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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 06:33 AM
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FactCheck.org a timely reminder for those arguments that seem
to never go away....


www.FactCheck.org

Example:

http://www.factcheck.org/article147.html

Did Kerry Oppose Tanks & Planes? Not Lately

Kerry voted often against nuclear missiles and bombers in the '90s, but GOP claims that he opposed a long list of conventional weapons are overblown.

Summary



Bush’s campaign chairman Marc Racicot on Feb. 22 accused Kerry of “voting against the weapons systems that are winning the War on Terror” and says Kerry was for "canceling or cutting funding for the B-2 Stealth Bomber, the B-1B, the F-15, the F-16, the M1 Abrams, the Patriot Missile, the AH-64 Apache Helicopter, the Tomahawk Cruise Missile, and the Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser." Another Bush campaign spokesman said Kerry has a "32-year history of voting to cut defense programs and cut defense systems" (a clear impossibility since Kerry has been in office less than 20 years.)

It's true Kerry expressed opposition to those weapons 20 years ago as a candidate, voted against Pentagon budgets several times as a senator in the early and mid-1990's, and proposed cuts in military and intelligence budgets as deficit-reduction measures as recently as 1996.

But Kerry's votes against specific military hardware were mostly against strategic nuclear weapons including the B-2 bomber, Trident missile and anti-missile items, not against conventional equipment such as tanks. And Kerry has a point when he says “I've voted for some of the largest defense and intelligence budgets in our history,” which is correct. He's voted for military spending bills regularly since 1997.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:28 AM
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 10:27 AM
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2. Hi VORIC 13!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:55 PM
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3. I sit corrected... or rather FactCheck does, I especially liked the
Edited on Wed Mar-29-06 08:56 PM by 4MoronicYears
page they had explaining Mr. Cheney's moves to reduce the military whilst secretary of defense or some such nefarious position.

ON EDIT: A major welcome to DU Voric!!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:02 PM
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4. First, welcome to DU! I think the article in which the OPer is refering
to was written in 2004 which at that time makes it correct.

:popcorn:
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:07 PM
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5. Fact checking the fact check of the fact check.
That was a quote from a FactCheck.org statement during 2004 presidential campaign.

Kerry was first elected in 1984, but wasn't seated until January 1985, of course. 2004 - 1985 = 19 and change months, i.e. less than 20 years.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:52 PM
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7. And that's a fact. n/t.... how many people have their names switched
to "name removed".... will they never learn???
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 09:09 PM
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6. Oh and welcome to DU!
:toast:

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