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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:20 PM
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VIDEO-McLaughlin Report on Abramoff- REPUBLICAN Scandal
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:23 PM
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1. I really wish canofun would fix their pages.

I mean, just about everyone else's videos work for me, why can't theirs?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:31 PM
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8. I am boycotting them
They recently changed their pages and I can no longer access their videos. So it's a forced boycott.:) Care to join me?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:43 PM
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15. I have tried everything.
I have tried 20 other asx and asf websites, and they all work in the media player 9 for mac. ( ifilm etc )

I cannot figure any reason for them not to work other than a server issue on can of fun. Media player sees the file and sits there for a minute connecting and then comes up server cannot be reached.

I don't like the boycott idea, as LiveOak has been so good to us in the past, but I cant really be bothered to go there anymore if I can't see the media files.

:(
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:49 PM
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18. If they won't work they won't work
Not much we can do about it.

I tried too.

But it's not like it's the only source for videos on the internets. If canofun doesn't want Mac users to come to their website, we can always go elsewhere.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:55 PM
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22. I use Windows Media, but there are a lot of people connecting
with MACs that are running Windows Media player for MACs. I don't have a MAC so don't know why it works for some MAC users and not others, but it definitely is a client issue or else NO MAC users would be accessing the files. Unfair characterization to say that COF doesn't want MAC users on site.... puleez.

You're right, however, about it not being the only site for clips. I have before, on many occasions, posted instructions for how people can make their own clips-in fact, the instrucs are on a link in the research section. If you see or hear something great, consider clipping it and sharing it.

I have the same problem, incidentally, with some sites that have Apple files.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:56 PM
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24. Ah. Media player 9.
I think you might try downloading Media Player 10. I was getting a pop-up for WMP 10 whenever I tried to play his recent videos. Without going into the strangeness of my computer, try downloading WMP 10 and see if it helps.

Good luck. :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:54 PM
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21. It works for me
I just can't save them anymore. :(
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:33 PM
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10. PM liveoaktx and ask how to get the videos to work for you.
I had a problem getting them to play, too, for a little while, but now everything is great.

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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:44 PM
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16. we're on mac. nt
are you?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:48 PM
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17. I'm on a Mac.
It worked for me. This time. But most others, I can't play them either.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:52 PM
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20. Doesn't work at all for me
Must be something that guy who helped me update my OS loaded on my computer.

I shoulda knowed not to trust him. :grr:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:57 PM
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26. He probably hacked it.
Was he drinking at the time?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:02 PM
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30. Probably was
I can't even get the website to come up. Is it because I am using Firefox?

Tell that guy I want my money back. He did get the $100 bill I left on his coffee table, didn't he?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:08 PM
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34. D'oh!
His thieving brother probably got it. Bastard.
I connected with both Safari and Firefox. I must be holding my mouth right.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:13 PM
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36. I don't get it.
I went to the troubleshooting guide and it said it's my firewall. So do I have to lose that to watch the videos?

It also said to reload Windows Media to be sure I had the latest version. So they have changed versions since we upgraded a month ago?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:24 PM
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40. Media Player 9 is the most recent Mac version.
You may need to open a port in the Sharing preferences panel. But I didn't have to do that. I'm using the firewall on my router and the one built into the OS.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:59 PM
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28. Oh. No, I'm not.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were Mac. But see my post above, about downloading WMP 10. Technology is too funky for me to understand why something works on one computer and not another. :(

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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:00 PM
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29. mac has
media player 9, no ten yet.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:03 PM
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32. Bummer.
I hope they won't wait too long before catching up to version 10.

I can't live without liveoaktx's videos. It's my first and foremost connection to actually being able to see people on air, which is so much better than just reading a transcript.

So sorry you can't see the videos ... :(
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:27 PM
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41. As far as I know
there are no plans for a WMP 10 for Mac.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:18 PM
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50. I cant live without them either
but I had better learn.

LiveOak's response is, other mac users can see them, it ain't my problem.

I haven't seen too many mac users who say they can see these, but the ones that can are running version 7 of the player, it is no longer supported or available for download anywhere..

This also means they haven't upgraded their player since 2002, so bully for them it works there, but I for one don't feel I should have to regress my computer to a 2002 state of software, to see files that as far as I can tell work from every other site in the world supplying them.

ifilm, microsoft, game sites, all use asf files, all currently working for me, thus I have to believe that the problem is not on the mac users end, but the servers of live oak. Either the codec he is creating them in, or the way they are hosted is gumming up our chances to see anything off his site.

I spent the day on this, and I am a coder/http dev so I have a little insight.

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:24 PM
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51. No, I did not say that. I said that other MAC users were on so
I didn't think it was a server issue necessarily but a client or firewall issue. I also said I don't have a MAC so I can't troubleshoot this directly. I did NOT say "It ain't my problem" or anything like it.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 08:37 PM
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52. I apologize
for my "it aint my problem" quote.

he didn't ever say that, I am mad, but I am not mad at LiveOak, I am mad at the way microsoft always makes things for mac that are just substandard.

Now I spend the better part of my day debugging things like this, so if I came out and sounded like LiveOak is a jerk, I apologize, and I can tell you from experience, he is anything but. He does care about the clients for his site, and is currently working on solving this to make everybody happy.

His service in getting these clips out is invaluable to us, and I guess by not having them today, I am the jerk, by missing his great service so much

Peace L.O.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:51 PM
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19. It's a Mac thing
Canofun obviously doesn't want traffic from Mac users. They switched a week or so ago and Mac users can no longer access their videos.

They know and they have yet to fix it. So we will just go elsewhere.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:57 PM
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25. Puleez- there are MAC users watching it now-I'm sorry it doesn't
work yet for you, but it's ridiculous for you to make a claim that I don't want traffic from MAC users.

The issue isn't the server if there are other MAC users online.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:59 PM
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27. I am tired of trying to fix it
I can't even get to the website now.

But just for you, I will try one more time. :)
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:02 PM
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31. PM me with the error and I'll try googling for it
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:13 PM
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35. I think I have solved it.
if you are running Windows Media Player X - 7.1.3 these will work

the problem, since the release of media player 9 this hasnt been working, nor addressed by M$

if you can find a version of media player 7 good for you, I cant and it has been removed from the M$ site.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:14 PM
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37. Ask evlbstrd
He might know where to find it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:17 PM
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39. works fine for me
If nothing else works, copy and paste the url into Windows Media Player's "Open URL" box. (File -> Open URL)
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:41 PM
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42. Actually mplayer.

WMP would have a hard time running on my box, let me assure you.

Anyway an upgrade to the very bleeding edge of mplayer worked and I mailed liveoaktx a "hail mary" idea for something to look over on the server, which probably won't fix it but hey, worth a shot.

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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:55 PM
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43. mplayer
doesnt do asf, just wmp
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:03 PM
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45. Well, it's doing asf for me.
?! :shrug:



Description: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
It plays most mpeg, avi and asf files, supported by many native and win32
DLL codecs. You can watch VCD, DVD and even DivX movies too. The other
big feature of mplayer is the wide range of supported output drivers. It
works with X11, Xv, DGA, OpenGL, SVGAlib, fbdev, but you can use SDL (and
this way all drivers of SDL) and some lowlevel card-specific drivers (for
Matrox/3dfx/SiS) too! Most of them supports software or hardware scaling,
so you can enjoy movies in fullscreen.
.
This version is for AMD Duron/Athlon



Anyway I'm just glad I'm fixed -- I hope everyone else finds their fixes. Good luck folks!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:11 PM
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46. the linux version is a full version
we are still in preview version on mac :(
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:25 PM
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2. Mort Zuckerman is always good for comic releif
thuffering thuccotash!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:27 PM
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3. Oh my GOD! Tony Blankley actually told the truth!!!!
He said this Abromoff scandal is going to be ALL PUB! Lots of people might have taken money, but it could have been legal. It's too soon to tell how many will be hurt, but I think it will be about 6 lawmakers and more than that in staffers.

I don't necessarily agree with him on the "only 6" part, but I can't believe he's admiting it's all Pubs!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:28 PM
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4. That's why I clipped it, too.-was surprised.. AND I like his
explanation (plus the analogy of blowing up the outhouse)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:34 PM
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11. *thud*
*sound of CatWoman fainting*
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:15 PM
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38. PLEASE, pick yourself up off the floor, CatWoman!
We need you here! I NEED you here! There's not very many of us Ga. females around!!!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:15 PM
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49. bwahahaha
ok -- dusted myself off, and ready for more!! :hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:03 PM
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44. I think it's going to be way more than six as well
Six is being nice to them probably.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:12 PM
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47. I'm listening to Stephanie Millers' show from Friday
and Stephanie reported Abramoff could get sixty politicians in trouble.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:29 PM
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5. WOW, you've been right on it today, liveoaktx
(as usual!)

Thanks so very very much!
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:29 PM
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6. "...dynamite the outhouse."
Sometimes I like Buchanan. Then I have to shower.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:43 PM
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14. Buchanan feeds on the failings of others. ANY others.
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 05:44 PM by TahitiNut
It's his foremost joy ... he's so totally lacking in empathy that even the failings of people of similar political ideology give him a self-righteous woody.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:31 PM
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7. Saweeeet!
Love Buchanan. "Abramoff has dynamited the outhouse. The Republicans are going to be dealing with this all year." :rofl:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:56 PM
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23. tick tick tick
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:32 PM
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9. Good lord, what an unpleasant show
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:36 PM
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12. You would think "grown-ups" could communicate better than that.
Raising their voices, interrupting. Back in the days when I had cable, I stopped watching the show because, as you say, "Good lord, what an unpleasant show."

=========

Thanks, liveoaktx.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 07:14 PM
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48. It's the old republican trick
It's like what Phil Donahue said: the loudest doesn't mean being right. (He said that to Billy boy when he was on his show last year)
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 05:37 PM
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13. I really enjoy this republican scandal mania.........
what was that they were saying about restoring integrity and honor???:dilemma: :nopity:
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 06:05 PM
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33. LiveOak
Regarding the ASX streaming errors. Have your ASX files build so that there is a rollover for HTTP as well as MMS, so that those who are behind corporate or residential firewalls can access. Just a suggestion.
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