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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:58 PM
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Frist charges that Reid won't rule out impeachment. -Reid responds
Frist launched an attack on Harry including, among other things, "that he {Reid}, as leader of Senate Democrats, would not rule out impeaching President Bush over the wiretapping program."

Reid's response, from today's "Give 'em hell, Harry" e-mail:


Quite frankly I'd probably rule it out because the only President who could possibly be worse than George Bush would be Dick Cheney.


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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:58 PM
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1. BWAAAAAAAAHAHA
:rofl:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 10:59 PM
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2. Fuck Bill Frist.
Peace.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:35 AM
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34. Double fuck Bill Frist!
peace, peace.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:51 AM
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36. Double fist-fuk Frist....
without the lube.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:00 PM
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75. Then clap.
n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:42 PM
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116. Clap?
OK

:applause:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:41 PM
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115. Triple foot fuck Frist with sandpaper.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:33 PM
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121. Well now....isn't that going a tad too far?
:7

I'm all for sliding him down a 90 foot razor blade and into a tub of iodine, though.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:31 AM
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122. OK, then... slide him down that 90 foot razorblade into that tub of iodine
and *only then* triple foot fuck him with sandpaper.
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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:46 PM
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73. No thanks. (NT)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:44 PM
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:00 PM
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3. Because they know * is guilty of impeachable crimes ...
..... make it about Reid ..... make it about Feingold ........ make the Iraqi war going into
the toilet about the media .....

Distract and attack Distract and attack.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:01 PM
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4. maybe they don't know but the house has to bring up impeachment
NOT THE SENATE

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:28 PM
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71. right. and when we get to that point (hopefully soon)
we'll be impeaching cheney too!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:01 PM
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5. OMG!!! Harry, YOU DIDN'T!!!!!
Frist is such a tool. Harry spanked him good.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:30 PM
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94. Harry fell right into the trap.
Now he's on record against impeachment, a step which will be mandatory to save the Republic. Give 'em exactly what they want, Harry.

Here's how it has to work, Harry. Impeach both of them. See? Two criminals, two orange jumpsuits.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:06 PM
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99. Hardly.
Harry's comment is obviously in jest and designed to jab Bush, Cheney and frist. It does not put him on record either for or against.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:08 PM
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101. I hope you're right.
But you know that's how they'll spin it.

It's bizarre that pukes seem to automatically assume that Americans are afraid of impeachment, as if it's a bad thing. Applied in legitimate cases, it's healthy and fun. :evilgrin:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:15 PM
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103. Of course that's how the rethugs will spin it.
But Harry will be ready for it. I have no doubt about that.

Let's just hope that impeachment does become a reality, so that they will have to try to spin harry's words.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:50 PM
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111. Actually it looks like Senator Reid made a joke
IMHO he didn't really answer anything.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 09:42 AM
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117. The Question Itself Is A Trap
Reid's answer was a very skillful "dodge" - and funny to boot.

If he says he wouldn't rule out impeachment, the Repugs paint him as some radical who wants to prosecute the President for fighting the war on terror. If he says he would rule out impeachment and this issue really catches fire, then Reid either has to go back on his word or not do the right thing.

so I say

Good Answer! Good Answer!
...:applause: ..........:applause:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:01 PM
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6. Oh, that is great. Recommended.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:05 PM
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7. haha, go Harry
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:13 PM
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8. Great quote, Harry--here's a question for Bill:
Who do you think will be giving the SOTUS in '07?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:17 PM
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9. k & r!
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:18 PM
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10. Harry Reid reminds me of my Grandma.
She was quite the spitfire. When she relaxed her manners and let loose with what she really thought it was always amusing and perfectly insightful.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:30 PM
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11. Reid can't rule it out. As a Senator, he is bound by the Constitution
to hear any articles of impeachment passed by the HOUSE. Maybe Senator Frist should read his role in the Senate.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:14 AM
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61. Haven't you heard?
The Constitution is sooooo 9/10.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:32 PM
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12. Oh My Fucking God How Goddamn Perfect Was That!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Holy shit, that made my night. That's one of the best soundbites/oneliners I've heard from a major political figure in friggin years! Seriously, so short, so simple, so brilliantly true. Reid fuckin rocks.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:57 PM
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20. Absolute genius...Its the perfect comeback and it embarrasses them
in the process. Harry did good!
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:35 PM
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13. Got an e-mail from the RNC
They are running as the anti-impeachment party. They friggin' have nothing else to run on.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:35 AM
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24. Anti-impeachment Party????????????
Man, their short term memory is shot............I seem to recall the last Presidential Impeachment was something THEY started.

And as a point of History, the first one, Andrew Johnson's, was the result of Radical Republicans in Congress at the time.

Nope, sorry, the historical facts are against them.........but when has that ever stopped these bozos?
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:24 PM
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104. They are so arrogantly and narcissistically delusional
that THEY think Americans have some sort of disdain for impeachment because BilL Clinton's ratings actually rose during that time.

No, you morans, Clinton's ratings rose because most Americans actually understood what a frickin' witch hunt the whole thing was. THIS TIME they'll also realize that Bush deserves exactly that. Because Abraham Lincoln was dead right: You CAN'T fool all of the people all of the time.
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:51 AM
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25. Anti-impeachment party? Ok, that could backfire
We will probably have a majority of Americans wanting to see impeachment by November. I hope the Republicans continue to campaign as the anti-impeachment party. What a laugh.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:33 PM
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95. Wait, 8 years ago, they were the Impeachment Party.
Now they're... oh, right, this is the Repugnicans. Flip-flopping is fine when they do it.

I'm preparing the invitations for my own impeachment party. I'm supplying the chickenhawk wings and yellowcake.
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:35 PM
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98. "I'm supplying the chickenhawk wings and yellowcake"
heehee! that was almost as good as what Harry said :party:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:12 AM
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38. They've got a vested interest in George W Bush.
He's the one holding the pardon pen. If he and Cheney get run from office who's going to keep their criminal asses out of jail?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:40 AM
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46. They sure as hell loved the concept of
impeachment when Clinton was President. Loved it so much that they spend many millions on investigations, manufactured a bogus excuse, and conducted a kangaroo court. Now that their guy, a bonafide war criminal with a list of impeachable offenses a mile long, is illegally occupying the WH, suddenly they are the "anti-impeachment" party. I guarantee that before the ink is dry on the next Dem President's inauguration speech, they'll once again be singing a different tune.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:17 AM
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62. You're kidding, right?
That has to be a joke. The anti-impeachment party? :rofl:

Even if it weren't the exact polar opposite of the truth, what the hell is an anti-impeachment party? They're not for effing anything? They're just against impeachment?

To quote Scrooge, "I'll retire to Bedlam."

:rofl:
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webtrainer Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:19 PM
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92. Here's the email from Mehlman . . . they are "projecting" on others again
Dear xxx,

The word is out. Their position is clear. Last week, Sen. Russ Feingold floated a reckless plan to censure the President, and some Democrat leaders have ecstatically jumped on Feingold's bandwagon.

And, if they gain even more power in November, they won't stop there.

Feingold says that censure actually represents "moderation" and calls the terrorist surveillance program an impeachable offense. Dick Durbin, the number two Democrat in the Senate, fails to rule out impeachment if Democrats retake Congress. Iowa Democrat Tom Harkin is talking "high crimes and misdemeanors." And 31 House Democrats are calling for a committee to look into impeachment. Their leader? John Conyers, who would become House Judiciary Committee chairman under Democrat control.

The Democrats' plan for 2006? Take the House and Senate, and impeach the President. With our nation at war, is this the kind of Congress you want? If your answer is a resounding "NO", I need you to make an urgent contribution to help us win this fight.

http://www.GOP.com/WinThisFight/

Democrat leaders' talk of censure and impeachment isn't about the law or the President doing anything wrong. It's about the fact that Democrat leaders don't want America to fight the War on Terror with every tool in our arsenal. Your immediate action will send these reckless Democrats a message and help preserve our Republican majorities.

http://www.GOP.com/WinThisFight/

And what happens if we stand on the sidelines, and give the likes of Russ Feingold, John Kerry, and John Conyers control of Congress? Here's what the The Wall Street Journal says: "In fact, our guess is that censure would be the least of it. The real debate in Democratic circles would be whether to pass articles of impeachment. ... veryone should understand that censure and impeachment are important -- and so far the only -- parts of the left's agenda for the next Congress."

http://www.GOP.com/WinThisFight/

The world is watching. Using every tool at our disposal to fight terrorists should not be a partisan issue. Democrats should to be focused on winning the War on Terror, not undermining it with political axe-grinding of the ugliest kind.


Sincerely,



Ken Mehlman
Chairman, Republican National Committee

P.S. Russ Feingold's censure resolution and Democrat talk of impeachment have raised the stakes for 2006. Make your contribution, sign the petition, and help make sure this fight is won.

http://www.GOP.com/WinThisFight/
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:01 PM
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113. My response to Mr. Mehlman..
Ken, you're such a tool. Sincerely, PK.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:36 PM
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14. BWWWA AAAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 11:38 PM by rateyes
:rofl: :wow:

Coffee all over monitor!

:spray:

Harry,

:yourock:
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:40 PM
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15. Reid should be asking if Frist has ruled out Bush resigning?
He's been so imcompetent and we would demand resignation or fire a CEO who had been so utterly and grossly imcompetent.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:45 PM
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16. Brilliant!!!
Greta one liner, Harry!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:50 PM
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17. "Wiretapping Program"? How about...
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ILLEGAL, UNAMERICAN DOMESTIC SPYING ON U.S. CITIZENS
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:50 PM
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18. He's gotta a point....
but let's see what he really says in November...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:55 PM
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19. Harry Reid is my hero! Had to give this thread a totally gratuitous....
11th vote for the Greatest Page.

Give 'em Hell, Harry!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:07 AM
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21. Well now, that's what I call a rejoinder...ROFL n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:22 AM
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22. Senator Reid, you are correct. Thus, both of them not only MUST ...
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 12:23 AM by understandinglife
... be impeached, they must be impeached simultaneously. Any reasonable person who doubts that their impeachment is justified has not been paying attention. Here's some stuff that should awaken even the most somnolent of the bunch:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=738841&mesg_id=738841

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=737938&mesg_id=737938

Awaken America. It won't much matter whose spying on you when you can't breath and have nothing to feed your children.


Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:08 PM
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100. Then we get Hastert.
Does anyone really want that?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:04 PM
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105. Sibel Edmonds can help us on that one. But, who we actually get will ...
... be Congressman John Conyers, if we do it correctly.


Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:46 PM
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110. That's if he's still Speaker of the House in 2007...
or any other Repulican for that matter if the Dems take over the House... The solution is to impeach both of them after the Dems retake the House.

My suspicion is that they are going to wait until after the elections are over in November. If the Dems win control of the House then, you might expect to see Cheney resign right away after that. Then they'll try to push through a replacement Rethug VP appointed by a lame duck Rethug congress that won't be impeachable in 2007, that is unless the Dems fillibuster away until the end of the year to keep him from being approved. We have to make SURE that they do in that instance. That is critical to getting control of the White House in the event of an impeachment later in 2007.

We can't afford to let these criminals go unpunished this time around. They need to be put in prison and therefore we can't afford to have someone take over that will pardon them. They've been let off the hook too many times in the past with Iran Contra and Watergate and it's now coming back to haunt us.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:27 AM
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23. From a Nevadan in Reid's district,
Harry is a tough son of a gun.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:16 AM
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26. Reid should ask Catkiller if he will continue to rule out all oversight
Just like he's been doing the last 5 years.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:04 PM
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114. Yes! Make it clear who's really not serving our democracy.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:18 AM
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27. But he doesn't rule out
there's a good chance you'll be in prison.
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:54 AM
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28. Bwahahahahaha Hahahaha.....
Harry you are the man!!!!! :applause: :applause:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:08 AM
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29. Perfect, Senator. Just perfect. Made my day! nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:10 AM
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30. LOL...good one, Harry!
:woohoo:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:22 AM
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31. Been thinking that for a while now.
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 08:24 AM by formercia
The GOP is going to wish the whole gang had been impeached. When the electorate really finds out how much damage they have done to this country, it will be a cold day in hell before they elect another Republican. Good work George, you're doing more for the Republican Party than Reconstruction did after the Civil War.

Fearless Leader is an archetype 'carpetbagger', except, instead of the South, he's doing it to the whole country.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:25 AM
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32. THAT WAS A GREAT RESPONSE
IT WAS THE RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:33 AM
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33. My sentiments exactly Harry!!!! EOM
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:37 AM
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35. most Americans would agree, half of all merikans too...
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:05 AM
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37. Snarky......
I love Harry. I may not agree with him on everything, but he is a straight shooter (unlike Cheney). :spray:
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vando Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:17 AM
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39. So we impeach Cheney first?
Actually, I'm unfamiliar with what recourse Congress has against the VP; I don't even know if he's got the same protections as the President. So it's a serious question: can we impeach Cheney?

(Of course, if we get rid of Cheney, we probably get someone just as bad--like Addington--as a replacement)

But yeah, I would love it if Reid responded to any questions about his statement with a discussion about the mechanisms that could be used to remove Cheney.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:25 AM
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41. It won't turn out good for us either way.
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 09:27 AM by Akoto
If you impeach Bush and get him out of office, then Cheney takes over. There is a Constitutional line of succession which defines who takes over, and it's based on position.

If Bush and Cheney were gone, Hastert would be called on to take over. After Hastert, we'd get Ted Stevens. After him, Condoleeza Rice. After her, John Snow. After him, Rumsfeld, and Alberto Gonzales after him.

This goes on through the whole administration, all the way to the Secretary of Veterans Affairs. As you can see, it's a long road.

Edit: It's also interesting to note that the secretaries of commerce and labor aren't in the line of succession, because they aren't natural-born citizens. It's still unlikely that we'd ever get that low on people, but one wonders what would happen if we ran out, except for them!
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:44 AM
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47. That's why a Democratic Congress is a prerequisite for impeachment
First, a Democratic majority would be necessary to get the articles through and obtain a conviction. Second, and equally important, we need a Speaker of the House who is both a Democrat and capable of being President.

Then we impeach Bush and Cheney as a two-fer, et voila!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:20 AM
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63. From your lips to God's ears
And John Conyers as Speaker of the House. Saweet.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:46 PM
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88. This is the way it should happen to have a Dem President replacement...
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 02:48 PM by calipendence
The only way possible before a Democratic Congress takes over for a Dem to take over as president were if through some quirk of events all of the following people aren't eligible (through a big bomb attack or something like that) and somehow Bush, Cheney, Hastert, Ted Stevens, Condi Rice, John Snow, Don Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, Mike Johanns, Carlos Guitierrez, Elaine Chao, Mike Leavitt, and Alphonso Jackson were all taken out at the same time. Then if Democrat Secretary of Transportation Norm Mineta somehow escaped that blood letting, he'd be sworn in as president.

That would have to be something like a "Battlestar Galactica" event.

In 2007, then impeach both Bush and Cheney, then NO PARDONS, NO MERCY! PRISON TIME!
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Unleash_the_Backlash Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:02 AM
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50. Who would Vice Cheney appoint as VP if President Bush is impeached?
If all our dreams and nightmares came true, and President Bush was impeached and convicted, would we have to wait for Cheney to commit a high crime or misdemeanor as president before he got booted, too? It probably wouldn't take more than a few days ...

But, it they have to be impeached separately, Cheney would have the opportunity to appoint a VP. There's a scary thought. Who would Cheney choose? Probably not someone as relatively benign as Gerald Ford.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:22 AM
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54. Unless I am mistaken ...
The line of succession also includes the vice president position, so (and again, I could be wrong) Hastert would take over Cheney's job if he were to become president.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:27 AM
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55. Succession doesn't apply for impeachment
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 10:28 AM by tyedyeto
The new president would be allowed to appoint with confirmation by the Senate.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:41 AM
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68. There is no constitutional rule for VP succession...
If the VP office is vacant, the President appoints someone subject to confirmation by the Senate.

If Cheney were impeached, Bush would appoint the new VP

If Bush were impeached and CHeney became PResident, CHeney would pick the VP...


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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:52 PM
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119. Actually not just the Senate...BOTH houses must confirm with a majority.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 12:54 PM
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120. Yep...you are right...
I stand corrected...thanks!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:21 AM
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65. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 06:13 PM
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102. Chertoff isn't eligible either.
Although ** tried to insert that position into the line of succession.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:43 PM
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109. After we get rid of Bush via Impeachment
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 07:50 PM by AnneD
the Neocons will be scared shitless that we DID it. Cheney would probably have a heart attack in office and Rove will be on trial and tied up. Hastert will move up and muddle through with Stevens as VP. Talk about a pair. Then comes the 2008 elections. If the DEMS don't win, we will take it to the streets. I don't think we will need to because just impeaching Bush will have the neocons running for cover. But we will still have to watch them carefully along with the DINO's.


BUT.....if we win the midterms and say gain control of the House....Hmmmm could we possibly have a Rebublican Pres and a Dem VP. A split ticket Administrative Branch...now there's a wild thought.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:19 AM
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40. Hahahahaha!
Truth hurts, doesn't it Frist? :rofl: :rofl:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:27 AM
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42. OMG! That is the PERFECT response. Succinct and to the point.
Give 'em hell, Harry.:thumbsup:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:31 AM
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43. There is a criminal in the White House & impeachment must be "ruled out"?
The mind -- it boggles.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:33 AM
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44. Ouch!
:evilgrin:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:35 AM
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45. I have a new Signature Line...Check it out
:toast:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:48 AM
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48. Harry's e-mail
Since I don't have a link to source, thought I'd post the entire text here:

Dear xxx,

I just received this email and wanted to demonstrate we are up against.

In his email below, Senator Frist proved one thing: he is George Bush's puppet, concerned more with defending an incompetent President than protecting the American people.

Just read the email below and you'll immediately know what's at stake in November. It's a choice between a Republican Congress intent on defending a consistently misleading administration that is clearly not looking out for the best interests of the American people or Democratic leadership that will end the culture of corruption and cronism that has engulfed Washington DC.

The good news is that we can take back the Senate in November. That is exactly the goal of my PAC, the Searchlight Leadership Fund. However, we simply cannot afford to wait until September or October and hope to create the momentum that will lead to victory. With your help we have to work every day to tell voters about our Democratic values and our vision for America.

Help Democrats take back the Senate by making a contribution today:

https://secure.searchlightpac.com/contribute

Let's take a look at what Bill Frist had to say:

The wiretapping of Al Qaeda terrorists by the NSA was illegal.

Well Bill, I call them like I see them.

That he, as leader of Senate Democrats, would not rule out impeaching President Bush over the wiretapping program.

Quite frankly I'd probably rule it out because the only President who could possibly be worse than George Bush would be Dick Cheney.

He would seek to filibuster the border security legislation, Secure America's Borders Act, that I introduced in the Senate last Thursday because it focused only on border security and interior enforcement.

No, Bill, I will seek to stop your bill because its enforcement-only approach to immigration will not work. Clearly the federal government must work to shut down the flow of illegal immigrants across our borders. But without the comprehensive reforms to our immigration laws, the situation on the border will continue to be chaotic, weak and ineffective, much like the other big spending programs you and President Bush have driven.

He is in favor of "fair track" amnesty for the estimated 11 million illegal aliens.

Yes, I support bipartisan, realistic and workable immigration policies that will reunite families, provide for continued economic growth, protect the rights of American workers, honor our values as a nation of immigrants and encourage those entering the United States to learn English and pay taxes.

He does not believe in improving the physical security of our borders, because with better interior enforcement of employers, illegal immigration would stop (Harry forgot about the very real possibility of drug runners and terrorists crossing our porous borders...I imagine they wouldn't be looking for jobs).

That's absurd and my colleague knows it. His ridiculous fear mongering won't work any longer - I'll fight back with the truth every time.

The fact is we need to secure our borders and I believe the best way to do that is with realistic reforms that are comprehensive and effective. We need more border patrol agents and we need to be sure they have the equipment and the technology they need to stop the illegal flow of people across our borders.

Why is Bill Frist making stuff up about me in emails? All of the signs point to this being a big election year for Democrats and Republicans are running scared. There's no accountability and no oversight. Our country is paying a heavy price and the American people know it. However, winning will not be easy. We need to fight for every vote and take back the Senate in November.

The Searchlight Leadership Fund is working everyday for Victory in November but we need your help. Even a contribution of $25 or $50 goes a long way:

https://secure.searchlightpac.com/contribute

Thank you,

Harry Reid

----------------------------Original Message----------------------------

From: "Bill Frist, M.D. (VOLPAC)"
Date: March 23, 2006 6:40:28 AM PST
To: "Harry Reid"

Subject: Frist: Harry Reid's America

Thank you Harry Reid for finally being so candid with the American people.

Yesterday in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Minority leader Reid gave away the Democrat playbook.

During the course of the interview, Harry Reid said:

The wiretapping of Al Qaeda terrorists by the NSA was illegal.

That he, as leader of Senate Democrats, would not rule out impeaching President Bush over the wiretapping program.

He would seek to filibuster the border security legislation, Secure America's Borders Act, that I introduced in the Senate last Thursday because it focused only on border security and interior enforcement.

He is in favor of "fair track" amnesty for the estimated 11 million illegal aliens.

He does not believe in improving the physical security of our borders, because with better interior enforcement of employers, illegal immigration would stop (Harry forgot about the very real possibility of drug runners and terrorists crossing our porous borders...I imagine they wouldn't be looking for jobs).

Comments like this make very clear what is at stake in November.

Republicans need to rally around the President. We need to support our Senate and House candidates. We need to volunteer on their behalf. We need to walk door to door. We need to write letters to the editor. We need to post messages on popular online bulletin boards. And we need to wake up to the reality of what a Democrat controlled Senate led by Harry Reid would mean for our country.

To read the full text of the Reid interview please click here.

I encourage you to post a comment on my blog. To do so please click here.

And after you have posted on the blog, I encourage you to use the "email this blog" option in the action items box and send my blog post to as many friends, family members and co-workers as you can. We need to spread the word.

Thank you for your time.

Bill Frist, M.D.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:19 PM
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82. Thanks for posting the whole email
Harry's response to the impeachment comment was perfect.
I also loved him saying "I'll fight back with the truth every time." I hope he keeps saying it every time he smacks them down. It's a strong and important point.

Interesting from Frist's email that Frist talks about the Democratic playbook. I think the points he is selecting out to comment on are indicative of the Republican midterm playbook and are meant to turn up the volume on some issues, particularly immigration. It looks more and more like they've been testing this one as their newest main divisive issue, one which they can twist to manipulate their base through fear to come out and vote for them. Same song, new verse.


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:59 AM
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49. ROFLMAO!!! HILARIOUS!!!
:rofl: :bounce: :rofl:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:03 AM
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51. Sweet! (and ever-so-true)..... n/t
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:03 AM
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52. Ok I don't like Reid, but I have to hand it to him. That was perfect!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:05 AM
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53. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
:rofl:


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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:28 PM
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107. Another great one Swamp Rat. You are the GREATEST. Saved it and will use
on one of my sites. i'm still stunned by Reid's throwing in the towel on Alito, Censure and the Patriot Act --- He voted for it!!!:wtf:

If Conyers would be next in the line of succession, I WILL be voting Dem after all the betrayals but how would that work. If Conyers is promoted to the majority party head of the judiciary, is he automatically the Speaker of the House or would the dino Pelosi have that position and if Conyers is going after impeachment as he pledges to do if Dems take the House of Representatives in 2006 and as the bills he has introduced (but still not supported by the majority of Dems in the House -- sign Conyers letter of solidarity - http://www.johnconyers.com Conyer's Action Items) couldn't the Repukes make hay by saying Conyers is only impeaching because he want to be Prez??
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:54 PM
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112. thanks
Here is my gallery:

http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/index.php?cat=10002

Feel free to post any to your website. Just don't link them because I am not the owner of the website hosting my pix.

Btw, I really hope Feingold and Conyers run on the same ticket. ;)

STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT!!!

SUPPORT FEINGOLD!!!

:patriot:
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:30 AM
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56. an impeachment two-fer
write up the articles of impeachment for both of them at the same time - we can even save time by having their Senate trials concurrently....at this point, I'd welcome President Dennis Hastert......
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:35 AM
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57. *lol*
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 10:50 AM
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58. Why the frig does Frist require that impeachment be ruled out?
The answer is obvious.

Hey, Bill, if Bush has nothing to hide, he's got nothing to fear, isn't that how it goes?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:07 AM
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59. Harry gets it. So funny because it's so true n/t
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:11 AM
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60. Home Run, Harry!
:kick: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:20 AM
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64. Dems charge Bush won't rule out active defense in Nuremburg II trials.
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:24 AM
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66. Great comeback...eom
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 11:33 AM
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67. This is the kind of response Dems need to be giving the Pubs...
Tip-toeing around trying desperately not to offend anyone is the strategy of losers. Thank god the Dems seem to be getting that.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:07 PM
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69. Perfectly brilliant response!
:evilgrin: :bounce:
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:09 PM
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70. GO BUDDY - give em hell - tell it the way it is - love it nt
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galatea Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:36 PM
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72. I hope he's just being funny
impeachment should not be ruled out even if we get OJ Simpson as replacement.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:50 PM
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74. Reid should have said, "We're working on impeaching both at the same time"
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:03 PM
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76. Frist? he'd sell-out his mother if he felt it furthered his career
and this jerkoff actually is entertaing thoughts to run for President? -- he hasn't Bush's crooked connections.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:05 PM
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77. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:07 PM
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78. Why not go for a two'fer?
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:07 PM
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79. Therein lies the conundrum...
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney
Bush...Cheney

It sucks no matter how you look at it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:19 PM
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83. They've given us enough rope to get rid of them both.
While this comment is funny, it's ultimately a copout. We can and should impeach them both at the same time.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:11 PM
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80. Bill Frist is also Building another Straw man! Reid will NEVER Impeach...
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 01:12 PM by Up2Late
...ANY President! Not unless he quit the Senate and got re-elected House Majority Leader!

THE SENATE NEVER CAN IMPEACH A PRESIDENT!!!!! Only the HOUSE can Impeach a President (or a Vice President), That is is an action that can ONLY be brought by the U.S. House of Representatives. The U.S. Senate investigates the Articles of Impeachment brought to them by the U.S. House of Representative! Then, If they find those articles of impeachment to have merit, after a sort of trial, they then can vote to remove the President.

Maybe we should start ridiculing the so-called Senate "Majority Leader!" It seems that he doesn't know his role, or the role of the U.S. Senate in our Governmental system!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:19 PM
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81. Brilliant, Harry!!!
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:29 PM
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84. Impeachment?
The correct answer for Reid would have been to point out that impeachment occurs in the House, not the Senate.

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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:15 PM
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85. So is this "Pre-emptive Acquittal"??
Why doesn't Frist just have the Senate pass a law that say Bush can't be impeached and call it the "Criminal Enhancement Act".

Frist is telling Bush and the American people, "we won't impeach the President, no matter what he does".

It's like a DA telling a rapist, we won't prosecute you, no matter how many girls you rape.

Republicans: Protecting criminals from prosecution. And here I though we were the party that was "soft on crime".
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:16 PM
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86. If the GOP wants to run on the save Bush's bacon platform let'em.
I say the Democrats slogan for 2006 should be "Why wait for 2008? Vote Democrat 2006!"
The GOP is really running scared if all they can come up with is a rally round Bush campaign theme. We should meet them head on and promise to remove Cheney and the chimp.
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:43 PM
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87. How about going all the way down to Conyers.
Replace Hastert with Conyers after the elections and then impeach * and dicky. Eh presto! Conyers is president.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:52 PM
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89. Now that's a GREAT quote! n.t
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:55 PM
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90. uhh you mean
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 02:56 PM by iamthebandfanman
you're telling me Mr Reid didnt know that we were kicking Dick out too ?
i mean gosh, id hope we wouldnt go to all the trouble of getting shrub outa there only to have dick take over...i was guessing that we'd take him down too, since hes just as guilty. it sucks that Sen Reid didnt imply that cheney was guilty too, cause he is.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:57 PM
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91. Bumper sticker idea: IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
I think this one might be a viable seller.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:27 PM
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93. Wait a minute. That's a "charge?"
If you want to hurt Senators these days, charge that they will rule out impeachment. Frist is confused.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:36 PM
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96. Big Applause to Harry Reid.
:thumbsup:
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:26 PM
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97. Good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I read this LoL!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:09 PM
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106. Thank you Harry!
Remember, IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST!

:)
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:35 PM
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108. When Bush picked a running mate in 2000
He got an insurance policy, by picking DeadEye Dick Cheney. Why would anyone make an attempt to assassinate or impeach, with DeadEye Dick ready to claim the throne. No gain would be achieved.
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