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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:25 PM
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"Every war plan looks good on paper..."
During yesterday's press conference, George W. Bush said "Listen, every war plan looks good on paper until you meet the enemy, not just the war plan we executed in Iraq but the war plans that have been executed throughout the history of warfare. In other words, the enemy changes tactics, and we've got to change tactics too."

Well, George, let's talk about the "war plan."

In March 2003, only days before the start of the Iraq invasion, U.S. war planners and intelligence officials met in South Carolina at the Shaw Air Force Base, for the purpose of reviewing the Administration's plan to oust Sadaam Hussein and turn Iraq into a democracy.

An army lieutenant colonel showed a slide which was supposed to describe the Pentagon's plan to rebuild Iraq after the war.

When the lieutenant colonel's slide went up on the screen, it said "To Be Provided."

Our troops were sent into combat without a plan to win the peace!

And we are seeing the results now of this Administration's "To Be Provided" attitude. The consequences have been there for everyone to see. Our troops have lived with the consequences. Their families have. And so have the Iraqi people.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9927782.htm


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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:28 PM
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1. War plan on a post-it...."Git Saddam...show Daddy" n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:29 PM
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2. Not according to Ike ...
.... "Every war plan looks good on paper..."

he hated war and saw it as a waste and warned against the military industrial complex which
now has the face of Dick Cheney.

Wars never can look good .... even on paper. Fuck that idiot chimp.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:30 PM
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3. I was stunned when he said it...
It staggers the mind that he thinks that it's okay to be mediocre.....that this country is allowing him and his staff to be mediocre and poor when it comes to our soldiers lives....Gulf coast lives....Healthcare....

The world is laughing at us.......
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:33 PM
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4. I couldn't agree with you more. Check this out...
9/2/2005

World stunned as US struggles with Katrina

By Andrew Gray 1 hour, 32 minutes ago

LONDON (Reuters) - The world has watched amazed as the planet's only superpower struggles with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with some saying the chaos has exposed flaws and deep divisions in American society.

World leaders and ordinary citizens have expressed sympathy with the people of the southern United States whose lives were devastated by the hurricane and the flooding that followed.

But many have also been shocked by the images of disorder beamed around the world -- looters roaming the debris-strewn streets and thousands of people gathered in New Orleans waiting for the authorities to provide food, water and other aid.

"Anarchy in the USA" declared Britain's best-selling newspaper The Sun.

"Apocalypse Now" headlined Germany's Handelsblatt daily.

The pictures of the catastrophe -- which has killed hundreds and possibly thousands -- have evoked memories of crises in the world's poorest nations such as last year's tsunami in Asia, which left more than 230,000 people dead or missing.

But some view the response to those disasters more favorably than the lawless aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

"I am absolutely disgusted. After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, as he watched a cricket match in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

"Not a single tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population is."

SINKING INTO ANARCHY

Many newspapers highlighted criticism of local and state authorities and of President Bush. Some compared the sputtering relief effort with the massive amounts of money and resources poured into the war in Iraq.

"A modern metropolis sinking in water and into anarchy -- it is a really cruel spectacle for a champion of security like Bush," France's left-leaning Liberation newspaper said.

"(Al Qaeda leader Osama) bin Laden, nice and dry in his hideaway, must be killing himself laughing."

A female employee at a multinational firm in South Korea said it may have been no accident the U.S. was hit.

"Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.

"A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.

Commentators noted the victims of the hurricane were overwhelmingly African Americans, too poor to flee the region as the hurricane loomed unlike some of their white neighbors.

New Orleans ranks fifth in the United States in terms of African American population and 67 percent of the city's residents are black.

"In one of the poorest states in the country, where black people earn half as much as white people, this has taken on a racial dimension," said a report in Britain's Guardian daily.

Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn, in a veiled criticism of U.S. political thought, said the disaster showed the need for a strong state that could help poor people.

"You see in this example that even in the 21st century you need the state, a good functioning state, and I hope that for all these people, these poor people, that the Americans will do their best," he told reporters at a European Union meeting in Newport, Wales.

David Fordham, 33, a hospital anesthetist speaking at a London underground rail station, said he had spent time in America and was not surprised the country had struggled to cope.

"Maybe they just thought they could sit it out and everything would be okay," he said.

"It's unbelievable though -- the TV images -- and your heart goes out to them."

(With reporting by Reuters bureaux around the world)
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:46 PM
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6. The media fed the stories about lawlessness.....
They have no shame.....

And * is too stupid to see it...
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:48 PM
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8. You're absolutely right! n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:26 AM
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12. I disagree - the world's not laughing any more
I think it's come to a point where the world realizes that this regime is dangerous. Not funny.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:37 PM
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5. Not at all
Some war plans are stupid. Usually the military can convince the politicians the plans are stupid. But when the politicians are stupid, well, "stupid is as stupid does".
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:47 PM
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7. They had a plan.
(1) Get Saddam (for Daddy and the House of Saud)
(2) Get the Oil (for "the base")
(3) Get the Bases (for PNAC)
(4) Mission accomplished.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:52 PM
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9. You forgot one...
(5) Destroy the working middle class
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:22 AM
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10. Hmm, Haiti
Clinton restored a rightfully elected President and a democracy without shedding a single drop of blood . . . ground troops landed there . . . Republicans were questioning the need to "restore democracy" at "the cost of a single soldier's life" . . .
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:24 AM
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11. Every losing side throughout history has said the same thing.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 09:26 AM
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13. I thought he didn't want to go to war
He can't keep his lies untangled in the course of even one presser. Did he truly not want to go to war, or does every war plan he's ever seen look good to him? It can't be both.
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