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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:09 PM
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Olielly rips into Helen Thomas
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188747,00.html

Well, at this point in his administration, the president would be wise to do more of that, to directly confront critics he believes are full of hot air. The president can't become obsessed with that kind of thing as Richard Nixon did, but he can show the public he feels these people are flat-out wrong.

There's no question the media in America is heavily liberal, every study shows that. And with the rise of the Internet, the far left now dominates the liberal agenda, the far left. To these Kool-Aid drinkers, no personal attack is out of bounds, no distortion too dishonest to use. They're all about the end justifying the means, destroying your political enemy if you can.

"Talking Points" believes Americans find that behavior to be disgusting. And even those who are disenchanted with President Bush want him to answer his critics in an authoritative way. He did that today and I thought it worked.

That's "The Memo."
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:12 PM
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1. Who was it that thought it was OK to attack a 15 yr old Chelsea Clinton
"no personal attack is out of bounds" - try looking into a mirror.

If it doesn't crack first.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:52 PM
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27. She was 13, BTW. nt
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:12 PM
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2. Dupe
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 05:13 PM by DBoon
Dupe
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:13 PM
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3. ROFLMAO....Helen can kick O'Lielly's ass ANY day....
He's just jealous he's not a real journalist, as opposed to a freakin' carnival barker/whore for the administration.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:13 PM
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4. fuck you asshole.
"Talking Points" believes Americans find that behavior to be disgusting. And even those who are disenchanted with President Bush want him to answer his critics in an authoritative way. He did that today and I thought it worked.

I am an american and I do find that behavior disgusting, you just have the parties mixed up. It's the republicans who have that MO. Wouldn't one have to have been, at one time, enchanted with Bush to now be disenchanted? I have never been blind, never been enchanted by this charlatan and war monger. I do not want him to be authoritative- I want him to answer truthfully, honestly, and without agenda. I want morals back in the white house, I want integrity back in my government, I want the FUCKING TRUTH.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:15 PM
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6. Second!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:14 PM
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5. Big words from a sexual deviant!
It is surreal that this man can lie constantly, and appear totally insane, and draws a fat fucking paycheck. America is soo sick.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:15 PM
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7. "Talking Points" believes Americans find that behavior to be disgusting.
*raises hand*

I don't. It's his fucking job to answer tough questions.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:15 PM
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8. Do you think the general public believes it's a 'librul' media anymore?
Reading this, I'm starting to think that most people are getting tired of this kind of rhetoric. It's old, tired and boring.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:16 PM
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9. "the media in America is heavily liberal, every study shows that"
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 05:17 PM by Iniquitous Bunny
Point to one AND cite the source and who paid for the funding. Come on. I want to see it. I CHALLENGE ANYONE!!!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:22 PM
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38. Bill never cites his sources
He always pulls them out of his ass.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:16 PM
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10. Who really cares what O'Really thinks
His ratings are tanking. He's a sexual harrasser. He is insignificant. He has no idea what being a reporter is all about unlike Helen Thomas.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:17 PM
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11. Falafel Billy is too scared to have Helen on...
She'd love to chew on him I'm sure.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:22 PM
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12. Yes please "directly confront critics" with lies
I guess Bill didn't mention the lie that Saddam threw out the UN inspectors or oh what was that other one... oh yeah "No president wants to go to war". Hell Bush's whole response was lies, lies that can be proven on record. Maybe that's where Bill(I don't smear and when I do it's taken out of context) learned it from.
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:22 PM
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13. I love the way O'Reilley refers to himself as a third-person pseudonym.
"Talking Points."

How about "Falafel Points"? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:22 PM
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14. "the media in America is heavily liberal"
everyone on FOX agrees with him, and FOX is the majority (or the most important, or most watched) of the media, how can they be liberal?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:25 PM
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15. There's no question the media in America is heavily liberal
Is O'Reilly deluded or just a liar?

(W)ith the rise of the Internet, the far left now dominates the liberal agenda, the far left. To these Kool-Aid drinkers, no personal attack is out of bounds, no distortion too dishonest to use. They're all about the end justifying the means, destroying your political enemy if you can.

Can you say "projection"?

"Talking Points" believes Americans find that behavior to be disgusting.

Yes. That explains the Frat Boy's approval ratings and O'Reilly's Nielsen ratings.

And even those who are disenchanted with President Bush want him to answer his critics in an authoritative way. He did that today and I thought it worked.

O'Reilly thinks a lot of things. Very little of what he thinks jives with reality.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:26 PM
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16. O'Liely Is SO Over....
This just shows how stupid he is -- Shrubs REASONS FOR WAR WERE BULLSHIT! And we are supposed to feel bad if somebody brings that up to him? God bless Helen Thomas!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:28 PM
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17. She is a gentle caring soul
Boy, O'Really is a tough guy. He attacks a little old lady because she dared question the Fuerher. Im impressed.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:31 PM
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18. I thought O'Reilly wasn't going to trust the * admin after no WMDs were...
...found. Didn't he say he'd apologize to the american people and never trust the admin. again?

What ever happened to his promise?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:33 PM
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20. Hey man . Hes fair and balanced..
Didnt you know that?

:)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:32 PM
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19. Helen--whack this lunitic good--PLEASE
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:39 PM
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21. "Talking Points" believes Americans"--talk for yourself Mr. O'Lielly


"Talking Points" believes Americans find that behavior to be disgusting. And even those who are disenchanted with President Bush want him to answer his critics in an authoritative way. He did that today and I thought it worked.

That's "The Memo."
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:39 PM
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22. Oh? Well, I find O'Reilly to be disgusting.
And he can shove that falafel right up....
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:41 PM
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23.  I thought it worked.
Strange, I thought jr was overly defensive and didn't answer her question directly. In fact he lied several times in his reply. If that "worked" for him I pity his sorry ass.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:42 PM
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24. "To these Kool-Aid drinkers,"--te he. His world really is upsidedown!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:45 PM
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25. "There's no question the media in America is heavily liberal"
SO liberal, in fact, that we operate our OWN worldwide channel and spew NOTHING but left-oriented propaganda . ..

Oh wait, we DON'T.

But wait again, YOU DO, you Bewsh ballsuckin' SHITEBAG!!!

And your shitty "opinionews" channel isn't the only RNC propaganda leg, fuckface.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 05:51 PM
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26. OReilly can't stand the truth.
If he gets near it, he will melt.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:01 PM
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28. Desperate attempt for ratings #12,673: "Attack a REAL journalist."
He's just DESPERATE for Helen to notice this bullshit
and is praying (ohpleeze, ohpleeze....) that she might
actually MENTION HIS NAME.

Pretty sad when your only chance at getting noticed is
by acting like dog shit on a real reporters shoe,
and hoping the SCRAPING process will attract attention!


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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:01 PM
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29. I see Mr. Tele-Sexual Assault With Vibrator Up Baboon Rump
is at it again. :eyes:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:45 PM
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34. tee hee hee
I always found O'Really ridiculous, but ever since his escapade as the Mackriss-daddy was exposed, well I see his asinine posturing-- sitting there spewing his faux righteous outrage exactly as you painted it.

What a butt munch. :rofl:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:00 PM
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36. It's so hard (giggles) to take someone serious when they
shove a vibrator up the bum and force someone to have phone sex wit dem! I guess masturbating alone at home was getting boring for Mr. O'lielly!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:10 PM
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30. "no distortion too dishonest" = The Faux Noose Mission Statement
Once again, what the right wing says others are, **they** are!!! :grr:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:11 PM
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31. I love how now WE'RE the "kool aid drinkers"
nice try, falafel.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:15 PM
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32. KO nailed O'Rielly exactly. He's a coward to the core
Sure he'll get up in an 85 year old woman's face but let him step out from behind his bodyguards provided by Fox Security and he'd run like a little girl if anyone over 6' tall gestured in his direction.

If they were to actually throw down I think I'd put my money on Helen regardless. She'd kick him in the jimmy and he'd go down for the count. Some day O'Rielly will get up in the wrong person's face and they'll do an Andy Kaufmann on him. I hope it's caught on tape.
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:38 PM
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33. The "liberal media" has been proven to be anything but...
with actual scientific studies such as the one linked to below:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447
<conclusion>
This survey shows that it is a mistake to accept the conservative claim that journalists are to the left of the public. There appear to be very few national journalists with left views on economic questions like corporate power and trade—issues that may well matter more to media owners and advertisers than social issues like gay rights and affirmative action.

The larger "liberal media" myth has been maintained, in part, by the well-funded flow of conservative rhetoric that selectively highlights journalists' personal views while downplaying news content. It also has been maintained by diverting the spotlight away from economic issues and placing it instead on social issues. In reality, though, most members of the powerful Washington press corps identify themselves as centrist in both of these areas. It is true, as conservative critics have publicized, that the minority of journalists not in the "center" are more likely to identify as having a "left" orientation when it comes to social issues. However, it is also true that the minority of journalists not in the "center" are more likely to identify as having a "right" orientation when it comes to economic issues. Indeed, these economic policy views are often to the right of public opinion. When our attention is drawn to this fact, one of the central elements of the conservative critique of the media is exposed to be merely sleight of hand.

This illusion has not been exposed here merely to replace it with an equally false mirror image of the conservative critique. Painting journalists as the core of the "conservative media" does not do justice to the complexity of the situation. Like many profit-sector professionals journalists tend to hold "liberal" social views and "conservative" economic views. Most of all, though, they can be broadly described as centrists. This adherence to the middle is consistent with news outlets that tend to repeat conventional wisdom and ignore serious alternative analyses. This too often leaves citizens with policy "debates" grounded in the shared assumptions of those in positions of power.

Which brings us back to the conservative critique. It is based on the propositions that: (1) journalists' views are to the left of the general public, and (2) that these views influence the news content that they produce. Having now exposed the first point for the myth that it is, we are left with the issue of personal views influencing news content.
<snip>
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 06:52 PM
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35. The cognitive dissonance is UNREAL.
Americans find a destroyed economy, two wars, thousands dead and job outsourcing DISGUSTING.

They find the posturing and condescending attitude of Bush DISGUSTING.

Look at the polls, Bill. Just look at the polls.

That's THE MEMO.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:02 PM
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37. I had no idea they could pile shit that high.
6'4" of horseshit.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:23 PM
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39. O'Reilly is a pussy
Biggest there ever was - I'd love to mop the floor with him :D
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 08:25 PM
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40. That's so "1984" that now my brain is bleeding
Thanks Bill.

He's doing all the things in that piece that he's railing against the other side for doing. It seems like this guy's whole shtick is to say "I'm telling you the truth" and if the listener buys that, he's home free. If they don't think to hard and just come to Mr. Truth Teller for their news, he can fill them up with any amount of propaganda.

No spin. (makes cartoon noises ...ieieieieieie) No spin? What?
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