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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:04 PM
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SHUT IT DOWN - NO PHASE II YET -SHUT IT ALL DOWN
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 04:17 PM by stop the bleeding
Just read this



In July 2004, when the Intelligence Committee released a 511-page report on its investigation of prewar intelligence by the CIA and other agencies, Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said in his own "Additional Views" to the report, "Concurrent with the production of a National Intelligence Estimate is the production of a one-page President's Summary of the NIE. A one-page President's Summary was completed and disseminated for the October 2002 NIE ... though there is no mention of this fact in report. These one-page NIE summaries are ... written exclusively for the president and senior policy makers and are therefore tailored for that audience."

Durbin concluded, "In determining what the president was told about the contents of the NIE dealing with Iraq's weapons of mass destruction -- qualifiers and all -- there is nothing clearer than this single page."



http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0330nj1.htm







In short, this NIE Summary, the one that proves Bush knew that he was making dodgy claims, was among the material that Addington and Libby refused to turn over to the SSCI. And they refused to turn it over even while Durbin insisted that only the Summary would reveal what Bush knew and when he knew it.

They deliberately refused to turn over the evidence that Bush knew the intelligence was dodgy.

But it's not too late. It seems to me this NIE Summary is precisely the kind of thing the Phase II investigation needs to have to be able to determine whether BushCo politicized the intelligence. C'mon, Senate Whitewash Intelligence Committee, Murray Waas has done your work for you. Tell us again, did President Bush politicize the intelligence?



http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/03/bush_knew.html



Sen. Roberts should be #$#%#$^^$%^^&%^&:argh::argh::argh:


On edit: I wonder if Durbin, Reid, Feingold and others will see this article by Waas they have to.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:16 PM
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1. Yep. Shut it down!
Peace
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:45 PM
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2. What I don't understand,
is why aren't they calling a spade a spade.

Bush LIED. No 2 ways around it.

He did not listen to "faulty intelligence." He was not the victim of people telling him WMDs existed in Iraq when all intelligence said there wasn't.

Bush LIED to Congress and the American people - which is an impeachable offense.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:49 PM
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4. Mysterious, isn't it!
You would think that this would be the easiest case to make politically...yet....
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:08 PM
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23. Hallellujah! There are still people around here....
focused on impeaching Bushco.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:48 PM
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3. Do it! Bring attention to DSMs 1, 2, and 3! Now is the time! nt
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:50 PM
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5. is there another thread with this OP?
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 04:51 PM by Gabi Hayes
or is it within one of the Waas threads?

I could have sworn I linked some stuff WRT Risen's book as an adjunct to this

may be confused....

hugh K and R for this
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:52 PM
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6. I started it out of the Waas threads but thought the post had enough
merit for it's own thread so here we are.

Awareness is a wonderful thing
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:58 PM
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9. It should have been shut down months ago!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:01 PM
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11. TIA!


this needs spreading to the hustings!

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:57 PM
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7. K & R! You're damn right!
:kick:
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:57 PM
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8. Oh You ARE Mad Today
Go for it.....
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:59 PM
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10. I'd be damned happy if I weren't the only one calling Roberts' ofc on this
I call and they keep promising to release it this month. I was waiting to call until tomorrow but if any one else wants to join me, here's what happened before

repost of: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=153x4176

I called and asked about the progress on Phase 2 of the report that Roberts is supposed to be doing. Kay Sharp (Overland Park office) said the report would probably, maybe released in March. She wouldn't be more precise than "probably, maybe in March." Just thought I'd let you guys know when that report (probably, maybe) should be coming out.

Here (roughly) was that conversation:

Kay: Hello, this is Kay with Senator Roberts' office. How may I help you?

Me: Hi, this is (gave her real name and phone number) and just so you know, I'm a member of the Democratic Party. Anyway, I have a question. I was just talking with a friend from out-of-state and he wanted to know whatever happened to Phase 2 of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on the intelligence failures concerning Iraq.

Kay: Yes.

Me: Well, I was wondering too. What happened to it?

Kay: It is proceeding, probably, maybe... It should probably, maybe be done in March. They've been working on it. All along, they have been working on it. Probably done in March.

Me: Of this year?

Kay: Yes, this year.

Me: That's next month.

Kay: It will probably be done in March, sometime in March.

Me: Early March? Late March? NCAA tournament time March?

Kay: March. Probably sometime in March.

Me: Okay, well thanks for your time. I'll tell my friend. We're all looking forward to reading it.

Kay: Thank you for calling. <click>

I didn't get a chance to ask her how much she thought would be redacted from the public. But this is the current "timetable" from Kay at Senator Roberts' Overland Park office.

FWIW: Kay is Kay Sharp.

Anyway, if any of you also want to call Roberts' offices and ask about Phase 2, here's the numbers:

OVERLAND PARK
11900 College Boulevard,
Suite 203
Overland Park, KS 66210
Phone: 913-451-9343
Fax: 913-451-9446
Chad Tenpenny, State Director
Ramona Corbin, District Director
Kay Sharp, Constituent Services Director


Other regional offices:

DODGE CITY
100 Military Plaza
PO Box 550
Dodge City, KS 67801
Phone: 620-227-2244
Fax: 620-227-2264
Debbie Pugh, District Director
Martha Mendoza, Staff Assistant
Carla Wilson, Staff Assistant


WICHITA
155 N Market St,
Suite 120
Wichita, KS 67202
Phone: 316-263-0416
Fax: 316-263-0273
Karin Wisdom, District Director
Cathie Yager, Staff Assistant
Mel Thompson, State Agriculture Rep.

TOPEKA
Frank Carlson Fed. Bldg.
444 SE Quincy, Rm 392
Topeka, KS 66683
Phone: 785-295-2745
Fax: 785-235-3665
Gilda Lintz, District Director
Harold A. Stones, KS Special Projects Director
Emily Wellman, Staff Assistant

http://roberts.senate.gov/ksoffice.htm
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:02 PM
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12. Shut er DOWN!


I LOATHE LTCG, btw
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:03 PM
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13. Academy award winning
FRAUD !!!!!!!!!!!

Two out of the five or six intelligence agencies said they didn't agree the tubes had anything to do with nuclear.


Rice outright lied on the plane on February 5th too to the reporters. Said that this wasn't made known to them when they ALL knew it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:17 PM
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19. Pat Roberts is the Presidents Cover-up Senator in Charge
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:05 PM
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14. An aside, may I request a new meme?
"SHUT IT DOWN!!!" is losing it's - umpf. ;)
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:11 PM
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15. what other way can we say this message with more
umpf than "SHUT IT DOWN!!!" ???

Cause I want all the umpf I can get, I couldn't think of anything with more umpf.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:13 PM
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16. Smoke em out?
Kick their Asses?

Squeeze the Wheeze?

Beat their Knees?


sorry
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:15 PM
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17. Squeeze the Wheeze lol!
I was gonna use "Let's crack sum Skullz"

but I think that is a bit violent for DU, so I went with ole faithful

Squeeze the Wheeze LOL!!!!!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:17 PM
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18. we're ALL Bozos on this bus, citizen
"squeeze the wheeze, many people like to!"

follow the rubber line to your seat

prepare yourself for an interval of simulated exhilaration
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:31 PM
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21. Uhm, how bout "A-le-le-le-le-le-le-le-le!"
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 05:33 PM by mzmolly


;)
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:19 PM
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20. works for me...
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:59 PM
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22. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better for Phase II to come out in Sept.
....just a few months prior to the elections. Understandably, Roberts and the other repubs will do everything in their power to keep from releasing anything.

I damn sure hope the Dems are keeping the pressure on to get ALL the truth out once Phase II is released.....and frankly I don't care when it's released, just as long as it's not a whitewash.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 PM
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24. Yep - if they can, they'll stall this until hell freezes over.
It would be nice to see it come out in Sept but we need to put some pressure on.

Shut it down again.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:23 PM
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25. it will NOT happen unless dems take over the senate
book that
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:57 PM
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26. .
kick for awarenesss
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