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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:44 AM Original message |
I Better Not Hear People Defending Dems Associated With Abramoff. |
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pdefalla (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. We need to consider our ultimate goal |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Hear, Hear! Welcome To DU pdefalla! |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. read this before you make a lot of assumptions based on Bush quotes |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. More Repugs Are Involved. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Don't confuse regular donations with payola, though. Did you believe when |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
82. Good point. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
96. Exactly |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. agreed, we need transparent leadership - but I don't trust the GOP to |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Well gee, $127K to the GOP, and NADA to the DEMS???? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. And bush should be believed.. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
92. I wouldn't believe Bush if his tongue came notarized |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. And a tip of the |
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marylanddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. You won't hear that from Marylanddem |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. C'mon DA, can't talk about the Dems in anything other than glowing terms! |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I Guess I Am Not A Good Party Guy. |
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wake.up.america (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. An appropriate attitude. From the get go, it has been an attempt... |
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kliljedahl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. And we know who those people are don't we? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
77. Actually, most of here just want to know if DA's telling the truth.... |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. And if Reid it dirty.... |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. No Democrats took money from Abramoff |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You Are About To Be Proven Wrong Beginning Jan 9th. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Yeah, as relevant as Nixon passing the Clean Air Act |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. None took money directly form Abramoff |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. The question is whether donations were quid-pro-quo for 'service' |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You've summed it up perfectly. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. What information do you have that we need to be cognizant of??? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 03:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
76. If you can point to something that clearly states the Dems took money.... |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
13. Hey, DA, did you miss Kos's story? |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It Is Still Illegal To Take The Money They Did. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. if Abramoff gives me a bribe and I buy one of your t-shirts with it |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. A PAC Controlled By Abramoff Is Just As Illegal As Him As An Individual. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I just do not trust Bush to characterize or describe anything. |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. This Info Is Not Coming From Bush/Mehlman. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I'd hardly call Jackie's lawyer and Alan fucking Simpson nonpartisan |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
83. I agree with your points. looks like dis.A is smearing dems w/o proof |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Campaign donations are legal, payola is not legal. |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Show the evidence. I want to see the evidence that |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Wait For The Trials. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. What are you, pre-emptive brow-beating? |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Did the sources say that they took money to vote for |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Wow.... |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Well, Why Don't You Fill Me In Then. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You evidently haven't read enough.... |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. Never Did. Please Show Me Where I Said It Was Illegal To Take Money |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
79. You evidently never took a charm course, did you? |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Fuck THAT shit |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. So Sorry To Suggest That Any Powerful Democrat May Not Be All That. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Especially when you haven't anything to back your claims up |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 03:18 AM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Oh, great. Abuse from the peanut gallery. |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. And you know they were bribes because ......? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Defending money that is funnelled rather than directly paid |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
14. There's plenty of money corrupting both parties. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Then both houses will sit empty. Our politiwhores selling us out would |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. But, many people still believe that we live in a "democracy". |
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oregonindy (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Corrupt is corrupt....fire anybody and everybody that abramoff touched |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
19. Hear, hear. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
20. Not from me you won't! I want anyone connected with this shit out now! |
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jackster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Amen! |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. any Democrat involved is a traitor, bot to the party AND to the nation.n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Perhaps giving legit campaign contributions to Democrats was the perfect |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I agree, MzMolly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Exactly! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
34. What Dems are you talking about? |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. You have yet to answer to the fact that.... |
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Noisy Democrat (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
80. This Republican plant won't answer anything |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Since you asked, here ya go: |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. How Jack Abramoff Spread the Wealth |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
48. my question is |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. read this thread on du it answers alot..read all the links..comments about |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. That Is Pre-Abramoff Thinking. |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm all for anyone dirty to go down, but |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't think you need to worry about this. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. Or you'll do what? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Deleted message |
LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Do not accuse me of being one of them. n/t |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Never accused you of being one of them. We know you are a dem. |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. Pigs are flying again DA. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. To whom did his clients give money BEFORE Abramoff? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. the indians were always more democratic donors prior to abramoff!! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. I want them ALL out of MY government! |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. ANYONE who committed a crime should go to jail |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. So can we expect more Fatwas or will this be your last pontification? n/t |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Sorry It Bothers You That I Would Suggest We Should Not Defend |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 02:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. you go full force without facts..... then you say if they |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:32 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Hear Hear! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
91. well, i put "always" in my post, then edited it out. lol lol |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. What has to be distinguished is who got a legitimate campaign |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. You won't hear that from me |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
72. You left something out.... |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
74. That depends on HOW they are connected. n/t |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
75. Democrats must be held accountable just as Republicans |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
81. I won't defend them, but I'll leave the attacking to the GOP |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. thank you |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
85. Oh hell no! |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
93. Nail ALL of their asses to the wall. Dems and Thugs. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
95. I thought there weren't any?? |
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