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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:34 AM
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Christian youth rally in S.F.
More than 25,000 evangelical Christian youth landed Friday in San Francisco for a two-day rally at AT&T Park against "the virtue terrorism" of popular culture, and they were greeted by an official city condemnation and a clutch of protesters who said their event amounted to a "fascist mega-pep rally."

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Luce, whose Teen Mania organization is based in Texas, kicked off a three-city "reverse rebellion" tour Friday night intended to counter a popular culture that he says glamorizes violence and sex. The $55 advance tickets for two days of musical performances and speeches were sold out, but walk-up admission was available for $199.

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Luce didn't flinch in the face of the counterprotest. The author, host of the "Acquire the Fire TV" cable television program and a President Bush appointee to a federal anti-drug abuse commission, wants teens to find Bible-based solutions for the spread of sexually transmitted disease, teen pregnancy, drug abuse and suicide.

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Military metaphors abound in Luce's descriptions of the struggle. He tells young people of how "an enemy has launched a brutal attack on them." At a pre-Battle Cry rally Friday afternoon on the steps of City Hall, Luce told his mostly teenage audience that "terrorists of a different kind" -- advertisers -- were targeting them and that they were "caught in the middle of the battle."

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/BATTLE.TMP
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:45 AM
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1. Looks like the junior brownshirts have checked in.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:51 AM
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4. For sure. The entire
article is creepy.

I liked the woman who said she moved to SF to
get away from people like them.

To anyone still up...G'night.


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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:50 AM
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2. AWESOME COUNTERPROTESTER's SIGN!
On one side of the barricade was girl carrying a sign that said, "Instead of porn, show us Godly relationships." On the other, a woman held one that said, "I moved here to get away from people like you."
:D
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:46 PM
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19. Love it!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:50 AM
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3. Fox TV Channels are the worst in smut
Let them go at it. The devil battling its own.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:52 AM
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5. Yeah! Smut pushers
battling it out with smut pushers.

Karma's coming.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:15 AM
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6. Please, Jesus, save me-
from Mr. Ron Luce's hellish haircut.

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 05:12 AM
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12. That's not a haircut
that's a housepet.

Speaking of which, doesn't California have laws against bringing ferrets and other assorted weasels into the state?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:29 AM
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7. I find this very ominous
"Are you ready to go to battle for your generation?" he asked, and the young people roared "yes!" and some waved triangular red flags flown from long, medieval-looking poles.


Googling that disturbing phrase yielded this:

http://www.xanga.com/groups/group.aspx?id=1478491
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 05:05 AM
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11. thanks for the link - and for making my spine crawl
I clicked on that xanga link Der Blaue...

Scary Cult teens. There was absolutely not ANY kids like that in my junior or high school class in East Texas back in the 80's. Even the ultra religious pentacostal girls didn't go around spewing crazy stuff like that.

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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 05:23 AM
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13. I was a brainwashed fundie teen in the 80s in Arizona
But (I hope!) I never sounded like that either. :scared:

That brainwashing shit can be pretty powerful though. I still have to remind myself that it was all lies every once in a while. When you actually care about people, you're very vulnerable to that kind of crap, which is the sad thing. They take that compassion and totally abuse it, mixed in with a lot of fear and shame.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:20 AM
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17. I think these people have their own schools,
maybe some home-schooling.

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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:53 PM
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20. That's some creepy "children of the corn" type of stuff there!
:scared: and what in the hell does "witnessing" mean...one of them said his hobby was "witnessing" what does that exactly entail?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:32 AM
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8. Onward Christian Soldiers
Military metaphors abound in Luce's descriptions of the struggle....

"Are you ready to go to battle for your generation?" he asked, and the young people roared "yes!"



Of course. He's breeding soldiers in the war against gays, feminists, non-Christians, liberals and other "undesirables" as determined by the Bible and the Church.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 05:01 AM
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10. Hate can be taught as an outlet
from despair.

Those poor deluded cultie kids. What will they do when their lord forsakes them,when their church collapses from the stress of it's own corruption and contradictions,and they can no longer lie to themselves.. What happens when they come out of that "born again" trance all alone as their life is being torn apart,and the America they once knew is gone,and is not any services there to help. It's all been cut or they must go to the cult..What will they do as the manic buzz of fantasy of this"war" this divine"purpose"wears off and they have the blood of innocent people they scapegoated like their leaders told them to do, but it's all on their own hands.Their "leaders" used them and their seeking..like tools..Young fascists and"true believers feel such energy purpose in that authority made meaning,following orders and letting leaders who snake charm the masses by telling them lies that appeal to the darkest parts of humanity, as these myths and the exploit errs of human despair drag them into ruin masked as miracles.


It is not abject vice, it is vice crowned with splendor, that seduces men’s souls.


Depeche Mode Lie to Me Lyrics
Come on and lay with me
Come on and lie to me
Tell me you love me
Say I'm the only one

Experiences have a lasting impression
But words once spoken
Don't mean a lot now
Belief is the way
The way of the innocent
And when I say innocent
I should say naive
So lie to me
But do it with sincerity
Make me listen
Just for a minute
Make me think
There's some truth in it

Promises made for convenience
Aren't necessarily
What we need
Truth is a word
That's lost its meaning
The truth has become
Merely half-truth
So lie to me
Like they do it in the factory
Make me think
That at the end of the day
Some great reward
Will be coming my way
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 04:49 AM
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9. I will give them credit for one thing
If 25,000 showed up, they had people show up at their rally unlike Freepers who maybe can get 6 to show up.....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:11 AM
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15. I'll give 'em credit for another thing. If 25,000 actually showed up
the media reported 25,000 people there.

If it had been an anti-war march, or a pro-choice rally, 25,000 people would have magically transmogrified into "hundreds".
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:39 AM
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14. I can only imagine Kirk Cameron of "Family Ties" being a keynote speaker
and the 25,000 attendees resembling the Christian high school kids in Saved.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:21 PM
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22. That would be "Growing Pains," not "Family Ties"
That was Michael J. Fox's show. That aside, yeah, I can definitely see Kirk Cameron there. He's about as way out there, whacko fundy as you can get. He's the star of the Left Behind movies, for crying out lout.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:32 AM
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16. Kind of a pricey event
I bet that money will go right into the promotor's pockets for fancy cars and MacMansions. x(
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:00 PM
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18. They should take that stuff back to Alabama where it belongs
It's not welcome in the blue state community of San Francisco.

I am inviting them to leave. I am asking nicely.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:19 PM
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21. There's a sucker born again every minute
25,000 just got fleeced
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:28 PM
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23. Time for San Francisco to Seal it's Borders from the Southern Foreigners
:shrug:
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