitman left the EPA in June 2003, the number of officially designated smoggy days in the US was up by 32% and the completion of cleanup of Superfund toxic sites was down by 50%.

On February 2, 2006, U.S. District Court Judge Deborah A. Batts issued a ruling rejecting Whitman's request for immunity in a 2004 class action lawsuit brought by a group who claimed exposure to hazardous debris from the collapse of the World Trade Center. The judge stated that "No reasonable person would have thought that telling thousands of people that it was safe to return to lower Manhattan, while knowing that such return could pose long-term health risks and other dire consequences, was conduct sanctioned by our laws," and called Whitman's actions "conscience-shocking."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:16 AM
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16. Heartwarming news; even better what the judge said...
> On February 2, 2006, U.S. District Court Judge Deborah A. Batts
> issued a ruling rejecting Whitman's request for immunity in a 2004
> class action lawsuit brought by a group who claimed exposure to
> hazardous debris from the collapse of the World Trade Center. The
> judge stated that "No reasonable person would have thought that
> telling thousands of people that it was safe to return to lower
> Manhattan, while knowing that such return could pose long-term health
> risks and other dire consequences, was conduct sanctioned by our
> laws," and called Whitman's actions "conscience-shocking."

I hope to God Christie gets tried in a New York court and gets the book thrown at her. People are suffocating to death because of her.

And if she thinks for a minute that the Criminal-in-Chief will stand by her when the * hits the fan, all she has to do is look at what's happening to Scooter Libby and other erstwhile "friends" of Bushco. The loyalty only goes in one direction.

Formerly healthy people suffocating and gasping for breath...

Hekate

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:51 PM
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14. Must be sweeps week--right wing TV only airs this type stuff then.
:eyes:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 12:42 AM
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15. Kicked and recommended
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:32 AM
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17. Here's the result from the USGS tests of the dust
World Trade Center USGS Bulk Chemistry Results



http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem1/index.html

There's some interesting stuff in there.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:06 PM
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19. I know there is studies going on right now which are showing
the major ramifications of 9/11 there were more victims than the ones who died... Respiratory problems such a Shortness of breath and coughing... these are the beginning systems of mesthilioma... its been 5 years the results in the future is going to be terrible...

Letting those First responders in when they knew the air was bad ... criminal!!!
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