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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:18 PM
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New "studies": Daycare, public schools, working mothers BAD!
Contact: Denise Kanter, Morningstar Educational Network, 714-633-8074

ORANGE, Calif., March 29 /Christian Wire Service/ -- Major research firms and universities in America, Canada, and England have arrived at the same conclusion as the new study reported in the Australian Sydney Morning Herald, that "daycare damages babies' brain chemistry and affects their social and emotional development." It was reported, "significant among the reams of research are the so-called cortisol studies, which measured the presence of stress hormones in young babies -- consistently finding levels to be higher in children in long hours of day care." Children in daycares and preschools are not developing properly, and equally as troubling, is later public schooling.

From John Stossel’s ABC report, Stupid in America: Why America’s Public Schools are Failing our Kids, to the recent Ninth Circuit Court ruling giving parents little, if any recourse or say over what is taught in public schools, to news headlines like these are causing parents alarm:

"New York High School Fosters Sexual (homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual) Experimentation on Campus; Mother arrested after son took cocaine to day care; 9-Year-Old Shot on School Bus; Preschool harms children's development; Parents Upset Over Explicit Novel Approved for High Schoolers; Teacher confesses to having sex with minors."

Denise Kanter from MorningStar Educational Network (MSEN) commented, "The study out of Australia is consistent with what is already known about the physical and mental damage that occurs when young children are out of their mother’s care for long hours. Children must be given a chance to grow up healthy, with consistent teaching of spiritual truths, and that takes more than just keeping young children out of daycare and preschool. It takes keeping them out of public schools as well. Just a cursory review of news headlines should be enough evidence to convince Christian parents of the necessity to teach and raise their children in a spiritual and loving home. Dr. James Dobson from Focus on the Family and Dr. Tim La Haye, a Pastor and Author have stated that it’s time for Christian parents to get their children out. And we agree. So through our education resource packages, newsletters, mentors, groups and websites, we provide Christian parents with the tools and confidence it takes to raise and educate their children at home."

MSEN’s new DVD compilation features riveting testimonies that give hope to parents with preschool and school age children. For more information visit: http://www.christianhomeeducation.org/dvd.html

MSEN is a non-profit 501 (c) 3 organization founded in 1994 to help families discover the blessings, necessity and importance of training children upon scriptural principles in the safety of a loving home. For more information about homeschooling and the ministries of MSEN, visit http://www.msen.org



http://www.earnedmedia.org/msen0329.htm
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:19 PM
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1. OMFG!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:22 PM
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2. Oh well
Tell that to my youngest daughter who grew up in daycare while I worked. Not only that, many times when I was on-call, I had to drag my kids out of bed and take to a sitter in the middle of the night.
She graduates this year with a scholarship to the University of Texas and has a 4.0 GPA and is #2 in her class.
Indeed she was damaged.:wtf:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:22 PM
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3. Isn't Dobson the one who recommends showing your penis to your
son, and beating the shit out of your dachsund?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:26 PM
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10. I love your bunny!
Is it a Californian?
Here is a pic of my bunnies and Granddaughter.
They were in the holding pens while I cleaned their cages--that is why the one bunny is running around unfettered.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:44 PM
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15. Thanks, but it's not my bunny. I got the pic from the internet.
:blush:

Yours are very cute! Your granddaughter is, too!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:22 PM
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4. and the earth is flat and the sun rotates around it.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:23 PM
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5. sad
and every kid I know in child care has what seems like constant colds and ear infections.

pitiful we can't support parents enough to let one of them stay home to raise their kids but it's so difficult for families these days and i never have understood how single parents do it. What a challenge every single day.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:24 PM
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6. Well, what a shock.
Personally, I'd prefer to see mothers given a stipend to stay home for the first 2 years of the kid's life should she choose to. That would certainly be the most sensible thing for mothers and their babies. However, it's also a career killer because corporate males seem to think her brains came out when the baby did, and refuse to hire any woman who's taken time off to be with her children back at her same level.

I guess corporate America is just going to have to resign itself to a brain damaged next generation from all that daycare.

Assholes.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:25 PM
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7. this group always disses early childhood education!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:26 PM
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8. C'mon, give John Stossel a litle credit
He's uniquely qualified to do a piece called "Stupid In America".
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:26 PM
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9. Rick Santorum would love this article!
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:35 PM
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11. oh . . . Stossel . . . forget it.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:37 PM
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12. give me 50000 a year and I will stay home
shoot, I could use the sleep and the less stress week!!!
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:49 PM
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17. Exactly!
Not many couples with children can make it on one income.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:42 PM
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13. Ideal Republican wives
I see the Republican wives in a mall near where I work in a wealthy suburb of Pittsburgh. They dress up themselves and the kidlets, drive the SUV to the mall, and parade around the mall pushing the kids in giant strollers. They shop and shop and shop and look oh so lonely. In a few years, the kids will be at a private school and they'll have been traded in on younger models.


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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:42 PM
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14. Fine.
Who's going to replace Mom's income while she stays home and raises the kids? I can see how Mom quitting her job to stay home with the kids would ease the unemployment problem for a few years while they continued to shift more jobs overseas, but so far I don't see anyone volunteering a way for her to be able to do it. :shrug:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:48 PM
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16. This only applies to middle-class white mothers
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 07:49 PM by MountainLaurel
If you're poor or a minority mother, you're a bad mother if you're NOT out there working and instead want to be at home to raise your children.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:51 PM
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18. Having raised a family in both situations
(stay at home and daycare) and as a teacher of many years, I believe there is truth to some of this. And a truly progressive country would provide for mothers or fathers to stay home a decent interval and nuture at home.

And public schools...well, I'm a teacher but I'll tell you that the current model is off base. I think schools should be very small and similar to the old one room school house with multi grades.

Raising kids and teaching kids is not given the status deserved, nor the resources required. We warehouse them for the cheapest per head cost we can come up with.

That said, I also realize that this organization has a vested interest in keeping women barefoot, pregnant and at home, and that is not the solution either. I'd hope we as a society could come up with something.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:53 PM
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19. We visited a daycare.
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 07:54 PM by igil
Employer-approved, certified by whatever board, had credentialed people in charge of each class.

A quarter of the kids had colds or the flu. We were swarmed by kids what needed attention; they wanted us to play with them. We had to disentangle ourselves from them when we left.

Three weeks later, we were all on antibiotics that we needed to clear up the bronchitis that followed the flu and the colds that we were hit with. Having the flu *and* a cold is a truly miserable experience.

Research shows that many kids benefit from daycare; these are typically those in 'deprived' households (poor literacy skills, low education level, little English or verbal interaction, divergent culture), but the benefits typically fade around grade 4. Otherwise it's like divorce: some kids are better off in daycare, for some kids it makes little difference, and for many kids it's a raw deal. These are statistical differences: many individuals can come forward and say "It didn't hurt *my* kid"; they may be right, but they hardly have a control or sufficient statistical sampling to make their claim stick. Maybe their kid would have done even better without daycare, or maybe theirs is one of the kids that do better in daycare. People take such studies personally sometimes, when they shouldn't. There's no way to extrapolate from the stats to an individual case, but that's what they do.

In some cases, the parent(s) have little choice: it's daycare/working parent or no daycare/no income; that's probably not considered by the study. In other cases, it's a lifestyle decision: a childhood acquaintance of mine got married and had kids, and went the daycare route, but either one of the parents could have gotten the family by on his or her income--instead, they liked buying a new SUV every couple of years, their new house with a living room/den/kids' activity room/four bedrooms and 4-car garage, their vacations, and eating out 2-3x/wk. For them, the question was: Is it better for the kids to have a stay-at-home parent, or have a really nice lifestyle? I think most depression-era parents would say you can raise most kids in humble conditions just fine. Then again, some kids can't take it. Again, going from a generalization to an individual case is non-trivial.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:55 PM
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20. Wow, they're getting educational advice from...
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 07:56 PM by EOO
People who have no fucking clue what they're talking about. People like Tim La Haye (an author, who wrote the horrible "Left Behind" series), James Dobson (a guy who advocates showing your "weiner" to your kid when he's 5 years old), and John Stossel (a republican wingnut smear journalist for ABC). None of these douchebags are what you would call "education experts".

This would be like Bush getting terrorism advice from a guy who's never worked in the military. Oh, wait...
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